My sister-in-law said after I took her to a NIN gig that Trent is disturbed, but then I told her he is not like that anymore. She observed all the smiling faces leaving the Palladium and agreed.

You are funny

pplrain said:

I mean for me. I can explain exactly why too, but I get the feeling that you wouldn't care anyway.

It's funny to see how fanboys still compare a artist with more then 20 records and a 30 years career with an artist whith less then ten albums and no more then two decades on the spotlight. (The same thing happen on Radiohead forums during the "Creep" cover).

Let me put it this way:

Prince sixth album was Purple Rain, the 80's best album, a #1 record for 24 weeks. NIN sixth album was Year Zero, a failed album both with critics and on the charts.

Prince ninth album was Sign o the Times, a instant classic praised as one of the best albums ever. NIN ninth record was, wait ... they only have eight records, and we all know how NIN career turn out after With Teeth in 2005.

To compare their achievments isn't fair for Prince, because NIN is a younger act, still Prince slamed Trent with more succesfulls albums, biggest tours and longer estabillity, it's a fact that Prince have more relevance on todays (this means this generation) music scene then Trent Reznor, just ask MGMT, MIA, Tv on the Radio, Wolfmother, Andree 3000, Of Montreal etc.

Prince ninth album was Sign O the Times, I mean, fucking legendary Sign o The Times!!! I wanna see Trent Reznor ninth album, hope it's a little better then that garbage Ghosts I–IV album.

My comment was regarding purplemusiq8 comment "the last few Prince albums have sucked. NIN never ceases to amaze me, both live and on record"

PurpleMusiq8 might be a hardcore NIN fan, beacuse he was one of the few who like NIN last albums.

Broken, The Downward Spiral, Pretty Hate Machine and even The Fragile are masterpieces, but is a fact that Trent is run of ideas after his fourth album, I mean can you say that With Teeth or Year Zero are masterpieces? right, let's not talk about the crap of Ghosts and the Slip.

Sure Prince album # 25 New Power Soul wasn't all that, still Prince was doing he best stuff on his ninth album, something really rare in the music industry, cause many artists dowfall starts at the fifth album, NIN is a very, very good example of that.

Even Prince 12 album, Graffiti Bridge, was an amazing achievment on sound and style. If you compare NIN 8 albums to Prince first 8 albums (in cronologycal order), With Teeth, Year Zero, Ghosts I–IV, The Slip can't touch 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World and Parade.

To compare a younger act to a older act all comes down to longevity, and things are looking pretty hard to NIN, I don't think Trent can even pull a Diamonds and Pearls (Prince 13th album) in five years.

I saw NIN live in 1994 and later on with the Fragile album and they were great, then I saw them a couple of years ago and it was boring and repetitive. A friend of mine went see them on Mexico city and she told me it was horrible. is hard to watch Trent faking anger and bitterness on the stage. Even Prince changed his live act after the 80's.

I saw my last Prince concert on 2004 with the Musicology tour and still was the best live act, even better then before.

But if we stick to critics, art historians, music experts etc. Prince beat down Trent in a second.

If we stick to sells, Prince beat down Trent in a second.

If we stick to the most influential today, Prince beat Trent in a second.

If we stick to their achievment on technology Prince beat down Trent in a second (when Prince was busy inventing the Itunes and myspace system Trent was selling out to the industry).

If we stick to lamest publicity stunt, Trent beat Prince in a second (twitter trashing).

If we stick to friendly artist with fans as desperate move to have better sells Trent beat Prince in a second.

aarontj, I won't even bother responding to most of your comments because they don't make any sense. I'm not sure why you came in here and turned this into a Prince VS Trent thread. I participated in this thread originally because it wasn't one of those threads, and I welcomed the opportunity of a discussion regarding two of my favorite artists without it turning into a hate fest.

I don't have that many questions to you, just have one:

Why do you take it on me while purplemusiq8 made a totally abzurd comment with "the last few Prince albums have sucked. NIN never ceases to amaze me, both live and on record"? Like if they stared at the same time doing the same sound. If that not a hate comment I wonder what is?

