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Thread started 09/13/09 1:40pm

DamnUSexyMf

would u like 2 see prince do a grime trip hop drum & bass album

Would u like 2 see prince do a grime trip hop drum and bass album?
me personally i would cuz i believe he is capable of it.
what better way 2 create a new audience.
dance on from lovesexy was early drum and bass.
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Reply #1 posted 09/13/09 5:44pm

SavonOsco

As much as I love D&B...I wouldn't want that.I have plenty of D&B remixes of his songs that are hot...but done by producers of that genre.If he let actual D&B producers do the music then cool,but this would never happen..I'm just breathing some life into the thread
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Reply #2 posted 09/13/09 5:54pm

mrsquirrel

i dunno, 'Frontline' by Newham Generals was better 'til they got Monk dishing out Church Leaflets. P must be too in love with love to lend a ear to Dizzee. If we compare and contrast The Cross to Fix Up Look Sharp. Similar instrumentation, completely different message.

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Reply #3 posted 09/13/09 7:06pm

NightwalkerDNB

SavonOsco said:

As much as I love D&B...I wouldn't want that.I have plenty of D&B remixes of his songs that are hot...but done by producers of that genre.If he let actual D&B producers do the music then cool,but this would never happen..I'm just breathing some life into the thread


You're right, i've had over 80 tracks out in drum & bass within 5 years and i've never seen anyone get to do a remix for someone big like that, just wouldn't happen, especially for american artists as most of them don't even know what d&b is. I've only seen remixes done of old rave tracks like by The Prodigy or obscure commercial stuff.
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Reply #4 posted 09/13/09 10:14pm

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NightwalkerDNB said:

SavonOsco said:

As much as I love D&B...I wouldn't want that.I have plenty of D&B remixes of his songs that are hot...but done by producers of that genre.If he let actual D&B producers do the music then cool,but this would never happen..I'm just breathing some life into the thread


You're right, i've had over 80 tracks out in drum & bass within 5 years and i've never seen anyone get to do a remix for someone big like that, just wouldn't happen, especially for american artists as most of them don't even know what d&b is. I've only seen remixes done of old rave tracks like by The Prodigy or obscure commercial stuff.

I'd like to see some remixes done by Alex Reece who remixed some Miles Davis stuff titled 'Rated X" that was pretty cool.
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Reply #5 posted 09/14/09 4:14am

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SavonOsco said:

As much as I love D&B...I wouldn't want that.I have plenty of D&B remixes of his songs that are hot...but done by producers of that genre.If he let actual D&B producers do the music then cool,but this would never happen..I'm just breathing some life into the thread



I dunno - one collaboration that would definitely work would be if Prince got in the studio with Tom Jenkinson aka Squarepusher, what a devastating combo that would be and would be much easier for Prince to connect with, given that Tom is such a fantastic musician (currently lauded by many, including myself, as the best bass player in the world today (and, I'd add to that that he is the finest electronica producer in the world and one of few who are really pushing the musical envelope)).

André3000 recently said that he was dying to hook up with Squarepusher and get a lesson on the studio! (tho, I think Andre may have blown that one with the naive statement about "just busting a computer open and making some music"!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Z0LL1SJ-6U eek


But, just watch Tom's bass solo at around 4:50 in - stunning!
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Reply #6 posted 09/14/09 5:01am

IAintTheOne

its 2009 kidz trip hop and drum & bass have been dead for years.....
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Reply #7 posted 09/14/09 6:18am

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My answer would a big NO! as drum and bass does nothing for me.




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Reply #8 posted 09/14/09 6:21am

Mindflux

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IAintTheOne said:

its 2009 kidz trip hop and drum & bass have been dead for years.....


Actually, no!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

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Reply #9 posted 09/14/09 6:21am

DamnUSexyMf

To I ain't that one
its 2009 kidz trip hop and drum & bass have been dead for years.....

music is timeless u can get inspiration from any decade
anyway i thoght prince could get some of the influences of these genere
and take it 2 another level.
some people say funk soul rock hip hop jazz etc is out of date but people r still makin those sounds. i see u got al green as your picture some would find that out of date.
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Reply #10 posted 09/14/09 10:12am

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I'm not keen on drum and bass and don't know what trip hop is.
I would take more bass and dance vibes but not the whole package, if I could choose. Dancing to only drum and bass is extremely difficult in my opinion. But some upbeat dance tracks, I'm always game. Like the chocolate box.
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #11 posted 09/14/09 11:36am

thebanishedone

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Al Green can never be out of date
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Reply #12 posted 09/14/09 3:41pm

lotusflw3r

Well trip hop is slowed down break beats with earie vocals (originally from Bristol UK). see Portishead or Massive Attack.

