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PrintableWhy are people worried (angry) about Prince reaching a deal with you tube. I mean is it really any of your business?
Don't ask did Prince reach a deal with youtube. You need to be asking was it a Victory for all musicians, songwriters, composers,and music lovers. 
Here is some food for thought... A Bill of Rights for Songwriters & Composers Created by ASCAP, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers Just as citizens of a nation must be educated about their rights to ensure that they are protected and upheld, so too must those who compose words and music know the rights that support their own acts of creation. Without these rights, which directly emanate from the U.S. Constitution, many who dream of focusing their talents and energies on music creation would be economically unable to do so – an outcome that would diminish artistic expression today and for future generations. At this time, when so many forces are seeking to diminish copyright protections and devalue artistic expression, this Bill of Rights for Songwriters and Composers looks to clarify the entitlements that every music creator enjoys. 1.We have the right to be compensated for the use of our creative works, and share in the revenues that they generate. 2.We have the right to license our works and control the ways in which they are used. 3.We have the right to withhold permission for uses of our works on artistic, economic or philosophical grounds. 4.We have the right to protect our creative works to the fullest extent of the law from all forms of piracy, theft and unauthorized use, which deprive us of our right to earn a living based on our creativity. 5.We have the right to choose when and where our creative works may be used for free. 6.We have the right to develop, document and distribute our works through new media channels - while retaining the right to a share in all associated profits. 7.We have the right to choose the organizations we want to represent us and to join our voices together to protect our rights and negotiate for the value of our music. 8.We have the right to earn compensation from all types of "performances," including direct, live renditions as well as indirect recordings, broadcasts, digital streams and more. 9.We have the right to decline participation in business models that require us to relinquish all or part of our creative rights - or which do not respect our right to be compensated for our work. 10.We have the right to advocate for strong laws protecting our creative works, and demand that our government vigorously uphold and protect our rights. If theese are'nt enough reasons..I suggest that u seek professional help! PEACE [Edited 9/15/09 17:36pm] Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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metallicjigolo said: Don't ask did Prince reach a deal with youtube. You need to be asking was it a Victory for all musicians, songwriters & composers.
Stop all the hating where Prince is concerned. If your angry cuz you don't think you're getting what you paid for (Lotusflow3r.com, NPGMC...etc.)Cool. Just STEP!!! Or if you are mad that the dancin baby video got taken off youtube Cool. STEP!! If you stay and ask for more..It seems that the PROBLEM is not Prince. The Problem LIES WITH YOU!  | |
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Thats cute. Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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metallicjigolo said: Thats cute.
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purplecam said: This is from Dr FB: http://www.drfunkenberry.com/
I hope this is true,I miss seeing his video's
If this rumor is true, it is unprecedented. We are hearing rumors that Youtube is now paying Prince to have his music on their site. Prince, a long standing opponent of youtube, may have finally reached an agreement with the popular video web site. Lately, Prince’s latest videos and songs have been getting posted on youtube (but wanting the videos not to be posted elsewhere and has disabled the embed code to post on various web sites.) So he may be easing off on them. I think it is a GREAT decision. I have always been a supporter of youtube and if radio doesn’t play your stuff or MTV is too busy showing an episode of the Hills, youtube is an amazing promotional tool. What do you guys think of this decision? I don’t really care if it took Youtube to pay Prince, just glad he is open to the usage of it.-Dr.FB [Edited 9/13/09 22:00pm]   ♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
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Anxiety said: metallicjigolo said: Thats cute.
and truer than true!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: and truer than true! This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!  | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: and truer than true! This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!  | |
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Am I missing something? The Drfunkenberry report shows a screenshot from youtube of the video for 1999, but I just see the 4 prince videos posted by mplsound on youtunbe, 3 of which aren't actually videos. | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: and truer than true! This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!! 
