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Reply #30 posted 09/22/09 11:54am

ernestsewell

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ernestsewell said:

Prince needs to retire, and start releasing box sets or 2/3-CD sets of Vault material. Just start unloading it.

If Prince retires then he shouldn't release ANYTHING from that vault. If retirement is what he does, then it should be a complete wrap.


Then you don't understand retirement for a musician.
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Reply #31 posted 09/22/09 12:13pm

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ernestsewell said:

purplecam said:


If Prince retires then he shouldn't release ANYTHING from that vault. If retirement is what he does, then it should be a complete wrap.


Then you don't understand retirement for a musician.

Interesting it's no holds barred for him to make money in unscrupulous ways but actually making money after retirement, dig in the heels hells no! lol
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Reply #32 posted 09/22/09 1:56pm

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The more I think about it, the more i agree with Ernest L. Sewell.
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Reply #33 posted 09/22/09 2:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ernestsewell said:



Then you don't understand retirement for a musician.

Interesting it's no holds barred for him to make money in unscrupulous ways but actually making money after retirement, dig in the heels hells no! lol


I don't have issue with him making money, but make it worth MY money too.
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Reply #34 posted 09/22/09 3:33pm

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ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Interesting it's no holds barred for him to make money in unscrupulous ways but actually making money after retirement, dig in the heels hells no! lol


I don't have issue with him making money, but make it worth MY money too.

I know that. I was referring to those who make any and all excuses for the man's horrendous business practices all in the name of gosh, he's such a maverick and does things his way! and once he has an honest way to make that money, they don't want him to! lol

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Reply #35 posted 09/22/09 6:16pm

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ernestsewell said:

rwn said:



If that´s really what you feel then you should just retire being a fan of Prince biggrin


Don't get all butt hurt over my statement. It's true though, he should retire. His music is bland, uninspired, over produced, and forgettable soon after the first couple of listens. 99% of the hard core fan base would rather have 1 disk full of vault material than 5 disks of "new power soul" shit he's making these days. Yeah, he can tour or play live. He'll always do that. But even HE doesn't care about the new stuff anymore, especially if he's still putting together medleys of early 80's material for a concert. For someone who doesn't think about the past in fear of getting old, he sure goes back there for a visit a lot.

Just let the fault free. Air the sombitch out, and let us have it! We all want a clean copy of "All My Dreams", "Computer Blue"'s full version, etc etc


I don't know about retirement. He could probably use some time away from music. Only he will know what he has left and if he wants to share it he will. You haven't talked to 99% of the fanbase so don't assume anything. Some of us don't pine away for 1980's rejects.
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Reply #36 posted 09/22/09 6:19pm

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whodknee said:

ernestsewell said:



Don't get all butt hurt over my statement. It's true though, he should retire. His music is bland, uninspired, over produced, and forgettable soon after the first couple of listens. 99% of the hard core fan base would rather have 1 disk full of vault material than 5 disks of "new power soul" shit he's making these days. Yeah, he can tour or play live. He'll always do that. But even HE doesn't care about the new stuff anymore, especially if he's still putting together medleys of early 80's material for a concert. For someone who doesn't think about the past in fear of getting old, he sure goes back there for a visit a lot.

Just let the fault free. Air the sombitch out, and let us have it! We all want a clean copy of "All My Dreams", "Computer Blue"'s full version, etc etc


I don't know about retirement. He could probably use some time away from music. Only he will know what he has left and if he wants to share it he will. You haven't talked to 99% of the fanbase so don't assume anything. Some of us don't pine away for 1980's rejects.


Name those rejects please.
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Reply #37 posted 09/23/09 2:14am

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Collaboration, thats it. everything else is uninspired garbage.
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Reply #38 posted 09/23/09 4:34am

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He should collaborate with real jazz musicians (herbie hancock, christian mcbride, joshua redman etc) and do an album with him on vocals only. Repertoire would be Billie Holiday standards. This way, P could really concentrate on his vocal delivery and get dynamic support from these jazz cats. Would be nice to hear Prince on songs with this kind of chord changes.
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Reply #39 posted 09/23/09 4:46am

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Prince can go in what ever direction he wants to and we will all be there .!!!!!
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Reply #40 posted 09/23/09 9:43am

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jazzz said:

He should collaborate with real jazz musicians (herbie hancock, christian mcbride, joshua redman etc) and do an album with him on vocals only. Repertoire would be Billie Holiday standards. This way, P could really concentrate on his vocal delivery and get dynamic support from these jazz cats. Would be nice to hear Prince on songs with this kind of chord changes.
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I LOVE this idea!
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Reply #41 posted 09/23/09 10:11am

Serena

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

jazzz said:

He should collaborate with real jazz musicians (herbie hancock, christian mcbride, joshua redman etc) and do an album with him on vocals only. Repertoire would be Billie Holiday standards. This way, P could really concentrate on his vocal delivery and get dynamic support from these jazz cats. Would be nice to hear Prince on songs with this kind of chord changes.
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I LOVE this idea!


