rudeboy4711 said: I remember reading some time ago that Prince was planning on releasing "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man" as a single, however this was a latin mix. I think Boris mentioned this, not a 100% sure...
Dawrede said: ^ was released as a single in europe (edit)
I've never heard of this before. Tell me more. When? Tracklist? FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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Man, only 870 views. The previous version of the list had 5000 peeps at Housequake. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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scififilmnerd said: Man, only 870 views. The previous version of the list had 5000 peeps at Housequake.
Give it time, it'll get there . Anyway, didn't Prince say back in 1976 in his high school newspaper that he and his band (Champagne?) were going to release an album that summer? | |
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scififilmnerd said: Man, only 870 views. The previous version of the list had 5000 peeps at Housequake.
Seems to be an Org phenomenon... Over 4,500 people have viewed the 'Why does this generation of girls not find Prince sexy?' thread, so go figure! Formally known as Mr_Nos on Housequake
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scififilmnerd said: Man, only 870 views. The previous version of the list had 5000 peeps at Housequake.
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rudeboy4711 said: Anyway, didn't Prince say back in 1976 in his high school newspaper that he and his band (Champagne?) were going to release an album that summer?
Yes. They went into the studio... Grand Central Corporation, ASI, Minneapolis, early 1976 39th St. Party (André Cymone) Lady Pleasure Machine – possibly identical with Sex Machine You’re Such A Fox Grand Central Whenever Champagne, Moonsound, Minneapolis, spring 1976 (No known titles) ...but no album figuration was made that we know of. I mean, one would think that each of them at least got a cassette tape with the recorded songs, right? [Edited 9/29/09 5:56am] FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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Nosferatu said: Seems to be an Org phenomenon... Over 4,500 people have viewed the 'Why does this generation of girls not find Prince sexy?' thread, so go figure!
Maybe it is mostly women who come to the org? Maybe this delving into the music is mostly a guy thing and Housequake was a boys' club? FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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manray10 said: If this were a book, the sales would be out of this world
Thank you. This kinda IS a book. It is the first of two appendixes to my Ultimate book chapters/articles threads. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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In this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/312081, sandwiched between The Hookers project and Home Studio recordings, this is mentioned:
Unnamed project, home studio, 1981 See U Dead Heart Attack Kiss Me Quick Strange Way Of Saying I Love You (2:09) Gym Class I thought these were supposed to be more recordings from The Hookers/Vanity 6... but an unnamed project? Thats interesting... Also, wasn't The Second Coming album/movie based on the March 7th 1982 show in Boston but focusing more on the Dirty Mind/Controversy material? Man, I find Prince's pre-Purple Rain recording era the most interesting, too bad not much is known about this era as much as we know about the 86-89 and 92-95 eras. C'mon Prince throw us a freakin' bone! [Edited 9/29/09 9:25am] | |
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scififilmnerd said: rudeboy4711 said: I remember reading some time ago that Prince was planning on releasing "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man" as a single, however this was a latin mix. I think Boris mentioned this, not a 100% sure...
Dawrede said: ^ was released as a single in europe (edit)
I've never heard of this before. Tell me more. When? Tracklist? I think he must be getting his wires crossed. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man was released as a single in Europe, just like it was in the US. But the Shep Pettibone 'latin' mix wasn't included, and has never been officially released. There was quitea lot of remixes and extended versions made for several songs off Sign O' The Times. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker, Strange Relationship, Adore and The Cross were all being considered for single releases. | |
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scififilmnerd said: Nosferatu said: Seems to be an Org phenomenon... Over 4,500 people have viewed the 'Why does this generation of girls not find Prince sexy?' thread, so go figure!
Maybe it is mostly women who come to the org? Maybe this delving into the music is mostly a guy thing and Housequake was a boys' club? Whatever the reason, I know I vastly prefer threads like these! Thanks for putting them together! | |
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rudeboy4711 said: wasn't The Second Coming album/movie based on the March 7th 1982 show in Boston but focusing more on the Dirty Mind/Controversy material?
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rudeboy4711 said: In this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/312081,
I'm gonna publish an update of that list any day now. The 1993-1996 entries will be thoroughly revised based on my discoveries during my work on the Ultimate threads. So stay tuned for that. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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scififilmnerd said: rudeboy4711 said: wasn't The Second Coming album/movie based on the March 7th 1982 show in Boston but focusing more on the Dirty Mind/Controversy material?