Drum n bass (Jungle) is fast sped up/chopped up break beats (chiefly 'Amen Brother' by The Winstons). Aswell as the James brown breaks Funky Drummer and Soul Pride.

see interesting if a little long investigation of Amen Brother-
http://www.youtube.com/wa...-0D66gmLgA

like trance music it's basically a creative cul-de-sac, not something prince should touch.
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Reply #13 posted 09/14/09 7:44pm

NightwalkerDNB

so many people assume that drum & bass is chopped up breaks and over-use of the amen break by the winstons, its a load of bollox, not true at all, back in the day jungle was like that, but drum & bass is completely different.
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Reply #14 posted 09/15/09 12:27am

Mindflux

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NightwalkerDNB said:

so many people assume that drum & bass is chopped up breaks and over-use of the amen break by the winstons, its a load of bollox, not true at all, back in the day jungle was like that, but drum & bass is completely different.


Indeed - lotusflw3r's post above is completely naive! What did you do - go to Wikipedia for that description?!

My d'n'b is nothing as described by that poster and neither is squarepusher, aphex twin, amon tobin and many others I could mention - creative cul-de-sac indeed!! Squarepusher's latest album has more musical ideas in one song than Prince has achieved in his last few albums!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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Reply #15 posted 09/15/09 3:48am

Christopher

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id love to see prince do a grime album.that would be hardcore
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Reply #16 posted 09/15/09 7:19am

DamnUSexyMf

Bohemian67 said:

I'm not keen on drum and bass and don't know what trip hop is.
I would take more bass and dance vibes but not the whole package, if I could choose. Dancing to only drum and bass is extremely difficult in my opinion. But some upbeat dance tracks, I'm always game. Like the chocolate box.


check out trickys album maxinquaye and pre millenium tension and massive attacks
blue lines, protection, mezzanine, 1000th window
they are old albums but are excellent albums.
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Reply #17 posted 09/15/09 7:23am

DamnUSexyMf

Mindflux said:

NightwalkerDNB said:

so many people assume that drum & bass is chopped up breaks and over-use of the amen break by the winstons, its a load of bollox, not true at all, back in the day jungle was like that, but drum & bass is completely different.


Indeed - lotusflw3r's post above is completely naive! What did you do - go to Wikipedia for that description?!

My d'n'b is nothing as described by that poster and neither is squarepusher, aphex twin, amon tobin and many others I could mention - creative cul-de-sac indeed!! Squarepusher's latest album has more musical ideas in one song than Prince has achieved in his last few albums!


I'll check out sqaurepusher. anyway are they better then grooverider ltj bukem
and roni size. i posted the thread cuz i believe prince need 2 take some heavey risks. Risque
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Reply #18 posted 09/15/09 11:33am

novabrkr

I'm pretty sure he doesn't own a single record that could be filed under the "grime" -genre definition.
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Reply #19 posted 09/16/09 6:56pm

Mindflux

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DamnUSexyMf said:

Mindflux said:



Indeed - lotusflw3r's post above is completely naive! What did you do - go to Wikipedia for that description?!

My d'n'b is nothing as described by that poster and neither is squarepusher, aphex twin, amon tobin and many others I could mention - creative cul-de-sac indeed!! Squarepusher's latest album has more musical ideas in one song than Prince has achieved in his last few albums!


I'll check out sqaurepusher. anyway are they better then grooverider ltj bukem
and roni size. i posted the thread cuz i believe prince need 2 take some heavey risks. Risque


Well, he's in a very different category of drum'n'bass to the 3 you mention (who I am also very fond of). But, he's light years ahead of those guys in terms of musical complexity, composition and taking music in new directions. And because of his "real instrument" virtuosity (rather than just being a studio whizz!), there would be a fantastic synergy between him and Prince.

Some of Squarepusher's music is not easy to listen to - but it is challenging, incredible music - if you really want Prince to take some "heavy risks", he could do no better than hooking up with Tom Jenkinson in my view.
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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Reply #20 posted 09/16/09 7:04pm

mrsquirrel

IAintTheOne said:

its 2009 kidz trip hop and drum & bass have been dead for years.....


well, it's how you feel on the outside that matters.