Seriously, it's "Prince sucks cuz he doesn't allow anything on YouTube!". Then, Prince puts stuff on YouTube - "Prince sucks for putting this on YouTube instead of his private site, even though we hate it anyway!".  | |
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Imago said: Anxiety said: This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!  | |
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Serena said: Anxiety said: This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!
Seriously, it's "Prince sucks cuz he doesn't allow anything on YouTube!". Then, Prince puts stuff on YouTube - "Prince sucks for putting this on YouTube instead of his private site, even though we hate it anyway!". True dat! It oughtta be "We paid $77 for exclusive content that now he's putting for YouTube for free and that is freakin AWESOME WOOT WOOT WOOT". | |
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Anxiety said: Serena said:
Seriously, it's "Prince sucks cuz he doesn't allow anything on YouTube!". Then, Prince puts stuff on YouTube - "Prince sucks for putting this on YouTube instead of his private site, even though we hate it anyway!". True dat! It oughtta be "We paid $77 for exclusive content that now he's putting for YouTube for free and that is freakin AWESOME WOOT WOOT WOOT". Well, he has put stuff on the site, no recent updates, but those last ones were pretty cool. For newbies, the site has more material than for us old-timers though. | |
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Serena, nice try to defend Prince, but: I am so HAPPY I didn't signed & payed those $77, 
I will never join another Prince site. That's the lesson after all the fiasco's in the past 10-12 years or so.... Crystal Ball / 1-800-New-Funk > I never got my order back in 1998. What I now have heard is on the LF site... well that material is uninteresting to me, cuz most of us old fans own those recordings/ videos already. Lotusflower.com is a complete fiasco. Well that's my opinion [Edited 9/15/09 21:40pm] Prince 4Ever.  | |
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thedance said: Serena, nice try to defend Prince, but: I am so HAPPY I didn't signed & payed those $77,
I will never join another Prince site. That's the lesson after all the fiasco's in the past 10-12 years or so.... Crystal Ball / 1-800-New-Funk > I never got my order back in 1998. What I now have heard is on the LF site... well that material is uninteresting to me, cuz most of us old fans own those recordings/ videos already. Lotusflower.com is a complete fiasco. Well that's my opinion
[Edited 9/15/09 21:40pm] Not really defending him, that comment is more about the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' bitching here. I've also been lucky and have never had ANY problems with his online ordering, even back to the Crystal Ball days and I ordered a bunch of stuff from all the different entities and have been happy with my club memberships. But, unlike a lot of others here, I don't have a problem whatsoever with the $77 I paid. Considering the CONSTANT enjoyment I get from his music and performances, I think he deserves it. Shit, I've gotten more than $77 worth of chills just from his various versions of The Beautiful Ones! Back when I bought the Purple Rain album, FULL of awesome music, he got what, like 10 cents from my purchase? I also know that I owe him some extra $$ for some things I might have had in my possession at one time or another. I like to try and even out the Karma...