Prince is influencing Trent right because he says he is going to disappear and make his NIN fanboys wait.

I've heard "Had U" owes a lot to Trent and NIN's influence. I've always heard a Santana/Hendrix touch, personally.

Either way, gorgeous arrangement.

you silly kids still talking about this bullshit??

roodboi said:

Well as far as I can see we are just discussing stuff in a fairly civilised, yet maybe passionate manner.

No-ones getting hurt are they? And that's what these forums are all about afterall.

I, for one have always wanted to discuss this sort of shit becuase I have so much pent up anger about it - to the point where it's nearly ruined my life.

When I went to university I didn't fit in because I wanted to wear colour when everyone else wanted to wear black and sit around looking miserable.

I didn't relate to these people and their 'in' jokes.

When the DJ in the club would put Prince on I would be the only one who wanted to get up and dance - everyone else was like, 'this is shit..'

And yes this did 'cultivate' a hatred towards 'indie' music and the indie scence because I felt so alienated from it.

So yeah I'm mentally scarred for life about this stuff. Sorry if it seems a 'bullshit' thread to you.
[Edited 9/26/09 3:58am]

Why don't you look bands like Pigface (who I always thought some of their material sounded like Prince in the 90's anyways)

Militant said:

she wouldn't..
of course for you, thats a legit statement...and thats perfectly fine and you explained your point of view fairly clearly earlier...that's the problem with this forum, any discussion about P and other artists turns into a 'Prince is the awesomest ever and no others can compare' fest...what could be a decent discussion about matters of opinion turns into a crappy, one sided "my Prince opinion is fact" discussion...

Trent WHO!

Outside of the US of A, this dude aint shit...I mean who the fuck is he?

It pains me that on a prince forum that nobody's are compared to the genius and legend and icon and lady girl that is our wee purple pixie.

tent fucking who?

PurpleMusiq8 said:

Dude...this thread has conclusively proved that every day there are more and more idiots joining this forum. It seems not many people here are able to look at things from a realistic and objective point of view. You can't argue with fools. I've been in the music industry my entire life, if people can't see or don't wanna admit that Trent is one of the most influential acts out there, then fuck 'em. If this thread was in the non-Prince section it would have taken a whole different turn.

I'm not even bothering any more. Thanks for trying to make an objective comparison thread....too bad it turned into this bullshit.

But anyway, I replied because you mentioned Pigface so I thought I'd show you this picture from just a few days ago - http://twitgoo.com/3h839

That's me on the left, and on the right is Martin Atkins of Public Image Ltd, Killing Joke, Ministry, NIN, and founder and creative genius behind Pigface (and founder of Invisible Records). He's a good friend of mine. Based in Chicago now, but he was back in the UK for a few days so we met up for a drink and to discuss a few projects that we're collaborating on. Thought you might be interested to see it

pepper7 said:

the thread isn't bullshit...the direction topics like this always take is bullshit...it's nearly always ends in a "my artist can beat up your artist" vibe...

sorry that indie music ruined your life...it's a cruel world

Why are you turning my misery into a joke??

That's a bit cruel don't you think. Or do you not care about that?

pepper7 said:

the thread isn't bullshit...the direction topics like this always take is bullshit...it's nearly always ends in a "my artist can beat up your artist" vibe...

sorry that indie music ruined your life...it's a cruel world

Your the type of person that I hate.

pepper7 said:

the feeling is mutual...we have so much in common

roodboi said:

btw doesn't your name describe you.

pplrain said:

And I love him for it!!!

roodboi said:

btw doesn't your name describe you.

Vendetta1 said:

pplrain said:

I bet if Prince trivialized peppers indie scene social issues, you'd be all up on those purple nuts...

pplrain said:

I bet if Prince trivialized peppers indie scene social issues, you'd be all up on those purple nuts...

pepper7 said:

the feeling is mutual...we have so much in common

legna said:

Oh fuck... you went to the Palladium gig?

pepper7 said:

that was a joke long before I ever commented on it...get over yourself