Me too, that'd be awesome! From your lips to Prince's ears...please? pray
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Reply #42 posted 09/23/09 10:12am

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Serena said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I LOVE this idea!


Me too, that'd be awesome! From your lips to Prince's ears...please? pray

Prince won't listen to me lol
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Reply #43 posted 09/23/09 10:21am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

jazzz said:

He should collaborate with real jazz musicians (herbie hancock, christian mcbride, joshua redman etc) and do an album with him on vocals only. Repertoire would be Billie Holiday standards. This way, P could really concentrate on his vocal delivery and get dynamic support from these jazz cats. Would be nice to hear Prince on songs with this kind of chord changes.
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I LOVE this idea!


ME too, that'd be like a hardcore version of the 2002 ONA tour. LOVE IT!
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Reply #44 posted 09/23/09 10:36am

Serena

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Serena said:



Me too, that'd be awesome! From your lips to Prince's ears...please? pray

Prince won't listen to me lol


lol Well, I meant the original poster, but I worded it wrong.
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Reply #45 posted 09/23/09 10:37am

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Serena said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Prince won't listen to me lol


lol Well, I meant the original poster, but I worded it wrong.

I was gonna say you should know betta than that! lol
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Reply #46 posted 09/23/09 10:52am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Serena said:



lol Well, I meant the original poster, but I worded it wrong.

I was gonna say you should know betta than that! lol


nod

I imagine you might make him chuckle a few times, but probably make him reach for his Preparation H most of the time. wink
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Reply #47 posted 09/23/09 10:56am

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I'd like to see him focus on melody/songwriting.
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Reply #48 posted 09/23/09 11:05am

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If he's gonna do something different, record some stuff and then throw it in a booth with 5 DJs and let them remix the hell out of it.
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Reply #49 posted 09/23/09 11:19am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

whodknee said:



I don't know about retirement. He could probably use some time away from music. Only he will know what he has left and if he wants to share it he will. You haven't talked to 99% of the fanbase so don't assume anything. Some of us don't pine away for 1980's rejects.


Name those rejects please.


Any song that didn't make it onto an album. I'm sure his best ideas have surfaced, either as "unreleased" tracks or in the form of new songs. Who's to say he hasn't used hooks and other ideas from the 80's and 90's on his recent albums. Usually there's a good reason a song doesn't make it onto an album.
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Reply #50 posted 09/23/09 11:33am

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whodknee said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Name those rejects please.


Any song that didn't make it onto an album. I'm sure his best ideas have surfaced, either as "unreleased" tracks or in the form of new songs. Who's to say he hasn't used hooks and other ideas from the 80's and 90's on his recent albums. Usually there's a good reason a song doesn't make it onto an album.

Back in the 80s it wasn't due to quality. it was due to quantity. WB only allowed so much to come out. Some of his most genius material from the 80s never saw official release.
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Reply #51 posted 09/23/09 11:46am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

whodknee said:



Any song that didn't make it onto an album. I'm sure his best ideas have surfaced, either as "unreleased" tracks or in the form of new songs. Who's to say he hasn't used hooks and other ideas from the 80's and 90's on his recent albums. Usually there's a good reason a song doesn't make it onto an album.

Back in the 80s it wasn't due to quality. it was due to quantity. WB only allowed so much to come out. Some of his most genius material from the 80s never saw official release.


I'd go as far as saying MOST of his most genius material...
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Reply #52 posted 09/23/09 11:54am

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What's that supposed to mean? A lot of Prince's more acclaimed material uses a drum machine - he was also one of the first to commercially use a Linn drum machine and was regarded as a pioneer. Programmed beats have featured on almost every single album he's released. Furthermore, his music has been mainly dance orientated since his very first album.

People get so hung up on Prince's "real music" diatribes that they think anything using a computer or electronics is somehow cheating! Its not - to make great music out of these machines is just as difficult as with a real instrument, it requires musical expertise and feel. Give these machines to anyone without that talent and, whilst with a computer they could more easily arrange some sounds together than they could making a recording of real instruments, its still likely to sound shit!

