EmancipationLover said: Why is it our business if youtube wants to pay Prince some money? If ANY kind of deal was reached to get Prince videos up on youtube, it would be fine by me, and if these youtube dumbasses should be willing to pay Prince 1,000,000,000 $ for it, it surely ain't my business.
Other than that, the whole Prince vs. youtube thingy smells like this to me: and wat smell is that? If this deal is true then great! If it ain't...oh well Like I always say, youtube ain't the only website on the face of the internet I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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NouveauDance said: Prince could've had all the 'worldwide exposure' YouTube offers by just letting users post his videos in the first place, or having an official Prince YouTube channel where he can get one of his underlings to post them. This was just about $$$.
---- So what if it is about money.Radio stations pay a fee to play music why should YOUTUBE get a pass. Why would anyone give their property away for free? | |
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jseven said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: by threatening a baby. what a brave man! . [Edited 9/14/09 16:02pm] That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. My God, that confirmed what I always believed to be true. I never thought that Prince was behind that. I just wish he had come out and issued a statement letting it be known that he wasn't for that but even if he did, people wouldn't believe him. Still glad to know that he wasn't down with that. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: jseven said: That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. My God, that confirmed what I always believed to be true. I never thought that Prince was behind that. I just wish he had come out and issued a statement letting it be known that he wasn't for that but even if he did, people wouldn't believe him. Still glad to know that he wasn't down with that. ----- That is why he did not put out a statement. No one would believe any thing he had to say about it and I think since he signed a publishing deal with Universal I doubt he could do anything about whatever legal action they take outside of leaving them when the deal expires. What Universal should have been doing was working to collect money from YOUTUBE instead of going after indivuauls. Anywhy it looks like someting has been worked out so I guess we can all move on with our lives. | |
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laurarichardson said: NouveauDance said: Prince could've had all the 'worldwide exposure' YouTube offers by just letting users post his videos in the first place, or having an official Prince YouTube channel where he can get one of his underlings to post them. This was just about $$$.
---- So what if it is about money.Radio stations pay a fee to play music why should YOUTUBE get a pass. Why would anyone give their property away for free? It's not about "giving away" their property.Look at what the artists are gaining by being on Youtube.Their music is getting promoted and reaching a wide audience.The video channels don't give a shit about music videos anymore.YouTube has filled that void.It's a win-win situation for all involved. .. [Edited 9/15/09 6:34am] | |
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purplecam said: jseven said: That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. My God, that confirmed what I always believed to be true. I never thought that Prince was behind that. I just wish he had come out and issued a statement letting it be known that he wasn't for that but even if he did, people wouldn't believe him. Still glad to know that he wasn't down with that. Prince coming out 2 make a statement would be pointless. Let people believe what ever they wish 2..... | |
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SoulAlive said: laurarichardson said: ---- So what if it is about money.Radio stations pay a fee to play music why should YOUTUBE get a pass. Why would anyone give their property away for free? It's not about "giving away" their property.Look at what the artists are gaining by being on Youtube.Their music is getting promoted and reaching a wide audience.The video channels don't give a shit about music videos anymore.YouTube has filled that void.It's a win-win situation for all involved. .. [Edited 9/15/09 6:34am] I agree. On the other hand, if someone doesn't want to have this kind of promotion or ranks full artistic control over youtube presence or simply isn't willing to realize the obvious, then it's their business imo. No one should be forced to only make decisions being positive for them instead of being responsible for what they're doing. | |
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If this is true Prince has just done the same deal as the record companies with YouTube.....well done Prince ...good business i say! Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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jseven said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: by threatening a baby. what a brave man! . [Edited 9/14/09 16:02pm] That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. Thank GOD for you J7! hows about that supa? put that in your pipe and smoke it! "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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jseven said: I think we lost sight of what is important here.....