btw...I paid $77 for a t-shirt in Vegas, so paying the same for a yearly subscription isn't as crazy as that! [Edited 9/15/09 22:36pm] | |
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Serena said: Anxiety said: True dat! It oughtta be "We paid $77 for exclusive content that now he's putting for YouTube for free and that is freakin AWESOME WOOT WOOT WOOT". Well, he has put stuff on the site, no recent updates, but those last ones were pretty cool. For newbies, the site has more material than for us old-timers though.In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
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O LAWD..HERE WE GO  Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Serena said: Well, he has put stuff on the site, no recent updates, but those last ones were pretty cool. For newbies, the site has more material than for us old-timers though.In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
. [Edited 9/15/09 23:57pm] While we're at it. Let's add Boy George 2 that lot! | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Serena said: Well, he has put stuff on the site, no recent updates, but those last ones were pretty cool. For newbies, the site has more material than for us old-timers though.In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
. [Edited 9/15/09 23:57pm] I realize that this is off-topic. Please forgive. But I must reply 2 this. Just by merely comparing record sales and other statistics alone don't do justice 4 any of the three. Especially 4 P. Through my older brothers, I was blessed 2 listen 2 the early J5 '45s, Commodores, EW&F, and especially Stevie with "SITKOL". My grandmother (RIP) exposed me 2 BB King, Staple Singers, etc. My 2nd oldest bro had Bros Johnson with Quincy Jones with "Strawberry Letter 23." They would turn on a radio station and there was Aerosmith, KISS, Zep, Fleetwoood Mac, Eagles, etc. Then came '79, MJ drops OTW and Ps second set came out practically 1 on top of the other. My brother brought them home for the first time and I was mesmerized! Now being the weirdo I was (and still am 4 that matter), I used 2 read the credits on the album sleeves 2 see who produced what, who composed which song. I noticed Quincy's name on OTW and I noticed P produced, composed, played all instruments (U know the rest). Even back then I knew these 2 would do great things for the next decade (of course no one knew of Thriller, PR, 1999, and SOTT, just called it a "hunch") However, even back then I knew these 2 were polar opposites of each other. Nelson George in retrospective said it best. In terms of the music industry, MJ was the insider - a pure product of R&B/Pop music tradition that expanded tremendously with Motown in the '60s and '70s, whereas P was (and in certain respects still is) the outsider - coming from the angle of Jimi, Sly, Santana, and to a certain degree Bob Marley. If u wish 2 take it further, MJ's father played guitar in a R&B band; Ps father played piano and his mother sang in a jazz band. MJ simply and ingeniously extended those aforementioned R&B/Pop and took them 2 another level. P simply took Jimi and Sly, fused them together and took that 2 another level. 2 things that brought them 2gether was James Brown, whom they both loved and practically patterned their performances/dance moves after, and the brilliant artistry/genius of Stevie. MJ was practically in the studio constantly with Stevie during that great period (Innervisions, SITKOL)learning from and watching Stevie during the rehearsals and recording process. P mastered piano, drums and guitar and looked to Stevie's guidance as well through his records. Being an 'ol schooler myself, I learned to play trumpet and struggled with guitar growing up (getting better tho' -shoutout 2 Blackguitarist). I looked 2 Miles Davis as an influence though he was way before my time. Then when he and P hooked up in '85 I became excited. Then it hit me, Ps ultimate influence was Miles. Plus Miles thought of P as that best artist of his generation and even went so far 2 say that he could become the next Duke Ellington if he kept it up. He loved MJ as well but he liked P more as an all-around musical force. That was my opinion back then as a learning musician. Of course my schoolmates back then was more in2 MJ and Madge because of hit singles and stuff. Some liked P but really only because of 1999 and PR and how many millions they had sold and other hit singles like Kiss and U Got the Look, 2 which the cheerleaders at my high school danced 2 at pep rally functions. Personally from a musician's standpoint I never really saw the connection between the three. 2 me it was Stevie Wonder, Jimi, Miles, Trane, Joni, and the Beatles that P should b compared 2 if U compare them at all. My point is great artists and great music will always endure. Kind of Blue (released 50 years ago) still sells in the millions 2 this day! Jimi, who's been dead 4 nearly forty years, his legacy continues 2 shine with kids who still aspire 2 play like him. And don't get me started on the Beatles, who broke up during that same period!
