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Thread started 10/04/09 11:20pm

Mouse

Fake Black Album

When I was 15 I bought The Black Album on vinyl - as far as I can remember it was my first ever bootleg. I dug it then & still do. Seven years later I was working for the summer in Saskatoon and found a record shop with an extensive bootleg collection and staff who were willing, for a fee, to tape any of their vinyl bootlegs. I paid whatever it was - $10 or something - for a tape copy of The Black Album, hurried back to my apartment, & threw it on. I was astonished to hear something that sounded like Le Grind, only less funky and layered. When the vocals came on I realized instantly that it wasn't Prince at all, only a very accomplished copy. I have no idea why anybody would bother to do this and would be interested to know if anybody else has heard this watered-down, non-Prince version and if anybody has any information about who was behind it and/or what the point was.
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Reply #1 posted 10/04/09 11:22pm

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I'm sorry you got ripped off.
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Reply #2 posted 10/04/09 11:26pm

zaza

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Wasn't it Metallica? biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 10/04/09 11:27pm

Mouse

It was a bit of a drag, & ten bucks down the drain, but it's always mystified me. Plus I wonder how many people thought they were hearing the real Black Album & were listening to this crappy rip-off instead?

I ended up listening to Neil Diamond for most of the summer. Forever in blue jeans, indeed.
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Reply #4 posted 10/04/09 11:32pm

zaza

Mouse said:

It was a bit of a drag, & ten bucks down the drain, but it's always mystified me. Plus I wonder how many people thought they were hearing the real Black Album & were listening to this crappy rip-off instead?

I ended up listening to Neil Diamond for most of the summer. Forever in blue jeans, indeed.

Yeah, but I guess many people would notice the fact it sounds different, just like you wink Be glad it was just 10$..
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Reply #5 posted 10/04/09 11:33pm

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Mouse said:

It was a bit of a drag, & ten bucks down the drain, but it's always mystified me. Plus I wonder how many people thought they were hearing the real Black Album & were listening to this crappy rip-off instead?

I ended up listening to Neil Diamond for most of the summer. Forever in blue jeans, indeed.



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Reply #6 posted 10/04/09 11:38pm

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Wow, I bought this bootleg myself (I live in Vancouver). I'd never heard the black album before and I had the same sort of reaction. When it came on I was immediately perplexed and disappointed. The music seemed fine, but the voicing was all wrong. I went back to the record store (a great import place) and said that this bootleg...was a bootleg. I said that the voice wasn't Prince. The guy looked at me as said "yeah isn't it, whatcamacallit, Camille or something"

I listened the heck out of that bootleg, when I finally found the real black album I at least knew all the songs.
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Reply #7 posted 10/04/09 11:41pm

Mouse

Where in Vancouver?
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Reply #8 posted 10/04/09 11:43pm

trickster

i bought the vinyl version of that fake black album more then 10 years ago - for 50 € lol i thought i was the winner! it was still sealed and i opend it just 3 years ago and realized what i bought in the moment i put it on my recordplayer!

since than i wonder witch band is playin on the record!
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Reply #9 posted 10/04/09 11:45pm

zaza

trickster said:

i bought the vinyl version of that fake black album more then 10 years ago - for 50 € lol i thought i was the winner! it was still sealed and i opend it just 3 years ago and realized what i bought in the moment i put it on my recordplayer!

since than i wonder witch band is playin on the record!

...metallica...? biggrin Imagine James Hetfield singing Cindy C.! biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 10/04/09 11:59pm

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I think the band that played on that "Black Album tribute" was German, other than that, I don't know if there's ever been any more info regarding the players. I bought the fake CD at a record store a little after the real deal was shelved. The store put a handwritten sticker on it saying it was "some German group playing the Black Album note for note". The music isn't bad, but it's a little Casio-heavy. The vox are certainly not passable for Prince. lol It was at the time, the only CD version of The Black Album I had.
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/09 12:07am

Mouse

The German connection: interesting. I suspected there might be a Milli Vanilli link in there somewhere.

