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Reply #330 posted 09/18/09 7:28am

laurarichardso
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porfyrivrohi said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Says the queen of bitchood falloff

I didn't pay one red cent to join Lotusfail! biggrin


BUT, you are boring the fuck out of most of the sane members of this board with your non-stop bitching nonetheless... slam

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Reply #331 posted 09/18/09 8:14am

Efan

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bsk3601 said:



Same reasons, I didn't join... It's still amazing at the number of supposedly "old-school" fans who have the nerve to be pissed after the ever-so-consistent Prince track record. lol

You're right. If I may add, it's odd to me that a lot of people who are doing the most complaining about the site are those who haven't joined it. Why does it matter so much to those people if they aren't a part of the situation? It's not like they can do anything to change it cause they're not involved. Some of them have this "I'm better than you" type of attitude because they didn't join and it's totally uncalled for. If the tables were turned, I wouldn't do that to you, so why do that to me or anyone else who did join?


I'm seriously confused by this belief. Apparently, if you joined the site, you have no right to complain because you should have known what you were getting into. And if you didn't join, you have no right to complain because it doesn't concern you--even if you didn't join because you knew it would be a ripoff. So absolutely no one has a right to complain about anything at all.

I'm not buying into that.
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Reply #332 posted 09/18/09 8:33am

RodeoSchro

Serena said:

Do you have any boots, Tremolina? If so, consider the $77 your payment to him for those. thumbs up!


Actually, those that paid $77 and didn't get what they paid for are more likely to see bootlegs as more attractive now.

I am sure some didn't buy bootlegs out of respect for Prince and fairness, but now that they've been disrespected to this extent, that reluctance to buy bootlegs because of the principle behind it is gone.

In fact, I am 100% positive that is the case. In some instances.
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Reply #333 posted 09/18/09 8:54am

laurarichardso
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Efan said:

purplecam said:


You're right. If I may add, it's odd to me that a lot of people who are doing the most complaining about the site are those who haven't joined it. Why does it matter so much to those people if they aren't a part of the situation? It's not like they can do anything to change it cause they're not involved. Some of them have this "I'm better than you" type of attitude because they didn't join and it's totally uncalled for. If the tables were turned, I wouldn't do that to you, so why do that to me or anyone else who did join?


I'm seriously confused by this belief. Apparently, if you joined the site, you have no right to complain because you should have known what you were getting into. And if you didn't join, you have no right to complain because it doesn't concern you--even if you didn't join because you knew it would be a ripoff. So absolutely no one has a right to complain about anything at all.

I'm not buying into that.

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You have a right to complain if you are not happy with the site but you should be doing something about it not ranting on a message board week after week.

If the complaining is to inform other fans I think that goal has been accomplished.

What good does the complaining do to solve your problem? And why do those of us who did not give P $77.00 have to keep reading about it.

I use to like coming to this board but at this point no thread goes without some bitching about the website. When you add the website bitching to the other nosense that goes on it is beyond the level of ridculous.
[Edited 9/18/09 17:22pm]
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Reply #334 posted 09/18/09 9:05am

Efan

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laurarichardson said:

Efan said:



I'm seriously confused by this belief. Apparently, if you joined the site, you have no right to complain because you should have known what you were getting into. And if you didn't join, you have no right to complain because it doesn't concern you--even if you didn't join because you knew it would be a ripoff. So absolutely no one has a right to complain about anything at all.

I'm not buying into that.

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You have a right to complain if you are not happy with the site but you should be doing something about it not ranting on a message board week after week.

If the complaining is to inform other fans I think that goal has been accomplished.

What good does the complaining do to solve your problem? And why do those of us who did not give P $77.00 have to keep reading about it.

I use to like coming to this board but at this point no thread goes without some bitching about the website. When you had the website bitching to the other nosense that goes on it is beyond the level of ridculous.



You have a right to complain if you are not happy about the posts on Prince.org but you should be doing something about it, not ranting on this message board week after week.

Just saying.
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Reply #335 posted 09/18/09 9:19am

Serena

RodeoSchro said:


Actually, those that paid $77 and didn't get what they paid for are more likely to see bootlegs as more attractive now.


If the year was up, then you could maybe say you didn't get what you paid for, but we're only half way through the deal at this point. So, that kind of makes the rationalization of buying boots as revenge, moot. He HAS put up music, videos and pictures, so he has provided content, just not as much as we might like.