can we go back to shorty sucking ass? Sounds interesting to me. Will it be on youtube? Thanks! perv! put me back on the txt list please! "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: BSK3478 said: biting the hands that feed him then crying foul wasn't on the piece of paper he read from. probably scribbled it on an empty space in the margin at one point. the excuse of "but that's how he is" ain't cutting it. IT AINT fambots would be dragging out this excuse if Prince defficated, then smeared it on himself as a natural leotard. Oh well, you know how he is, he always does things his way. What a maverick! What an indictment on our country and culture. These are the same type of minded people that even gave Sarah Palin a chance in hell of being the next in line to run this cuntry. . [Edited 9/14/09 18:58pm] name calling and finger pointing does NOT become you supa. You come off as a bully. IMO you should steer away from this type of behavoir at your age. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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If anyone should get paid it is P
Again, he finds away to get paid for his art look for others to try to follow suit..... Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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GREAT
finally his music can get more exposure there was nooo good point why he shouldnt have had them on in the first place other than money | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: IT AINT fambots would be dragging out this excuse if Prince defficated, then smeared it on himself as a natural leotard. Oh well, you know how he is, he always does things his way. What a maverick! What an indictment on our country and culture. These are the same type of minded people that even gave Sarah Palin a chance in hell of being the next in line to run this cuntry. . [Edited 9/14/09 18:58pm] name calling and finger pointing does NOT become you supa. You come off as a bully. IMO you should steer away from this type of behavoir at your age. I couldn't agree with you more Shorty. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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However, what one can learn from this thread is that there are people who think that not having the "Gangsta Glam" video available on youtube is as bad as having Sarah Palin sitting in the White House... | |
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lezama said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Yeah, let's kiss Prince's ass til it bleeds not his ass, he's only the vehicle that produces the objects, the asses of which i kiss. Ok Dagny Taggert The funny thing is that Nader fought for consumer protections and I'm sure if you laid out the argument before him, he would agree Prince is abusing his power by threatening a civilian who is sharing a video of her baby dancing to music. That psycho applied monetary value to that as if ANYBODY owed him a goddamn penny for someone posting their personal life. The laws might be in his favor, but the probability is that he, like many other wealthy individuals wield power just from the fact they have the resources to do so. Prince has money, web sherriff and a bunch of deluded fams in his corner even before you get to the legal arguments. That woman is likely living an average middle class life and doesn't have the money to spend fighting an OBVIOUS ABUSE. I wish we could ask Nader about this 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Mindflux said: jseven said: That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. But, that's ok with Supa, cos he constantly ignores the blatant facts and just blames Prince for it all anyway. It was pointed out earlier on in this thread (and many others have missed it - do you guys really not read the threads at all?!) that there is actually a general deal on behalf of all songwriters, not with Prince specifically and that Prince, as a member, can do NOTHING about. Prince had nothing to do with the youtube baby scandal and now has nothing to do with the YouTube deal.....but let's call him a cunt anyway! (queue the usual aggressive, self-important diatribe from Supa.....) agressive and self-important, thanks! If Prince feels this crap is so wrong he could PUBLICLY state so just the way he created PFunk to slam so called haters. He has the ability to issue a press release and or communicate with the fan sites to insure it is clear his hand is being forced. But that leads us to a bigger issue. If he is forced to do things he doesn't want to do WHY. DOESN'T. HE. USE. HIS. OWN. SITE. for the vision he wants to create? instead of being a visionary he'll go along with the same corporate forces that he spent a decade bitching over. give. me. a. break. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Shorty said: jseven said: That was actually UMG (Universal Music Publishing) and Prince was pissed at Universal about that. So much so, he said when his publishing contract was up with them, he would leave. Don't know if that happened but that was straight up lame n stupid over a 30 second clip of a song playing in the background. L A M E. Thank GOD for you J7! hows about that supa? put that in your pipe and smoke it! and yet, Prince allowed the belief to linger that he was behind it by not publicly clearing it up. More to the point, Prince came after the fansites himself. It wasn't some record label but web-sheriff employed and endorsed by Prince himself. It's not a stretch to think he was personally after that woman with the baby considering his representatives were demanding money from the sites simply for people showing their Prince inspired TATTOOS. So UMG is behind this, doesn't mean Prince can't stand for what is right, at least in writing. But he doesn't even do that. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: IT AINT fambots would be dragging out this excuse if Prince defficated, then smeared it on himself as a natural leotard. Oh well, you know how he is, he always does things his way. What a maverick! What an indictment on our country and culture. These are the same type of minded people that even gave Sarah Palin a chance in hell of being the next in line to run this cuntry. . [Edited 9/14/09 18:58pm] name calling and finger pointing does NOT become you supa. You come off as a bully. IMO you should steer away from this type of behavoir at your age. Oh well, hand me a bottle 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Why is it supposed to be Prince's duty to clear up any fantasy, speculation or rumor that so-called fans of him discuss somewhere? | |
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EmancipationLover said: Why is it supposed to be Prince's duty to clear up any fantasy, speculation or rumor that so-called fans of him discuss somewhere?
the story about prince allegedly suing the woman who posted the baby dancing on youtube wasn't just just speculation dreamed up by fans. it hit the mainstream media. AP. yahoo news. it was fodder for the water cooler at work. it's not just fan rumbling, it's considered common knowledge even among people who don't log in to the .org every day. in fact, the only "speculation" among fans was the possibility that prince in fact was NOT behind it, which is a possibility mainly offered by a gossip blog which may or may not be a front for prince's publicist. just sayin'. | |
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EmancipationLover said: Why is it supposed to be Prince's duty to clear up any fantasy, speculation or rumor that so-called fans of him discuss somewhere?
