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PrintableI think a lot of people here are mistaking "fantastic songs" with "hit records". The two are not necessarily the same thing. & most of the songs listed so far would not have been hits, even if he was shooting for the major label distribution.
Especially when people are slating "Umbrella" as crap. Crap it may be, but an expertly crafted hit record it certainly is! (...Also, it is quite often the record company that select the single releases, based on relevant factors. They also do the marketing. So there is a good chance Prince had little input in those areas). (D') | |
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dance4me3121 said: What are some songs that prince may or may not have released as singles that werent hits but shouldve been? GUITAR-is a fine example of a hit song,and its very catchy. I wonder y it didnt become a hit. If crap like Rihana's unbrella song and Beyonce's single ladies became hits then y not Guitar or even Black sweat?
you know it's really interesting to see how people want to call all this music we have today as crap yet it sells more than all of princes new records put together  it's not the 80s any more the musical atmosphere has changed drastically it may be considered crap to others but to the mainstream world these days it's what sells now a days beyonce and rihanna are big hit artists today while prince mostly caters do the older generation(30 and over mostly or just those who grew up with his music) just my two cents on that | |
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djenerate said: I think a lot of people here are mistaking "fantastic songs" with "hit records". The two are not necessarily the same thing. & most of the songs listed so far would not have been hits, even if he was shooting for the major label distribution.
Especially when people are slating "Umbrella" as crap. Crap it may be, but an expertly crafted hit record it certainly is! (...Also, it is quite often the record company that select the single releases, based on relevant factors. They also do the marketing. So there is a good chance Prince had little input in those areas). (D') So who's responsible for the singles released when he wasn't on a major label?I think he had some input on most of his releases, even when he was on a major.I'm not blaming this on some neckties and leaving him blameless.nope,not gonna do it. | |
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Sometimes It Snows in April
Could still be a no1 im sure everyone who went to 21 nights would agree they wanted to hear it!!!! | |
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SavonOsco said: djenerate said: I think a lot of people here are mistaking "fantastic songs" with "hit records". The two are not necessarily the same thing. & most of the songs listed so far would not have been hits, even if he was shooting for the major label distribution.
Especially when people are slating "Umbrella" as crap. Crap it may be, but an expertly crafted hit record it certainly is! (...Also, it is quite often the record company that select the single releases, based on relevant factors. They also do the marketing. So there is a good chance Prince had little input in those areas). (D') So who's responsible for the singles released when he wasn't on a major label?I think he had some input on most of his releases, even when he was on a major.I'm not blaming this on some neckties and leaving him blameless.nope,not gonna do it. I'm not suggesting that you do, at all. But some of the comments on here seem to put the burden of responsibility of every label department on the artists shoulders, when there are many decisions made by many people. & I don't doubt that Prince (especially when he began shifting serious units) was able to demand some degree of control over his output. But the bottom line is, they are the ones who sign the cheques, & will ultimately have the final say. (which is clearly the case or he never would have had dispute with them in the first place). But hit songs are like champion horses, they aren't necessarily the prettiest or the best mannered, but the win the race. They are a separate science from the broader art of songwriting, & right or wrong they (mostly) work to a particular formula. The songs that have been listed so far are, for the most part, the better songs from his catalogue, but few would work as singles. They do, however, stand the test of time better in some cases than the songs which were picked (for good reason) as singles at the time. - When he wasn't on a major label... which albums/singles are you referring to?? (D') | |
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SavonOsco said: Huggiebear said: I don't even want to start, there are so many songs on his latest 4 albums that should have ANNIHILATED the charts. Best example was Black Sweat that song had number 1 platinum hit written all over it. Where did it get? About number 50 are you kidding me?
Others of late Dance 4 Me (This should have blown up by now) Crimson and Clover Dreamer (Great adult rock here) Guitar (Like someone said, well written and catchy) Chelsea Jones (Also catchy and has real singing) I think his songs flop, because he can't compare with all the shit hop about hos and Escalades and near naked 18 year old girls miming to 80s pop samples. I was in agreement with everything you said..until the uncalled for jab at hip-hop.Hip-Hop had nothing to do with this one. Sorry but you know how I feel about modern hip hop, its a latter day minstrel show. These songs sell well whilst Black Sweat and the One u wanna c founder. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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In This Bed I Scream could have been an amazing comeback single with the right promotion - you know, billed as a wildly energetic song, featuring a classic Prince falsetto, Wendy & Lisa references, and a nasty guitar workout. But no, he put out Betcha and fucked it all up. Surprise... PIPS! Eurgh... |
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PurpleDiamond2009 said: dance4me3121 said: What are some songs that prince may or may not have released as singles that werent hits but shouldve been? GUITAR-is a fine example of a hit song,and its very catchy. I wonder y it didnt become a hit. If crap like Rihana's unbrella song and Beyonce's single ladies became hits then y not Guitar or even Black sweat?
you know it's really interesting to see how people want to call all this music we have today as crap yet it sells more than all of princes new records put together it's not the 80s any more the musical atmosphere has changed drastically it may be considered crap to others but to the mainstream world these days it's what sells now a days beyonce and rihanna are big hit artists today while prince mostly caters do the older generation(30 and over mostly or just those who grew up with his music) just my two cents on thatThe reason the "crap" sells more is very simple...MAJOR RECORD LABEL | |
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fishwillbite said: In This Bed I Scream could have been an amazing comeback single with the right promotion - you know, billed as a wildly energetic song, featuring a classic Prince falsetto, Wendy & Lisa references, and a nasty guitar workout. But no, he put out Betcha and fucked it all up. Surprise...