I guess part of the difference in my thinking is that I'm honest about being in the wrong for maybe having certain items, so who am I to bitch about what he does? shrug
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Reply #336 posted 09/18/09 9:31am

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Efan said:

purplecam said:


You're right. If I may add, it's odd to me that a lot of people who are doing the most complaining about the site are those who haven't joined it. Why does it matter so much to those people if they aren't a part of the situation? It's not like they can do anything to change it cause they're not involved. Some of them have this "I'm better than you" type of attitude because they didn't join and it's totally uncalled for. If the tables were turned, I wouldn't do that to you, so why do that to me or anyone else who did join?


I'm seriously confused by this belief. Apparently, if you joined the site, you have no right to complain because you should have known what you were getting into. And if you didn't join, you have no right to complain because it doesn't concern you--even if you didn't join because you knew it would be a ripoff. So absolutely no one has a right to complain about anything at all.

I'm not buying into that.

I will clarify my post, if you joined the site and felt it wasn't all that for you, then who am I to stop you from complaining? I might join in with you. I guess I was just surprised that people weren't ready for the possibility of things going wrong with the site but I learned that that kind of thing happens. I am not trying to stop those who joined from complaining. I hope I'm clear with that.

As for fans who didn't join, I think I was clear with that. They can't change the situation that those who joined are in. I personally don't need them as my ally. It was my resposibility for joining. People will complain regardless of whether I, you or anyone else doesn't want them to but I don't see how their complaints can help make my situation any better.
[Edited 9/18/09 9:33am]
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Reply #337 posted 09/18/09 5:24pm

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Efan said:

laurarichardson said:


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You have a right to complain if you are not happy with the site but you should be doing something about it not ranting on a message board week after week.

If the complaining is to inform other fans I think that goal has been accomplished.

What good does the complaining do to solve your problem? And why do those of us who did not give P $77.00 have to keep reading about it.

I use to like coming to this board but at this point no thread goes without some bitching about the website. When you had the website bitching to the other nosense that goes on it is beyond the level of ridculous.



You have a right to complain if you are not happy about the posts on Prince.org but you should be doing something about it, not ranting on this message board week after week.

Just saying.

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I am doing something about it. I am have posted many suggestions of things people could do to get their money back in the hope that they do something and stop bitching.

I think my suggestions are a lot more helpful than the rants and bitching of the website complaniers.
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Reply #338 posted 09/18/09 5:26pm

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purplecam said:

Efan said:



I'm seriously confused by this belief. Apparently, if you joined the site, you have no right to complain because you should have known what you were getting into. And if you didn't join, you have no right to complain because it doesn't concern you--even if you didn't join because you knew it would be a ripoff. So absolutely no one has a right to complain about anything at all.

I'm not buying into that.

I will clarify my post, if you joined the site and felt it wasn't all that for you, then who am I to stop you from complaining? I might join in with you. I guess I was just surprised that people weren't ready for the possibility of things going wrong with the site but I learned that that kind of thing happens. I am not trying to stop those who joined from complaining. I hope I'm clear with that.

As for fans who didn't join, I think I was clear with that. They can't change the situation that those who joined are in. I personally don't need them as my ally. It was my resposibility for joining. People will complain regardless of whether I, you or anyone else doesn't want them to but I don't see how their complaints can help make my situation any better.
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"don't see how their complaints can help make my situation any better."

Complaints with no action never make anything better
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Reply #339 posted 09/18/09 5:43pm

Vendetta1

laurarichardson said:

Efan said:




You have a right to complain if you are not happy about the posts on Prince.org but you should be doing something about it, not ranting on this message board week after week.

Just saying.

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I am doing something about it. I am have posted many suggestions of things people could do to get their money back in the hope that they do something and stop bitching.

I think my suggestions are a lot more helpful than the rants and bitching of the website complaniers.
ALL you do is bitch and complain about complainers. Why don't you do something about that and stop? You make a bad situation worse.
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Reply #340 posted 09/18/09 6:00pm

xlr8r

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these pretzels are making me thirsty
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Reply #341 posted 09/18/09 6:10pm

Genesia

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xlr8r said:

these pretzels are making me thirsty


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Reply #342 posted 09/18/09 7:26pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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laurarichardson said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Says the queen of bitchood falloff

I didn't pay one red cent to join Lotusfail! biggrin

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Then stop talking about it if you did not pay for it. The only queen of bitchhood on this board is you. You bitch and morn about P dismantling his fanbase while he continues to sell CDs and put money in his pocket none of which has any bearing on your life.