He doesn't. It is a slippery slope that NEVER ends. | |
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Anxiety said: EmancipationLover said: Why is it supposed to be Prince's duty to clear up any fantasy, speculation or rumor that so-called fans of him discuss somewhere?
the story about prince allegedly suing the woman who posted the baby dancing on youtube wasn't just just speculation dreamed up by fans. it hit the mainstream media. AP. yahoo news. it was fodder for the water cooler at work. it's not just fan rumbling, it's considered common knowledge even among people who don't log in to the .org every day. in fact, the only "speculation" among fans was the possibility that prince in fact was NOT behind it, which is a possibility mainly offered by a gossip blog which may or may not be a front for prince's publicist. just sayin'. Still, there is this idea that Prince was sitting on a throne, ordering people to take down this mom and go after her. The fact is, we don't know if it was Prince or his people going after that dancing baby. So the question remains: Why does Prince have to come out and clear up his business decisions? We don't know the whole story. Sure, either way, it makes Prince look like a dick, but does that mean he needs to explain himself. [Edited 9/15/09 11:04am] "New Power slide...." | |
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skywalker said: Anxiety said: the story about prince allegedly suing the woman who posted the baby dancing on youtube wasn't just just speculation dreamed up by fans. it hit the mainstream media. AP. yahoo news. it was fodder for the water cooler at work. it's not just fan rumbling, it's considered common knowledge even among people who don't log in to the .org every day. in fact, the only "speculation" among fans was the possibility that prince in fact was NOT behind it, which is a possibility mainly offered by a gossip blog which may or may not be a front for prince's publicist. just sayin'. Still, there is this idea that Prince was sitting on a throne, ordering people to take down this mom and go after her. The fact is, we don't know if it was Prince or his people going after that dancing baby. So the question remains: Why does Prince have to come out and clear up his business decisions? We don't know the whole story. Sure, either way, it makes Prince look like a dick, but does that mean he needs to explain himself. [Edited 9/15/09 11:04am] Why? Because you have a whole faction of fans who will burn the place down like Carrie's prom, that's why! Why allow things to get out of control and become total speculation when you have the power to clarify? It seems Prince wants to be seen as an irrational prick if that's the case 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: skywalker said: Still, there is this idea that Prince was sitting on a throne, ordering people to take down this mom and go after her. The fact is, we don't know if it was Prince or his people going after that dancing baby. So the question remains: Why does Prince have to come out and clear up his business decisions? We don't know the whole story. Sure, either way, it makes Prince look like a dick, but does that mean he needs to explain himself. [Edited 9/15/09 11:04am] Why? Because you have a whole faction of fans who will burn the place down like Carrie's prom, that's why! Why allow things to get out of control and become total speculation when you have the power to clarify? It seems Prince wants to be seen as an irrational prick if that's the case Or he simply doesn't give a flying fuck. | |
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EmancipationLover said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Why? Because you have a whole faction of fans who will burn the place down like Carrie's prom, that's why! Why allow things to get out of control and become total speculation when you have the power to clarify? It seems Prince wants to be seen as an irrational prick if that's the case Or he simply doesn't give a flying fuck. Then WHY. DO. YOU. Follow your God and shut up already, damn! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: skywalker said: Still, there is this idea that Prince was sitting on a throne, ordering people to take down this mom and go after her. The fact is, we don't know if it was Prince or his people going after that dancing baby. So the question remains: Why does Prince have to come out and clear up his business decisions? We don't know the whole story. Sure, either way, it makes Prince look like a dick, but does that mean he needs to explain himself. [Edited 9/15/09 11:04am] Why? Because you have a whole faction of fans who will burn the place down like Carrie's prom, that's why! Why allow things to get out of control and become total speculation when you have the power to clarify? It seems Prince wants to be seen as an irrational prick if that's the case puhhh lease! "get out of control" it should be a MINOR thing in anyone's life other than the mom perhaps....if this is something that gets your undies so bunched up your ass then perhaps it's YOU who should take a step back, take a deep breath and RELAX. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: EmancipationLover said: Or he simply doesn't give a flying fuck. Then WHY. DO. YOU. Follow your God and shut up already, damn! I. NEVER. SAID. I. DID. AND. WRITING. THIS. WAY. IS. REALLY. STRANGE. | |
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Shorty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Why? Because you have a whole faction of fans who will burn the place down like Carrie's prom, that's why! Why allow things to get out of control and become total speculation when you have the power to clarify? It seems Prince wants to be seen as an irrational prick if that's the case puhhh lease! "get out of control" it should be a MINOR thing in anyone's life other than the mom perhaps....if this is something that gets your undies so bunched up your ass then perhaps it's YOU who should take a step back, take a deep breath and RELAX. nev er Since prince supposedly comes here for entertainment, I'll give it to him! He needs to see there is part of the fanbase that isn't going to roll over and give him a free ride. You pay for this piece of ass! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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EmancipationLover said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Then WHY. DO. YOU. Follow your God and shut up already, damn! I. NEVER. SAID. I. DID. AND. WRITING. THIS. WAY. IS. REALLY. STRANGE. But you did it! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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