Now as far as this "rumored" deal with YouTube is concerned, I think it's a smart move on his part if it's true. Best of luck 2 him. Peace! [Edited 9/16/09 3:51am] | |
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Smittyrock70 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
. [Edited 9/15/09 23:57pm] I realize that this is off-topic. Please forgive. But I must reply 2 this. Just by merely comparing record sales and other statistics alone don't do justice 4 any of the three. Especially 4 P. Through my older brothers, I was blessed 2 listen 2 the early J5 '45s, Commodores, EW&F, and especially Stevie with "SITKOL". My grandmother (RIP) exposed me 2 BB King, Staple Singers, etc. My 2nd oldest bro had Bros Johnson with Quincy Jones with "Strawberry Letter 23." They would turn on a radio station and there was Aerosmith, KISS, Zep, Fleetwoood Mac, Eagles, etc. Then came '79, MJ drops OTW and Ps second set came out practically 1 on top of the other. My brother brought them home for the first time and I was mesmerized! Now being the weirdo I was (and still am 4 that matter), I used 2 read the credits on the album sleeves 2 see who produced what, who composed which song. I noticed Quincy's name on OTW and I noticed P produced, composed, played all instruments (U know the rest). Even back then I knew these 2 would do great things for the next decade (of course no one knew of Thriller, PR, 1999, and SOTT, just called it a "hunch") However, even back then I knew these 2 were polar opposites of each other. Nelson George in retrospective said it best. In terms of the music industry, MJ was the insider - a pure product of R&B/Pop music tradition that expanded tremendously with Motown in the '60s and '70s, whereas P was (and in certain respects still is) the outsider - coming from the angle of Jimi, Sly, Santana, and to a certain degree Bob Marley. If u wish 2 take it further, MJ's father played guitar in a R&B band; Ps father played piano and his mother sang in a jazz band. MJ simply and ingeniously extended those aforementioned R&B/Pop and took them 2 another level. P simply took Jimi and Sly, fused them together and took that 2 another level. 2 things that brought them 2gether was James Brown, whom they both loved and practically patterned their performances/dance moves after, and the brilliant artistry/genius of Stevie. MJ was practically in the studio constantly with Stevie during that great period (Innervisions, SITKOL)learning from and watching Stevie during the rehearsals and recording process. P mastered piano, drums and guitar and looked to Stevie's guidance as well through his records. Being an 'ol schooler myself, I learned to play trumpet and struggled with guitar growing up (getting better tho' -shoutout 2 Blackguitarist). I looked 2 Miles Davis as an influence though he was way before my time. Then when he and P hooked up in '85 I became excited. Then it hit me, Ps ultimate influence was Miles. Plus Miles thought of P as that best artist of his generation and even went so far 2 say that he could become the next Duke Ellington if he kept it up. He loved MJ as well but he liked P more as an all-around musical force. That was my opinion back then as a learning musician. Of course my schoolmates back then was more in2 MJ and Madge because of hit singles and stuff. Some liked P but really only because of 1999 and PR and how many millions they had sold and other hit singles like Kiss and U Got the Look, 2 which the cheerleaders at my high school danced 2 at pep rally functions. Personally from a musician's standpoint I never really saw the connection between the three. 2 me it was Stevie Wonder, Jimi, Miles, Trane, Joni, and the Beatles that P should b compared 2 if U compare them at all. My point is great artists and great music will always endure. Kind of Blue (released 50 years ago) still sells in the millions 2 this day! Jimi, who's been dead 4 nearly forty years, his legacy continues 2 shine with kids who still aspire 2 play like him. And don't get me started on the Beatles, who broke up during that same period!
Now as far as this "rumored" deal with YouTube is concerned, I think it's a smart move on his part if it's true. Best of luck 2 him. Peace! [Edited 9/16/09 3:51am] |
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Serena said: Anxiety said: This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!
Seriously, it's "Prince sucks cuz he doesn't allow anything on YouTube!". Then, Prince puts stuff on YouTube - "Prince sucks for putting this on YouTube instead of his private site, even though we hate it anyway!".
