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what is the difference between Lotusflower and MPL music?? is there a difference? "what smell?" | |
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Lotus is a mix of rock and a little bit of jazz. MPL Sound is r&b and techno and computer generated music. I LOVE BOTH! | |
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Lotus for me  | |
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Some say one is less shitty than the other. I've not figured out which is which yet. | |
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You mean, aside from being 2 different albums? Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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moderatorernestsewell said: Some say one is less shitty than the other. I've not figured out which is which yet.
LOL. I will say one is MUCH better than the other IMO | |
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Nobody's gonna believe that I have never even played my Lotusflow3r cd and I got it the day it came out, so I wouldn't know.
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dance4me3121 said: Lotus is a mix of rock and a little bit of jazz.
Debatable, at least. MPL Sound is r&b and techno and computer generated music.
What a nonsense...  [Edited 9/17/09 14:59pm] | |
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thanks2joniandu said: ernestsewell said: Some say one is less shitty than the other. I've not figured out which is which yet.
LOL. I will say one is MUCH better than the other IMO The one you turned the volume all the way down on? | |
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I guess it's not for people who can't hear, you really should all take a good listen. | |
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susanscourt said: I guess it's not for people who can't hear, you really should all take a good listen.
That's rather narrow and dismissive of those who have taken a good listen or two or three, and still find it to be utter bullshit. | |
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FunkyDissCo said: dance4me3121 said: Lotus is a mix of rock and a little bit of jazz. Debatable, at least. MPL Sound is r&b and techno and computer generated music. What a nonsense... [Edited 9/17/09 14:59pm] | |
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Lotusflower is rock orientated, I agree.
MPLSound is a return to the Minneapolis sound Prince was so well known of in the 1980's: including the Linn drum machine and synths instead of horn arrangements. Both are very good albums... 8/10 imo, but still not great and edgy as the classic 1980s material. imo.  [Edited 9/17/09 22:12pm] Prince 4Ever.  | |
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ernestsewell said: susanscourt said: I guess it's not for people who can't hear, you really should all take a good listen.
That's rather narrow and dismissive of those who have taken a good listen or two or three, and still find it to be utter bullshit. I was expecting your answer Ernest, nice to see you came through. | |
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I'm guessing dance4me isn't too familiar with techno? And computer music? What's that exactly, random Commodore 64 generated beeps and blips?
Dance4me, it's better to say nothing and be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it. Best you read that twice before replying. | |
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In defense of the "computer generated "-notion: MPLSound does have a computer generated feel to it, as opposed to something that Prince would have done with separete pieces of equipment in the studio with tracks being build on top of each other by going from item to another. People who have worked with sequencers on computers would be quite familiar structurally with what's happening on MPLSound. There's more copy pasted clips there than on any of his previous records, more stagnant unchanging structures where variation is generated simply by layering more tracks on top of the existing rhythmic parts and so on. That tends to happen when you're sitting comfortably on your ass in front of the computer monitor and get into toying with the tracks on the sequencer as opposed to trying out new things on the instruments.
Nothing forces you to work that way even with computers, but it is often the end result nevertheless. In fact, it shows that Prince might be even a bit of a novice when it comes to using a Protools -like environment as a compositional tool. Glad that other people are enjoying the record though, for me it was a rather short fling that got stale within two weeks. [Edited 9/18/09 1:53am] | |
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novabrkr said: In defense of the "computer generated "-notion: MPLSound does have a computer generated feel to it, as opposed to something that Prince would have done with separete pieces of equipment in the studio with tracks being build on top of each other by going from item to another. People who have worked with sequencers on computers would be quite familiar structurally with what's happening on MPLSound. There's more copy pasted clips there than on any of his previous records, more stagnant unchanging structures where variation is generated simply by layering more tracks on top of the existing rhythmic parts and so on. That tends to happen when you're sitting comfortably on your ass in front of the computer monitor and get into toying with the tracks on the sequencer as opposed to trying out new things on the instruments.
Nothing forces you to work that way even with computers, but it is often the end result nevertheless. In fact, it shows that Prince might be even a bit of a novice when it comes to using a Protools -like environment as a compositional tool. Glad that other people are enjoying the record though, for me it was a rather short fling that got stale within two weeks. [Edited 9/18/09 1:53am] So, I'm not the only one who gets a Batman feel from it, then?  | |
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Dayclear said: Nobody's gonna believe that I have never even played my Lotusflow3r cd and I got it the day it came out, so I wouldn't know.
[Edited 9/17/09 13:29pm] How come Dayclear? U don't have to answer if you don't want 2...I think I understand... [Edited 9/18/09 6:22am] "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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thanks2joniandu said: ernestsewell said: Some say one is less shitty than the other. I've not figured out which is which yet.