Prince was referring to people not actually having any musical background and just being studio engineers - the ability to play real instruments give you a sensibility and discipline in the studio. Prince is more afraid that these skills will disappear if more just turn straight to the computer, rather than learning an instrument first.
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What I mean is - for how many years has Prince poo pooed the electronic scene...all his rants about " if I want to listen to a machine I'll put some washing on" or "Real music by real musicians"... And now the well APPEARS to be running dry and suddenly it's Euro-pop all the way.

He'll become lime Madonna soon...she no longer releases music of her own because she just seems to sing over whichever is the most fashionalable producer at the time...Orbit, NERD, Dj Scooter, Pj & Duncan


With the greatest respect, I understand entirely what your opinion is, I'm just saying that you're basing it on an inaccuracy. Prince hasn't "poo pooed the electronic scene" as you put it - he has been using electronics himself for years and continues to do so. But, I made all these points above - you have clearly chosen to ignore them!

How has he gone "Euro-pop"? Cos of one remix? Lotusflow3r was "real music" - MPLSound still had elements and his latest rehearsal has him with band re-working some of his oldest material. Throwing baseless conjecture around to support your argument doesn't lend it any credibility.
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Reply #53 posted 09/23/09 11:59am

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I've only seen him live 3 times (in my entire life) in 2004, i want to see him again in concert! he's in great physical and mental condition he should keep on doing concerts... he still has to tour SouthAmerica, he only played once in Brazil and Argentina, in 1991!
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Reply #54 posted 09/23/09 12:52pm

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This topic amuses me, because who else except himself can answer???He only knows which way he might or not take?
Whatever his style anyway the fans will continue to follow and listen, and if some come and add themselves to the tide it's ok, if some follow a parallel way, it's ok..
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Reply #55 posted 09/23/09 1:31pm

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ernestsewell said:

rwn said:



If that´s really what you feel then you should just retire being a fan of Prince biggrin


Don't get all butt hurt over my statement. It's true though, he should retire. His music is bland, uninspired, over produced, and forgettable soon after the first couple of listens. 99% of the hard core fan base would rather have 1 disk full of vault material than 5 disks of "new power soul" shit he's making these days. Yeah, he can tour or play live. He'll always do that. But even HE doesn't care about the new stuff anymore, especially if he's still putting together medleys of early 80's material for a concert. For someone who doesn't think about the past in fear of getting old, he sure goes back there for a visit a lot.

Just let the fault free. Air the sombitch out, and let us have it! We all want a clean copy of "All My Dreams", "Computer Blue"'s full version, etc etc


A very large percentage of the fans were very pleased with Lotusflow3r and Mplsound. You seem to be able to disregard those who enjoy his recent output very easily.

Do you think your a spokesman for the hardcore fanbase.

Would you not agree that you are in the minority of those who think the last albums were lacklustre?

I've no problem with you not liking the albums but please don't come on here and speak as if it's a fact that the aformentioned albums are poor.

It's all down too taste.
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Reply #56 posted 09/23/09 1:38pm

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mushmackalenta said:

ernestsewell said:



Don't get all butt hurt over my statement. It's true though, he should retire. His music is bland, uninspired, over produced, and forgettable soon after the first couple of listens. 99% of the hard core fan base would rather have 1 disk full of vault material than 5 disks of "new power soul" shit he's making these days. Yeah, he can tour or play live. He'll always do that. But even HE doesn't care about the new stuff anymore, especially if he's still putting together medleys of early 80's material for a concert. For someone who doesn't think about the past in fear of getting old, he sure goes back there for a visit a lot.

Just let the fault free. Air the sombitch out, and let us have it! We all want a clean copy of "All My Dreams", "Computer Blue"'s full version, etc etc


A very large percentage of the fans were very pleased with Lotusflow3r and Mplsound. You seem to be able to disregard those who enjoy his recent output very easily.

Do you think your a spokesman for the hardcore fanbase.

Would you not agree that you are in the minority of those who think the last albums were lacklustre?

I've no problem with you not liking the albums but please don't come on here and speak as if it's a fact that the aformentioned albums are poor.

It's all down too taste.


If you like the taste of dogfood, you win the argument.
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Reply #57 posted 09/23/09 10:11pm

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mushmackalenta said:

A very large percentage of the fans were very pleased with Lotusflow3r and Mplsound. You seem to be able to disregard those who enjoy his recent output very easily.


YEAH VERY LARGE PERCENT OF FAM WHO BUY ANYTHING

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Reply #58 posted 09/24/09 12:23am

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