They're insatiable... I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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metallicjigolo said: A Bill of Rights for Songwriters & Composers Created by ASCAP, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers Just as citizens of a nation must be educated about their rights to ensure that they are protected and upheld, so too must those who compose words and music know the rights that support their own acts of creation. Without these rights, which directly emanate from the U.S. Constitution, many who dream of focusing their talents and energies on music creation would be economically unable to do so – an outcome that would diminish artistic expression today and for future generations. At this time, when so many forces are seeking to diminish copyright protections and devalue artistic expression, this Bill of Rights for Songwriters and Composers looks to clarify the entitlements that every music creator enjoys. 1.We have the right to be compensated for the use of our creative works, and share in the revenues that they generate. 2.We have the right to license our works and control the ways in which they are used. 3.We have the right to withhold permission for uses of our works on artistic, economic or philosophical grounds. 4.We have the right to protect our creative works to the fullest extent of the law from all forms of piracy, theft and unauthorized use, which deprive us of our right to earn a living based on our creativity. 5.We have the right to choose when and where our creative works may be used for free. 6.We have the right to develop, document and distribute our works through new media channels - while retaining the right to a share in all associated profits. 7.We have the right to choose the organizations we want to represent us and to join our voices together to protect our rights and negotiate for the value of our music. 8.We have the right to earn compensation from all types of "performances," including direct, live renditions as well as indirect recordings, broadcasts, digital streams and more. 9.We have the right to decline participation in business models that require us to relinquish all or part of our creative rights - or which do not respect our right to be compensated for our work. 10.We have the right to advocate for strong laws protecting our creative works, and demand that our government vigorously uphold and protect our rights. Songwriters have these rights already. Every author and copyright owner has these rights. And tell you what, if anything it's ASCAP that deprives songwriters of their rights. It's ASCAP that wants to control their copyrights and collect all the royalties, wherever, whenever with whatever. That is an issue that this 'bill of rights' written by ASCAP does not adress but you can take my word for it that lots of songwriters aren't exactly all that happy with ASCAP! | |
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Serena said: Anxiety said: This forum is called "PRINCE MUSIC AND MORE" for a reason, because all you people want is more, more, more, more, more! You're lucky he even performs for you!!!
Seriously, it's "Prince sucks cuz he doesn't allow anything on YouTube!". Then, Prince puts stuff on YouTube - "Prince sucks for putting this on YouTube instead of his private site, even though we hate it anyway!". Seriously who cares that some fans have a damned if u do, damned if u don't attitude? If you are fair you will agree that most peeps on this thread applaud this news. So there is no need to focus on the few who don't and pretend that it's the entire org bitching again. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Serena said: Well, he has put stuff on the site, no recent updates, but those last ones were pretty cool. For newbies, the site has more material than for us old-timers though.In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
. [Edited 9/15/09 23:57pm] pah! yeah...he owes it all to us old timers! if it weren't for us he'd be nowhere! You've GOT to be kidding me with this arguement? ahh yeah...I guess, if it weren't for people in general liking his music he'd not have had the sucess he's had but geez you make it sound like he woulda just dropped off the face of the earth with out "US" sticking with him through the 90's and 00's and that is just SILLY! Prince continues to gain new fans to this day. Before anyone knew who he was through his least popular times, he has always gained new fans due to his talent, and personality (be it good or bad) To say there would be no newbies if we hadn't stuck with him is ridiculous."not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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purplecam said: This is from Dr FB: http://www.drfunkenberry.com/
If this rumor is true, it is unprecedented. We are hearing rumors that Youtube is now paying Prince to have his music on their site. Prince, a long standing opponent of youtube, may have finally reached an agreement with the popular video web site. Lately, Prince’s latest videos and songs have been getting posted on youtube (but wanting the videos not to be posted elsewhere and has disabled the embed code to post on various web sites.) So he may be easing off on them. I think it is a GREAT decision. I have always been a supporter of youtube and if radio doesn’t play your stuff or MTV is too busy showing an episode of the Hills, youtube is an amazing promotional tool. What do you guys think of this decision? I don’t really care if it took Youtube to pay Prince, just glad he is open to the usage of it.-Dr.FB [Edited 9/13/09 22:00pm] yeah i think promo of lotusflow3r would be good on youtube i think chocolate box love would get a few new fans in ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: purplecam said: This is from Dr FB: http://www.drfunkenberry.com/