Now why don't you go and eat dinner I think your mom is calling you.

What a compliment! lol
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Reply #343 posted 09/19/09 11:25pm

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Anxiety said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:


Well, Anx. See I didn't join Lostusflow3r because I had my doubts over what it would and would not be. I love Prince, but what was being offered (and based on his past history with websites) I was not throwing away my money. And given the fact that I could get the album for $12.00 at Target there was no reason for me to invest $77 in this venture. So I didn't lose a damn thing.

And the fact that the press release focused mainly on the offering of pics and videos and one-off concert stops, I got the hint that members would not be getting loads of actual downloadble music. So yeah, for those long time fans that know how he rolls with this type of stuff, it is on you. Now, for the newbies who didn't know any better yeah it sucks. But then again all they needed to do was read one of the many, many posts of fans who gave detailed reasons why they would not join and they too could have saved themselves $77.
lol


It's only "on me" inasmuch as the saying "buyer beware" applies. To be honest, in previous incarnations of Prince's pay-to-play web site ventures, I always felt like I got my money's worth, regardless of whether or not we actually got all the stuff he hinted at during interviews and pre-launch hype, so I felt there could be a 50/50 chance that LF.com could actually be something worth joining. I was fully prepared for the 50% chance that the site could turn out to be a big lemon...which, of course, it was.

Taking that gamble was the only thing that was "on me", and I accepted that risk from the moment I clicked forked over my $77. That Prince can't be bothered to follow through on the site, and that he can't respond to the overwhelming dissatisfaction from his fans regarding the site by offering some meager trifle of content is on HIM, and it reflects on the amount of respect he has for his fans.

If I paid my money and I didn't like what I got, I don't think it's at all inappropriate for me to return to an independent fan forum like this site and share my opinion with those who are on the fence about joining the site. There's absolutely no reason to join, and if someone could put their $77 to use in a better way, they should. I was lucky. I still had plenty of tax return money and I could afford the gamble at the time. And I got played by Prince. Oh well. NOW I can say "never again".



i miss you already! sad
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Reply #344 posted 09/20/09 12:29am

Snake

GMAN2000 said:

nurseV said:




lol Yes sir highfive


HERE's an IDEA:

Maybe 'Prince' can start putting his own music videos on his OWN WEBSITE first?

Thus promoting his MUSIC.....

Then put them on Youtube second.....?

Gesssssh!, WHAT A BRILLANT IDEA!

LOLOLOLOLOL!
GMAN


I AGREE! BUT IF HE DID, HE'D MAKE US PAY! U TUBE IS FREE!
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #345 posted 09/20/09 3:21am

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OK. I think I found the thread that broke the org.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #346 posted 09/20/09 7:58am

Vendetta1

errant said:

Anxiety said:



It's only "on me" inasmuch as the saying "buyer beware" applies. To be honest, in previous incarnations of Prince's pay-to-play web site ventures, I always felt like I got my money's worth, regardless of whether or not we actually got all the stuff he hinted at during interviews and pre-launch hype, so I felt there could be a 50/50 chance that LF.com could actually be something worth joining. I was fully prepared for the 50% chance that the site could turn out to be a big lemon...which, of course, it was.

Taking that gamble was the only thing that was "on me", and I accepted that risk from the moment I clicked forked over my $77. That Prince can't be bothered to follow through on the site, and that he can't respond to the overwhelming dissatisfaction from his fans regarding the site by offering some meager trifle of content is on HIM, and it reflects on the amount of respect he has for his fans.

If I paid my money and I didn't like what I got, I don't think it's at all inappropriate for me to return to an independent fan forum like this site and share my opinion with those who are on the fence about joining the site. There's absolutely no reason to join, and if someone could put their $77 to use in a better way, they should. I was lucky. I still had plenty of tax return money and I could afford the gamble at the time. And I got played by Prince. Oh well. NOW I can say "never again".



i miss you already! sad
I miss him, too. bawl
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Reply #347 posted 09/20/09 8:06am

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squirrelgrease said:

OK. I think I found the thread that broke the org.


It's been broke since 2001. biggrin
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Reply #348 posted 09/21/09 8:13am

Ifsixwuz9

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Anxiety said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:


Well, Anx. See I didn't join Lostusflow3r because I had my doubts over what it would and would not be. I love Prince, but what was being offered (and based on his past history with websites) I was not throwing away my money. And given the fact that I could get the album for $12.00 at Target there was no reason for me to invest $77 in this venture. So I didn't lose a damn thing.