LOL. I will say one is MUCH better than the other IMO ----- Most sane people would say that. (LOL) | |
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so the lotus flower is 3 cd's and the mpl is how many and is it completely seperate? "what smell?" | |
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dance4me3121 said: Lotus is a mix of rock and a little bit of jazz. MPL Sound is r&b and techno and computer generated music. I LOVE BOTH!
techno? you don`t have any idea,do U? "Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us" | |
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divya10 said: so the lotus flower is 3 cd's and the mpl is how many and is it completely seperate?
do you really not understand? Lotusflow3r is a 3CD album. It is made up of 3 CDs, they are: 1.Elixer by Bria Valente 2.Lotusflow3r by Prince 3.MPLSound by Prince get it now? | |
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greyhoodiegirl said: divya10 said: so the lotus flower is 3 cd's and the mpl is how many and is it completely seperate?
do you really not understand? Lotusflow3r is a 3CD album. It is made up of 3 CDs, they are: 1.Elixer by Bria Valente 2.Lotusflow3r by Prince 3.MPLSound by Prince get it now? aaah comprende comprende!! "what smell?" | |
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MPLS is an attempt to do his old sound. fail.
Lotusflower is a bit more palatable. |
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govinda said: dance4me3121 said: Lotus is a mix of rock and a little bit of jazz. MPL Sound is r&b and techno and computer generated music. I LOVE BOTH! techno? you don`t have any idea,do U? | |
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dance4me3121 said: govinda said: techno? you don`t have any idea,do U? i said a MIX of techno and r&b. Prince even mentions one of his own songs as techno (Chocolate box). And yes the album is computer generated,u can tell.Prince mentioned recently that he used sum program on the computer to make MPLSOUND. I think it was called Pro tools i cud be wrong though.Still can't imagine Carl Cox or Laurent Garnier playing any Prince. I think you're comprehension of house, electronica, techno, trance and the like is somewhat lacking
I also think that you misunderstand computer generated. A computer did not generate the music, Prince generated the music. He could easily have produced Sign O The Times with Pro Tools (had it existed). Pro Tools is a fantastic piece of software that can manipulate anything that's placed within it, be it recorded drums, Fruity Loops samples, whatever. I think you mean that MPLSound has a more electronic vibe about it. It was Prince trying to capture part of the New Wave/Electro sound that he had so many years ago dabbled within. It sounds old because it is. As for the R&B stuff that Prince throws in on each album... well he can write that stuff at the drop of a hat. Doesn't always make it good though... | |
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dance4me3121 said: i said a MIX of techno and r&b. Prince even mentions one of his own songs as techno (Chocolate box). And yes the album is computer generated,u can tell.Prince mentioned recently that he used sum program on the computer to make MPLSOUND. I think it was called Pro tools i cud be wrong though.
iloveannie said: Still can't imagine Carl Cox or Laurent Garnier playing any Prince. I think you're comprehension of house, electronica, techno, trance and the like is somewhat lacking
[Edited 9/23/09 3:08am] [Edited 9/23/09 3:14am] "Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us" | |
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govinda said: dance4me3121 said: i said a MIX of techno and r&b. Prince even mentions one of his own songs as techno (Chocolate box). And yes the album is computer generated,u can tell.Prince mentioned recently that he used sum program on the computer to make MPLSOUND. I think it was called Pro tools i cud be wrong though.
iloveannie said: Still can't imagine Carl Cox or Laurent Garnier playing any Prince. I think you're comprehension of house, electronica, techno, trance and the like is somewhat lacking
[Edited 9/23/09 3:08am] [Edited 9/23/09 3:14am] As I said, computer "generated" is completely bull as is "techno", even more the latter. There's not a single bit of "techno influence" on ANY Prince recording. And I wouldn't say there is ANY influence of contemporary "electronic music" (Drum N Bass, Trip Hop, whatever) on his records either, check that. Plus Prince doesn't have too much stuff on his albums (never had) which could actually be considered "RnB" in the narrower sense. If with RnB you mean stuff like D'Angelo, Beyonce or R Kelly, I'm still searching for the track where Prince would fit that label. Prince is not a "soul" artists. I don't give a damn about such labels in general, but some notions just fit better than others. His mixture is a unique blending of Pop, Rock and Funk, that's what he always did, and apart from a few excursions into jazzy instrumental stuff (NOT "jazz"), he never did anything different. | |
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FunkyDissCo ...and apart from a few excursions into jazzy instrumental stuff (NOT "jazz"), he never did anything different.
New Wave. Although he was hardly Flock of Seagulls or New Order. | |
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iloveannie said: FunkyDissCo ...and apart from a few excursions into jazzy instrumental stuff (NOT "jazz"), he never did anything different.
New Wave. Although he was hardly Flock of Seagulls or New Order. OK, this might be true, though i never could really understand what this exactly would be if not something like the term "independent" nowadays, something like a residual category where everything is put in that doesn't fit the mainstream labels. But again, i never understood this, which might be my problem, and i think you're right with this one. Also, I'd like to add that well, there is a bit of electronic influence on some tracks, like "I wanna melt with U" maybe which came to my mind this afternoon. But these are definitely rather exceptions than the rule. | |
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