I don't know. I remember reading on that Uptown article in HQ about The Second Coming, that Prince hired Chuck Statler to film that particular concert and parts from other shows. Also, if you listen to the soundboard recording from the March 7th show, it goes from "When You Were Mine" to "Head" skipping "IWBYL" implying that they wanted to focus more on the newer material. It's possible that this was the inteded "configuration" for the movie/album. [Edited 9/29/09 16:33pm] | |
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rudeboy4711 said: scififilmnerd said: I don't know. I remember reading on that Uptown article in HQ about The Second Coming, that Prince hired Chuck Statler to film that particular concert and parts from other shows. Also, if you listen to the soundboard recording from the March 7th show, it goes from "When You Were Mine" to "Head" skipping "IWBYL" implying that they wanted to focus more on the newer material. It's possible that this was the inteded "configuration" for the movie/album. [Edited 9/29/09 16:33pm] From "The Second Coming" Uptown #24 9 December 1981: Houston, The Summit
The Houston concert at the 16,000-seat Summit was fantastic, with a lot of audience interaction throughout. Since the early shows of the tour, Prince had replaced “Sexuality” with “Uptown” as the opening song of the set, while “Jack U Off” was played as an encore instead of early in the set. The Houston concert included a rare performance of “Private Joy” as an encore. The fast, breezy tune worked very well and should have been played more often. Prince closed “Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?” unusually as he played a portion of “Jingle Bells” during the guitar finale. “Are there any ladies in the house?” Prince asked before launching into “I Wanna Be Your Lover.” “Will you help me sing this song? I said, will you help me sing this song? Alright, put your hands together, c’mon.” “Head” was definitely one of the highpoints of the set, featuring a lot of guitar improvisations by Prince. “Dirty Mind” was very long and had a lot of audience participation. Prince got them to repeat the “Oh, alright” chant over and over. As usual, “Do Me, Baby” excited the audience as Prince began his “striptease,” “Well, you’re leaving me no choice. What’re you looking at? Are you just gonna sit there and watch? Alright... Don’t you wanna close your eyes? Please baby, close your eyes. How far do you want me to go? All the way?!” After playing “Let’s Work,” the first encore, Prince said, “Well? Thank you, good night! Don’t you’all want to go home? Good, neither do we.” Next was “Private Joy,” which ended somewhat chaotically as Prince abruptly stopped the song in the middle of a guitar solo by Dez Dickerson, “Hold it! Hold it! Alright, stop the music! That song ain’t fast enough. We gotta play some fast, we gotta rock this joint, right? You want something fast?” He signalled to Bobby Z. to start the drum beat to “Jack U Off,” before saying, “If you know the words, sing along. I know you’re nasty, c’mon, 1-2-3-4...” The Houston concert was filmed for a planned documentary, tentatively called The Second Coming. Several concerts on the tour were filmed by rock video pioneer Chuck Statler, who had worked with Devo and Elvis Costello. His Minneapolisbased Location Services filmed Prince in concert and off-stage, but unfortunately the resulting documentary was never released. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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rudeboy4711 said: In this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/312081, sandwiched between The Hookers project and Home Studio recordings, this is mentioned:
Unnamed project, home studio, 1981 See U Dead Heart Attack Kiss Me Quick Strange Way Of Saying I Love You (2:09) Gym Class I thought these were supposed to be more recordings from The Hookers/Vanity 6... but an unnamed project? Thats interesting... Also, wasn't The Second Coming album/movie based on the March 7th 1982 show in Boston but focusing more on the Dirty Mind/Controversy material? Man, I find Prince's pre-Purple Rain recording era the most interesting, too bad not much is known about this era as much as we know about the 86-89 and 92-95 eras. C'mon Prince throw us a freakin' bone! [Edited 9/29/09 9:25am] From "Wet Dreams" Uptown #24 Sexual stereotypes After a few warm-up concerts, including one at The Ritz in New York, Vanity 6 joined Prince and The Time on the 1999 tour, which began in November 1982. The Time were employed as the girls’ backing musicians, playing behind a pink scrim. Jill Jones was added to the live line-up of the group, supplying backing vocals. Vanity 6’s twenty-minute opening set usually went down well with the audiences, even though the girls received their fair share of cat calls and vocal abuse. Even if the album reviews had been encouraging, the critics were merciless in their evaluation of their show, complaining about their weak vocals and stiff movements. Obviously, the focus in the live show was less on their songs than on their performance or clothes, and it was hard for the girls to get any messages across or to be taken seriously. In great contrast to The Time, who really came alive when they hit the stage, Vanity 6 did not have enough stage presence to make it as a successful live act. After the second leg of the 1999 tour, which ended in April 1983, Prince began work on a second album with the group. Songs recorded for the album included “Vibrator,” “Sex Shooter,” and “Promise To Be True.” At different times, songs like “G-Spot” and “17 Days” were also intended for the group’s second album. However, the album and the entire Vanity 6 project had to be shelved when Vanity left Prince’s camp in the summer of 1983 for a solo career. The group was re-created by enlisting a young actress, Patricia Kotero, as Vanity’s replacement. Brenda, Susan, and Patricia as Apollonia, made an album as Apollonia 6, but Prince’s heart was no longer in the project and it slowly faded away. Prince later received criticism for his involvement with Vanity 6 and the alleged exploitation of sex inherent in their lyrics and scant clothing. Contrary to much of the criticism, it is quite obvious that Prince wanted to shatter sexual stereotypes by showing that women can be sexual and seductive while still exercising control. In their songs, the Vanity 6 girls combined an unabashed sexuality with a gutsy female independence, much in the same way as Madonna and a whole tidal wave of strong, independent female artists who came later have been able to do. Of course, the irony was that the Vanity 6 girls were merely acting out roles in a concept dreamt up by Prince; they were anything but independent or in control. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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This is such interesting reading, thanks for your efforts and time on this.