If this rumor is true, it is unprecedented. We are hearing rumors that Youtube is now paying Prince to have his music on their site. Prince, a long standing opponent of youtube, may have finally reached an agreement with the popular video web site. Lately, Prince’s latest videos and songs have been getting posted on youtube (but wanting the videos not to be posted elsewhere and has disabled the embed code to post on various web sites.) So he may be easing off on them. I think it is a GREAT decision. I have always been a supporter of youtube and if radio doesn’t play your stuff or MTV is too busy showing an episode of the Hills, youtube is an amazing promotional tool. What do you guys think of this decision? I don’t really care if it took Youtube to pay Prince, just glad he is open to the usage of it.-Dr.FB [Edited 9/13/09 22:00pm] yeah i think promo of lotusflow3r would be good on youtube i think chocolate box love would get a few new fans in I agree. I'm all about Prince bringing his proudct out there for EVERYONE to have access to, not just the faithful few. I won't lie, I don't like the vid, but it should be put there because he did it so I hope it happens soon. We'll see. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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sometimes i wonder if lotusflow3r.com wasn't just an act of self-sabotage on prince's part, done in response to pressures from outside forces to have an online marketing presence for the new album. it's almost as if this latest web venture was created to turn fans off from ever wanting to join another prince P2P site again. he's had a pretty salty view of the internet over the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me at all if this were his way of intentionally burning a bridge with regards to online ventures in years to come. | |
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Shorty said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: In all honesty, I'm happy that newbies are discovering Prince and something beneficial to them with his newest ventures. I've ALWAYS wanted that for him and them. Which is why I continued to support him and his endeavors even when they were not exactly beneficial to me. Had it not been for the support of us old-timers when things weren't all that damn Paisley for Prince, where would the newbies be? Not interested in Prince in any way whatsoever because he would not have survived the 90's and early '00's without us! There would have been no resurgence of Prince in 2004 because he would have just been a footnote of the '80's in the overpowering shadows of Michael and Madonna! If you think I'm just a hater, spitting venom, don't take my word for it. Look at the fully verifiable statistics and add the shit up! Liars may figure but figures do not lie!
. [Edited 9/15/09 23:57pm] pah! yeah...he owes it all to us old timers! if it weren't for us he'd be nowhere! You've GOT to be kidding me with this arguement? ahh yeah...I guess, if it weren't for people in general liking his music he'd not have had the sucess he's had but geez you make it sound like he woulda just dropped off the face of the earth with out "US" sticking with him through the 90's and 00's and that is just SILLY! Prince continues to gain new fans to this day. Before anyone knew who he was through his least popular times, he has always gained new fans due to his talent, and personality (be it good or bad) To say there would be no newbies if we hadn't stuck with him is ridiculous. Oh please! From 1994 through 1999 "people in general" thought Prince was just plain fucking bat shit crazy and when he wasn't in the tabloids, for the most part ignored him. From 2000 to 2004, they thought he was dead. If you don't believe me, Google the day after his Grammy performance with Beyonce and look at the astonishment that he was 1. Still alive and 2. Could still get down. When "people in general" were talking about his "comeback", we were the ones that KNEW and were SAYING, "He never went any damn where!"
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Anxiety said: sometimes i wonder if lotusflow3r.com wasn't just an act of self-sabotage on prince's part, done in response to pressures from outside forces to have an online marketing presence for the new album. it's almost as if this latest web venture was created to turn fans off from ever wanting to join another prince P2P site again. he's had a pretty salty view of the internet over the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me at all if this were his way of intentionally burning a bridge with regards to online ventures in years to come.
disagree as he had , as usual, a good amount of initial hype and big ideas[NPG TV anyone!] with the press and fans. Then of course the predictable happened i.e. he just got our money and then got bored! | |
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