Tim Exile remix then.

Cx
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/09 7:31am

DamnUSexyMf

novabrkr said:

I'm pretty sure he doesn't own a single record that could be filed under the "grime" -genre definition.


yeah i know but is he capable of doing it with studio wizardly and live instruments. remains 2 be seen.
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Reply #22 posted 09/17/09 1:29pm

Bohemian67

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DamnUSexyMf said:

Bohemian67 said:

I'm not keen on drum and bass and don't know what trip hop is.
I would take more bass and dance vibes but not the whole package, if I could choose. Dancing to only drum and bass is extremely difficult in my opinion. But some upbeat dance tracks, I'm always game. Like the chocolate box.


check out trickys album maxinquaye and pre millenium tension and massive attacks
blue lines, protection, mezzanine, 1000th window
they are old albums but are excellent albums.


Thanks. Massive attack made a few songs which I didn't mind but I never liked it enough to buy it. I found mezzanine on youtube. It sounds loungy to me. I have enough of that music, in fact an overload. I want something outrageous, loud but groovy. Trip hop is therefore lighter than what it's name suggests. Drum and Bass/Jungle I find too panicky/dizzy making music...So nope Prince, don't follow this genre please. biggrin I want another "dearly beloved"
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #23 posted 09/17/09 1:36pm

DamnUSexyMf

Bohemian67 said:

DamnUSexyMf said:



check out trickys album maxinquaye and pre millenium tension and massive attacks
blue lines, protection, mezzanine, 1000th window
they are old albums but are excellent albums.


Thanks. Massive attack made a few songs which I didn't mind but I never liked it enough to buy it. I found mezzanine on youtube. It sounds loungy to me. I have enough of that music, in fact an overload. I want something outrageous, loud but groovy. Trip hop is therefore lighter than what it's name suggests. Drum and Bass/Jungle I find too panicky/dizzy making music...So nope Prince, don't follow this genre please. biggrin I want another "dearly beloved"


Some of trickys later albums r loud with guitars like angels with dirty faces
blowback & his last one it's punkish.
tricks pre millenium tension is somethin u never heard before.
on youtube type in pre millenium tension and see his live performances.
massive attack are r very rated buch of artist but i know it's not 4 everyone.
i thought prince can take it somewhere else.
princes dance with the devil is early trip hop. batman period
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Reply #24 posted 10/03/09 1:52pm

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NO!

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Reply #25 posted 10/03/09 2:05pm

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No Way.

Modern dance music has never been his thing.

Songs like Melt with U, Loose and Sleep around show he was always YEARS to late when it comes to 'grasping' what was actually happening in the dance-movement.

Next to that, his attempts at modern dance-music have mostly been very cheesy sounding.

Its just not his genre.
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Reply #26 posted 10/03/09 2:18pm

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Drum & What ?????

reading

lol
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Reply #27 posted 10/03/09 2:21pm

saafiir

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IAintTheOne said:

its 2009 kidz trip hop and drum & bass have been dead for years.....



No, Seriously Drum & What ?????

lol
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Reply #28 posted 10/05/09 8:13pm

Mindflux

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Riverpoet31 said:

No Way.

Modern dance music has never been his thing.

Songs like Melt with U, Loose and Sleep around show he was always YEARS to late when it comes to 'grasping' what was actually happening in the dance-movement.

Next to that, his attempts at modern dance-music have mostly been very cheesy sounding.

Its just not his genre.


That's just not really true though, is it?
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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Reply #29 posted 10/06/09 6:55am

purpledoveuk

DamnUSexyMf said:

Would u like 2 see prince do a grime trip hop drum and bass album?
me personally i would cuz i believe he is capable of it.
what better way 2 create a new audience.
dance on from lovesexy was early drum and bass.


I think Prince doesn't teLly understand as wide a range of music as perhaps we think....hear me out!!!

Take the prince album....jack of all trades master of none. When rave and techno were fashionable he tried his hand at those with the MNIP and Sexy Mf remixes, plus I wanna melt with u. Diluted reggae in Blue light, Breakbeats on Rave.

Really all Prince can master is ballads, guitar and funk, and now electropop drum machines,...everything else us just going thru the motions
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