I cannot believe a multiple live album was offered to WB and they turned it down - damn them. Id love to hear that. There are so many of these album configurations id love to hear - particularly Heart, the acoustic album. I wonder if this eventually became The Truth? How could Prince want to make such a statement at the time about being stiffled creatively - not being able to put what music he wanted out then, and then years later when he has more control of this, he choses not to put any of it out?!? Maybe he feels now is no longer the time for it. Anyway, id love to one day hear more from this highly prolific mid 90s era. Emancipation was a let down to me - more so in seeing the kind of projects he was working on before this. | |
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CrozzaUK said: I cannot believe a multiple live album was offered to WB and they turned it down - damn them. Id love to hear that.
Me, too. CrozzaUK said: There are so many of these album configurations id love to hear - particularly Heart, the acoustic album. I wonder if this eventually became The Truth?
I think that's possible. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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I've updated the list with the information Borisfishpaw gave on the Ultimate Come thread about the Come and Loose! singles. [Edited 10/1/09 11:06am] FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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scififilmnerd said: rudeboy4711 said: In this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/312081,
I'm gonna publish an update of that list any day now. The 1993-1996 entries will be thoroughly revised based on my discoveries during my work on the Ultimate threads. So stay tuned for that. Here it is: http://prince.org/msg/7/320445 Enjoy. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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thank you so much for taking the time to put these threads together, definitely great to read! * * *
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sms130 said: Was there ever a early configuration of Purple Rain prior 2 the November 7, 1983 version that may have contain Let's Go Crazy, Electric Intercourse, Computer Blues,Wednesday, and G-Spot?
That is doubtful, considering that Per Nielsen talked with a lot of people for his D.M.S.R. book and none of them mentioned such a thing. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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BorisFishpaw said: scififilmnerd said: I've never heard of this before. Tell me more. When? Tracklist? I think he must be getting his wires crossed. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man was released as a single in Europe, just like it was in the US. But the Shep Pettibone 'latin' mix wasn't included, and has never been officially released. There was quitea lot of remixes and extended versions made for several songs off Sign O' The Times. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker, Strange Relationship, Adore and The Cross were all being considered for single releases. I would love to hear these. Hopefully Prince gets off his butt and allows some nice deluxe reissues one of these years, including some of this material. I do remember at the time hearing a blurb on MTV news - I think it was the show "Now Hear This" where they focused on new and upcoming videos - that "Strange Relationship" was slated to be the next single from SOTT. I'm not sure where in the chronology of singles that took place... but obviously they changed their mind. * * *
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scififilmnerd said: sms130 said: Was there ever a early configuration of Purple Rain prior 2 the November 7, 1983 version that may have contain Let's Go Crazy, Electric Intercourse, Computer Blues,Wednesday, and G-Spot?
That is doubtful, considering that Per Nielsen talked with a lot of people for his D.M.S.R. book and none of them mentioned such a thing. OK, I remember reading the original script 2 'Purple Rain' a while back and I remember 'G-Spot' was set 2 b the "shock" song. That was the song that was gonna upset Apollonia in the film until it was later replaced with 'Darling Nikki'. Plus, I've heard that it was performed on the film but, it was later cut from it. | |
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I've added the Dance 4 Me single to the list, now that it obviously ain't coming out. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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