Also interesting: that it was marketed as a fake Black Album.

That album's history sure is twisted & weird. Mebbe the weirdest & twistiest in Prince's career?
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Reply #12 posted 10/05/09 4:39am

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Looks fake to me
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/09 4:45am

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Yes, it was a german band, a friend gave it to me back then, for the fun.
They even gave you a sticker inside saying : I own the black album !
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/09 4:53am

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PANDURITO said:


Looks fake to me

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Reply #15 posted 10/05/09 6:05am

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Mouse said:

It was a bit of a drag, & ten bucks down the drain, but it's always mystified me. Plus I wonder how many people thought they were hearing the real Black Album & were listening to this crappy rip-off instead?

I ended up listening to Neil Diamond for most of the summer. Forever in blue jeans, indeed.


You had me worried there for a while. But my cd is the real thing. Bar code and egistration no. from Germany. Sticker on the front "The legendary black album limited edition." There is no booklet though just a black piece of paper eek The tracklist seems to be the same and I'm sure it's Prince, I recognise the voice. I don't know why this cd hasn't moved me yet? It should have? There are parts of songs that I like, but that's all. sad
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/09 11:45am

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PANDURITO said:


Looks fake to me


You're a riot. lol
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/09 11:49am

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Bohemian67 said:

Mouse said:

It was a bit of a drag, & ten bucks down the drain, but it's always mystified me. Plus I wonder how many people thought they were hearing the real Black Album & were listening to this crappy rip-off instead?

I ended up listening to Neil Diamond for most of the summer. Forever in blue jeans, indeed.


You had me worried there for a while. But my cd is the real thing. Bar code and egistration no. from Germany. Sticker on the front "The legendary black album limited edition." There is no booklet though just a black piece of paper eek The tracklist seems to be the same and I'm sure it's Prince, I recognise the voice. I don't know why this cd hasn't moved me yet? It should have? There are parts of songs that I like, but that's all. sad


This cover band Black Album was released around the time the real BA was pulled (probably 1988). Your Prince copy, as is most of ours, was released in 1994.
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Reply #18 posted 10/05/09 12:55pm

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SO did anyone get used to the cover band version of Black ALbum (which is a brilliant dissection of those songs into midi sounding arrangements) and like it better than the real one?

For the record I don't like it better at all, but I admire it for picking apart all those instrument lines and patterns.
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Reply #19 posted 10/05/09 1:20pm

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ufoclub said:

SO did anyone get used to the cover band version of Black ALbum (which is a brilliant dissection of those songs into midi sounding arrangements) and like it better than the real one?

For the record I don't like it better at all, but I admire it for picking apart all those instrument lines and patterns.



Listen to it once or twice then shelved it...still got a sticker ! Lucky me !!
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Reply #20 posted 10/05/09 4:47pm

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yankem said:

ufoclub said:

SO did anyone get used to the cover band version of Black ALbum (which is a brilliant dissection of those songs into midi sounding arrangements) and like it better than the real one?

For the record I don't like it better at all, but I admire it for picking apart all those instrument lines and patterns.



Listen to it once or twice then shelved it...still got a sticker ! Lucky me !!


I didn't get the sticker with my CD. I think someone at the store bogarted it.
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/09 5:02pm

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squirrelgrease said:

yankem said:




Listen to it once or twice then shelved it...still got a sticker ! Lucky me !!


I didn't get the sticker with my CD. I think someone at the store bogarted it.


lol
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A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #22 posted 10/05/09 9:13pm

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Where in Vancouver?


I bought this at the late Track Records on Granville Street. I currently live in Richmond but work downtown though. Do you live in Vancouver?
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Reply #23 posted 10/05/09 11:46pm

Mouse

No, but I'm from the Okanagan & have been to Vancouver countless times; in fact it was there that I bought my first, authentic Black Album bootleg, possibly at Track, though it might have been Odyssey now that I think about it.
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