I totally disagree with that. I think ITBIS is a weak single for sure. Emancipation had a lot of potential hits, but this was not one. My choices from that album would have been: Sleep Around Jam of the Year Damned If I Do **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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The Gold Experience should have had way more hit singles. Endorphinmachine comes to mind... | |
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b88ne said: The Gold Experience should have had way more hit singles. Endorphinmachine comes to mind...
Billy Jack Bitch, Now, Shhh, and P Control all had potential to be hits. P Control got a LOT of club play. I know so many cowboys and rednecks that LOVE that song. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: It amazes me how many songs you guys are saying weren't hits. To me, a hit is not necessarily what was released as a single. Prince's career has a steady stream of "hits" that weren't all singles. Songs like "Do Me, Baby", "International Lover", "Lady Cab driver", "DMSR", "Adore", "Housequake" etc. were all album cuts that were radio hits.
Exactly!
Some of the songs you guys are saying that weren't hits, really were (in one form or another). Pop Life: Pop Life Dance Music/Club Play Singles 5 Pop Life Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 1 Pop Life Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 8 Pop Life The Billboard Hot 100 7 Anotherloverholenyohead Dance Music/Club Play Singles 21 Anotherloverholenyohead Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 10 Anotherloverholenyohead Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 18 Scandalous Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 19 Scandalous Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 5 Gett Off Dance Music/Club Play Singles 1 Gett Off Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 1 Gett Off Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 6 Gett Off The Billboard Hot 100 21 Pink Cashmere Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 14 Pink Cashmere Rhythmic Top 40 18 Pink Cashmere The Billboard Hot 100 50 Pink Cashmere Top 40 Mainstream 30 The Morning Papers Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 68 The Morning Papers The Billboard Hot 100 44 The Morning Papers Top 40 Mainstream 18 Letitgo Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 22 Letitgo Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 10 Letitgo Rhythmic Top 40 13 Letitgo The Billboard Hot 100 31 Letitgo Top 40 Mainstream 17 The Greatest Romance Ever Sold Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 6 The Greatest Romance Ever Sold Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 23 The Greatest Romance Ever Sold The Billboard Hot 100 63 Actually album cuts that were played on radio is better. Because the consumer had to go buy the whole album to hear it. Versus buy a single....In the eighties Prince had a lot of album cut hits that were played on radio  will ALWAYS think of  like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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saafiir said: List of songs which were not realesed as singles... but could have been hits !
In chronological order: "Head" "The Beautiful Ones" "Sometimes It Snows in April" "The Cross" "When 2 R In Love" "Love Machine" "3 Chains o' Gold" "Race" "Shhh" "Billy Jack Bitch" "Acknowledge Me" "Chaos and Disorder" "I Rock, Therefore I Am" "Right Back Here In My Arms" "White Mansion" "Sex In the Summer" "La, La, La Means I Love U" "Wasted Kisses" "5 Women" "Baby Knows" "A Million Days" "Reflection" "The Dance" "Somewhere Here on Earth"  Sho' Nuff!!! |
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Strange Relationship. | |
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daPrettyman said: Huggiebear said: I don't even want to start, there are so many songs on his latest 4 albums that should have ANNIHILATED the charts. Best example was Black Sweat that song had number 1 platinum hit written all over it. Where did it get? About number 50 are you kidding me?
Others of late Dance 4 Me (This should have blown up by now) Crimson and Clover Dreamer (Great adult rock here) Guitar (Like someone said, well written and catchy) Chelsea Jones (Also catchy and has real singing) I think his songs flop, because he can't compare with all the shit hop about hos and Escalades and near naked 18 year old girls miming to 80s pop samples. 
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saafiir said: "3 Chains o' Gold"
oh hell no! [Edited 9/27/09 23:03pm] Has anyone tried unplugging the United States and plugging it back in? | |
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Deadflow3r said: Mars23 said: A good portion of The Gold Experience.
I guess one of the tracks was a hit, but that was prior to the album. Endorphin Machine missed the boat. I completely agree. This album went unnoticed by those who were not already Prince fans or who had lost interest not long after Purple Rain. Deffinately Dolphin and Shy should have gotten airplay. They both are catchy enough to appeal to a larger crowd than Prince diehards. A hit has to be a bit like a Katie Perry song, catchy and a bit of a jingle in the sense that you find yourself singing it afterwards. in england the bookies take bets on what will be the number 1 record at christmas,i knew that gold had been released as a single so i put a bet on as i thought it wasa class above the other crap that was around.it got quite a lot of airplay ,as you know i lost my bet,i always thought gold was a far superior song to most beautifull girl which indeed made the number one slot. | |
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b88ne said: The Gold Experience should have had way more hit singles. Endorphinmachine comes to mind...
If Warner would have gotten behind Gold Experience, it would have been HUGE! | |
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Soft And Wet should have been bigger and it would've if it wasn't for that first verse.
Sexy Dancer if it was released as a single in the USA. Would've also been better if the long version was the album version. I Feel For You could have been a hit. Why this wasn't a single intead of WYWTMSB and Still Waiting, I'll never know. Uptown should have been bigger When You Were Mine should have been a single. Private Joy could have been a single Do Me, Baby could have been bigger if it was a real retail single instead of just a radio promo single DMSR and Lady Cab Driver could have been hits if Prince didn't become so damn obsessed with white people, after little red corvette hit. | |
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