As we are all aware, Prince has a very loyal hard core fan base. We buy everything we can afford. The clips on LotusFlowe3r are cool but why can't Prince release the full concerts???

I was in HMV looking through the music DVD section, the usual Prince ones - Purple Rain and One Night Alone - were there but thats all!!! He's THE best live performer and its impossible to legally get new concert dvd's! The Pussycat Dolls have more dvds out for their fans to buy!!!

Can we, as lovers of his music and performances, somehow get together to show Prince and his 'people' how much a new live DVD would mean to his fans? Not to mention how much $$$ he could make...

Imagine the O2 concerts on Blueray? Or the 7/Come Together clip in surround sound??? Come on Prince, its already recorded, let me give you some $$$ for these gems...

He knows this. He is an absolute enigma as far as his releases are concerned. Every few days I seem to read about re-issues and digital remasters, (U2, Beatles, Bowie, Madonna etc) and I am still positively salivating over the dream that one day Prince and Warner Bros records come to some similar arrangement. Very frustrating. Most of us basically guarantee that we would just throw our money at these things.

Good question. "I wonder u" should be "I wonder y"

maybe he won't releses dvd's becuz Rave 2000 and the Las Vegas dvd's sold poorly?

that's only a guess.

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thedance said:

Possibly true but I would guess most music DVD's appeal to quite a niche market (most often the fans of that particular artist), but for a concert series like Musicology tour or the 21 Nights in London which were seen by thousands and well publicised, a timely release would have surely sold lots of copies to casual and hardcore fans alike?

KeithyT said:

Yep. The 21 Nights in London shows were huge here and a DVD would have probably sold loads across Europe.

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vivid said:

His Marketing team probably thought they should see how the 21nights disc sold before releasing any thing else.....

I think he's got some weird idea that a musical performance is best kept as a memory.

JOYJOY said:

But then that disc was a poor reflection on what the O2 tour was, it was way better than that 1 disc.

It is sad that he doesn't because he records every live performance, and he could make so much money from dvd sales. I read somewhere that he feels that if he "overexposes" himself, then his "brand" won't be as valuable.

"he feels that if he "overexposes" himself, then his "brand" won't be as valuable."

ha, that's funny becuz it's what WB were telling him 15 years ago!!!


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True, and apparently he believes his own hype now.

lotusflw3r said:

HA! Thats is awesome! Im glad you pointed that out!

rayfarrell said:

I cant even get the One night alone dvd here in OZ -

Many years ago a huge debate broke out here in regards to Prince releasing his own boots and this topic came up. From my understanding one reason why is the pressing and distribution would cost more than the profit made from the release.

The Record company was making the money from these concert performance releases and the only reason why SOTT the movie was released was because SOTT the album was sagging in sales. Prince decided not to come to the USA so the whole movie concept was done for that purpose. Prince pulled the plug on the whole thing and did the Black Album/Lovesexy concept.Which fucked the whole thing up even worse. I always wondered what if SOTT the movie would have been released in the Summer of 87 instead of late fall 1987.

Another mystery was why Prince did not let HBO/Showtime film the Musicology tour.One of my lasting memories was showing up at the GEC in Nashville and seeing Prince driving a golf cart with the heads of HBO and Showtime on the back begging for the show.

I really wish an insider from either camp could come in and clear this up.

muleFunk said:

Bullcrap. To this day bootleggers continue to release discs, despite them often being available online mere hours after they become available. Are you really gonna claim Prince can't beat that?

muleFunk said:

Again: bullcrap. SOTT movie = because Prince blew off US tour. WB had NOTHING to do with SOTT movie.

muleFunk said:

Sigh... So pressing limited edition discs is financially not viable, but time-travel is? You might wanna find out when he taped that movie, and when he first got the idea for it. And then you might wanna figure out how long it takes to edit a movie, print copies and get it distributed.

Fuck you Bartman.

I told you what the scuttlebutt and low level insider rumors were floating around at that time and not gospel truths.

muleFunk said:

So instead of figuring out what actually happened (which has been extensively documented), you happily repeated bullcrap that some lame-ass fans said at the time? Why? Why repeated long debunked nonsense? Why not STICK TO THE FACTS? Why not think for yourself?

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OK I'll do that next time but since you KNOW the Full truth and not what was repeated from UPTOWN and Hahn tell it to me and stop trying to diss me and attack personally.

lotusflw3r said:

Yeah if avoiding "overexposing" is the reason, then Prince is really strange....

He wanted to be a "Free Artists" - freed from WB, didn't he..? being able to release more stuff ?

Sadly that never happened.. since 1996 the quantity and quality just went down..


Edit: I just made a thread on this subject..
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this post will go unnoticed - But Would love to have a DVD set of allll Of Prince's Videos. THat would beeee sooooo Coooool

Because he won't get the full profit of the dvd sales until he owns his masters from Warners.

muleFunk said:[quote

Another mystery was why Prince did not let HBO/Showtime film the Musicology tour.One of my lasting memories was showing up at the GEC in Nashville and seeing Prince driving a golf cart with the heads of HBO and Showtime on the back begging for the show.

I really wish an insider from either camp could come in and clear this up.[/quote]

I believe Prince said himself that the numbers that HBO came up was not satisfactory. Prince major complaint seemed that the promotion of the one night only concert was not funded enough. If they don't spend millions promoting the event-Prince does not benefit. Prince needs a set budget-this takes the place of label promotions. In which he would not have to spend money to get his brand out. (I agree with Prince) A good example of promotion: see planet earth cd give away.

That's a good and resonable explanation to that question and to why these DVDs are not released as well.

Let me explain something from my eariler post about rumors that Prince making his own boots and how and why those rumors started.

A tatic used by record companies back in the day on uneducated artists was to make bootlegged albums and singles and sell them at concerts,barbershops, etc and not give the artist money for sales of these albums.This was expained in the movie the Five Heartbeats.For years the debates raged on until after the Per Nielson books were written however most thought it was Prince who did it and not the record companies. I do not subscibe to a lot of that theory but with the access that some had to his music it could have happened.

Right now, most of his old shows are too sexual/provocative to mesh with his JW beliefs. That could be a big reason.

If he does ever release legacy concerts, I hope they are full concerts (intact) and not compilations. Although I doubt I'd be able to tell the difference.

thedance said:

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Where have some of you been? You may not like the quality of the music since 1996 but he has put out a shit load of stuff since then and we did get a RAVE and ONE NIGHT ALONE CD so that was two in this decade. I would look for something with the next project or maybe he will just do something on his site.

I think some of you forget that P is not with a major label and he would need to do a big tour to make a DVD profitable since he will be the one eating the cost if he puts out a DVD and it does not sell.

I salivate at the thought of a comprehensive compilation of videoclips -- or at least allowing them to be downloaded from iTunes at $1.99 each. While a lot of them can be found DVD on The Hits, Batman, PR, GB, and UTCM, it's so silly that some of the clips from ATWIAD, Lovesexy, and the early LPs through 1999 are not available at any price.

But heck, why not give a proper DVD release to Lovesexy Live, Prince and the Revolution Live, and Sign 'O' The Times at the bare minimum? Why not bundle it in with a "special edition" of the CDs? That's like printing money.

laurarichardson said:

Rave technically belongs to the 90s decade since it was released in November of 1999. Unless you are talking about "the last 10 years" and not "this decade".

We have had some really decent music this decade though: One Nite Alone (Piano), One Nite Alone Live, The Rainbow Children, Musicology, 3121, LotusFlower and MPLSound. The only realy "stinker" was Planet Earth and there are still a handful of good songs on that one.