And the fact that the press release focused mainly on the offering of pics and videos and one-off concert stops, I got the hint that members would not be getting loads of actual downloadble music. So yeah, for those long time fans that know how he rolls with this type of stuff, it is on you. Now, for the newbies who didn't know any better yeah it sucks. But then again all they needed to do was read one of the many, many posts of fans who gave detailed reasons why they would not join and they too could have saved themselves $77.
lol


It's only "on me" inasmuch as the saying "buyer beware" applies. To be honest, in previous incarnations of Prince's pay-to-play web site ventures, I always felt like I got my money's worth, regardless of whether or not we actually got all the stuff he hinted at during interviews and pre-launch hype, so I felt there could be a 50/50 chance that LF.com could actually be something worth joining. I was fully prepared for the 50% chance that the site could turn out to be a big lemon...which, of course, it was.

Taking that gamble was the only thing that was "on me", and I accepted that risk from the moment I clicked forked over my $77. That Prince can't be bothered to follow through on the site, and that he can't respond to the overwhelming dissatisfaction from his fans regarding the site by offering some meager trifle of content is on HIM, and it reflects on the amount of respect he has for his fans.

If I paid my money and I didn't like what I got, I don't think it's at all inappropriate for me to return to an independent fan forum like this site and share my opinion with those who are on the fence about joining the site. There's absolutely no reason to join, and if someone could put their $77 to use in a better way, they should. I was lucky. I still had plenty of tax return money and I could afford the gamble at the time. And I got played by Prince. Oh well. NOW I can say "never again".



I have no problem with your stance on this. I was just pointing out in general (not you specifically or anyone else in particular) that people who are long time fans of Prince and know the odds are 50/50 are surprised at the outcome.
As I said in my post, it was pretty much stated point blank in the press release what the site would focus on: pics, videos, one-off concert stops. And I agree other incarnations of the "music club" have been better prensented and executed. Also if I recall I said in my post that any newbies that didn't know the score need only read the many, many posts to see that they would likely be disappointed in what they got for their money.

And ...and as much a bruhaha as was made over him not letting his videos be posted on Youtube, now folks are mad because he may have come to agreement where they can be showed on Youtube. All because it seems the fact he was not being compensated by Youtube was the big attraction to having them there. Now that he may being getting something other than a little free pub via YouTube fans have an issue with it.

As for folks being angered because they paid to view material that could show up on Youtube (or other free sites or boots) -- welll this has been the case with every single incarnation of the his websites. The only difference is that instead of bootleggers or disgruntled fans throwing up material others paid for it's P himself. As far I can tell people are still getting screwed, but no one cared that fans were screwing them over and many applauded it.
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Reply #349 posted 09/21/09 9:06am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

laurarichardson said:


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Then stop talking about it if you did not pay for it. The only queen of bitchhood on this board is you. You bitch and morn about P dismantling his fanbase while he continues to sell CDs and put money in his pocket none of which has any bearing on your life.

Now why don't you go and eat dinner I think your mom is calling you.

What a compliment! lol

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It is not a compliment if you are over 30 and still living at home and your need your mom to cook for you. eek
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Reply #350 posted 09/21/09 9:08am

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Vendetta1 said:

laurarichardson said:


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I am doing something about it. I am have posted many suggestions of things people could do to get their money back in the hope that they do something and stop bitching.

I think my suggestions are a lot more helpful than the rants and bitching of the website complaniers.
ALL you do is bitch and complain about complainers. Why don't you do something about that and stop? You make a bad situation worse.

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Go back and try reading my post above. I have tried to help the bitchers and complainers and your free not to read my post as I don't intend to stop letting the bitchers and complainers know how ridiculous they are.



Know go and practice your reading skills.
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Reply #351 posted 09/21/09 9:33am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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laurarichardson said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


What a compliment! lol

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It is not a compliment if you are over 30 and still living at home and your need your mom to cook for you. eek

falloff My mom hasn't cooked for me since I left home at 21! biggrin You can try and slam me all you want, it's one thing to be shiftless living on mom's couch and another helping to raise your sister's 4 kids. Your delusions do not change the facts lol

Coming from the head C at U of B, I am still complimented! lol
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Reply #352 posted 09/21/09 9:44am

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What would Anx say at a time like this? Probably something like this:



and this lock
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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