tricky99 said: Rorywan said: I don't think its aimed at U Jen, (I hope not) sounds as if this thread is just on a major downer. In a glass half empty, hole in the doughnut kinda way. it wasn't. it was aimed at the initial post. my mistake, but I would think by what I said u would have figured that out jeez Then an apology would be fine, instead of another insult aimed in my direction, thanks! | |
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porfyrivrohi said: Jeffiner said: And again, I hope you're not responding to my post. Nothing I have said remotely indicates that I don't have a life without Prince, quite the opposite! I certainly hardly ever whinge about him or anything else. I'll assume that you are also responding to the thread starter. I was at a boat party in London recently celebrating Prince and having a great time, so I really don't know where you are coming from.... My impression was that tricky99 was in agreement with you. So I quoted you both because I liked the posts of BOTH of you. And that still stands even if tricky99 says otherwise. No, I don't think tricky99 is agreeing with anyone but him / herself But glad we're in agreement anyway. Hate things to get misinterpreted or misquoted y'know? | |
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tricky99 said: Rorywan said: I don't think its aimed at U Jen, (I hope not) sounds as if this thread is just on a major downer. In a glass half empty, hole in the doughnut kinda way. it wasn't. it was aimed at the initial post. my mistake, but I would think by what I said u would have figured that out jeez Well, didn't have time to read ALL your words of wisdom, and I would have thought you'd have figured out who you were supposed to be responding to in the first place! | |
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colm said: madhouseman said: Prince has done something that I never expected. He has left me bored. Just a little introduction to those who don’t know me. I was a writer and researcher for UPTOWN and have been a super fan of Prince for YEARS, but lately… he and I have had different paths. I can look through my CD collection and remember how much his music is the soundtrack for my adult life. I remember the date I had to Purple Rain, the girl at the Recka Stow that sold me SOTT (we ended up dating based on our mutual appreciation for Prince) and how I used to play his sexy songs to seduce the woman that became my wife, but somehow, Prince and I have not grown together. I still respect his art and his amazing artistry and would never tell the man what to do, but as a listener and a fan (oh sorry, FAM), I’ve stopped paying attention. I saw him in Vegas and he was amazing. It reminded me of when I used to be against the stage at GLAM SLAM LA back in the 90s, but I also saw him recently here in LA, and the stage set up looked like a high school dance decoration and his shtick hadn’t changed. He posed more than he performed. He was doing a greatest hits of his moves, but anyone who had seen him as much as I had knew that he was walking through it. His latest 3 disk set had so little memorable music on it, that I stopped listening to it after a few tries. It sits on the shelf next to his last several uninteresting disks… at least to me they are uninteresting and uninspired.
I used to want to hear every note, including the outtakes, but lately… it all blends into each other and I realized something important. Every album, every tour, every pronouncement is filled with the promise of greatness. Sadly, most of it goes unfulfilled. Yes he will occasionally do a Super Bowl show or Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show that blows us all away and reminds us of why he is indispensable to music, but the rest of the time it is largely a let down. I say this as someone who was right there during his biggest times and literally listening and watching every concert that was circulating. I say this as someone who thought the man could do no wrong (I defended UTCM for God’s sake!). I was an addict. Back then there was a buzz for him. There was a solid group of collectors who traded music, videos, memorabilia and scripts. I remember waiting for packages from all over the country and for my issue of Prince Family magazine. I remember trading for tapes (yes tapes) and looking for a version of a song I may have already had that was 1-2 generations better than what I already had. I miss that time, and realize that my life has gotten more complicated and my Prince habit went from a daily jam to checking out the Prince.org site ever few weeks, or even months. I realized that with the lawsuits, etc. goofy videos, cancelled plans, etc. that my interest in Prince has faded. His music went from erotic to erratic and (for me) sadly bland. If he was making groundbreaking music still, I could overlook how little respect he has for his fans, but he isn’t. He is cranking out music that he likes, but the songs don’t speak to me anymore. Again, I would never tell a talented artist like him how to make music, but I also don’t have any obligation to continue following him and I’ve realized that is what my interest in him is… obligatory. I can’t let go completely because I know that there is that amazing album or box set or something even better to come, but mostly… I am chasing a high and not getting the same buzz I used to get from his music. I know I am not the only person out there that hopes that Prince’s best days are ahead but wonders if they are mostly in the past. I also wonder if he knows it too. :thumbsup:Agreed. Unfortunately, Prince is turning into a Prince version of Elton John. [Edited 9/9/09 4:52am] I wanted 2 say...first off..that I allways apreciate an opinion of someone about prince..good or bad...just as long as it isn't disrespectful...I must say that I know where you have been as far as anticipation 4 waiting..4 the next high...for the unreleased..the outtake..4 when he played his soul out and transformed into pure light so we can breathe it in...I have allways deeply related to prince in such a emotional way..I couldn't have expressed myself more than him..as if he was my voice and reason....although I do love the lotusflow3r album..it does feel like he is not reflecting himself more so on a personal level as his other music...it isn't filled with all of those little faucets and details...never the less..I will enjoii any bit of prince over what is in rotation on the radio....I am sure..matter fact im POSITIVE!! That this isn't the end...it IS sad how he really doesn't give too much loove 2 his fans anymore..but really.....look arround.....do u really see THAT many of us giving him the true respect he deserves?? As prince allways said..he shows his appreciation through his music..and tries to stay clear of the negativity...I just hope we don't loose a good fan like u....keep ur hopes high... im sure prince has a lot more of funkay tricks up his sleeve Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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I think his music is still great. I for one am a bit tired of the "games". It was great fun but now's the time for MUSIC and PERFORMANCE and ENLIGHTENMENT.
Nothing else is needed to promote interest.....or create inticement [Edited 9/9/09 18:33pm] | |
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I'm also bored with Prince and have been for quite awhile now. I heard Lotusflower and MPLSOUND for about a week and never again. I didn't even bother with the third disc.
I was willing to forgive his whole, anti-fan, anti-youtube, JW bs. I saw One Nite Alone and love it and I'm a hardcore atheist. But, I think the turning point for me was Coachella, what? two summers ago? His Coachella set was a Vegas act and it was brutal to watch, especially coming on after Portishead who completely kicked ass. And before I get crucified by the fams, I have a life thank you, and I listen to all kinds of music and I will always respect and love the Prince music I grew up with but he's just boring to me these days. "...literal people are scary, man literal people scare me out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco | |
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tricky99 said: Rorywan said: I don't think its aimed at U Jen, (I hope not) sounds as if this thread is just on a major downer. In a glass half empty, hole in the doughnut kinda way. it wasn't. it was aimed at the initial post. my mistake, but I would think by what I said u would have figured that out jeez jeez? What does "jeez" mean? You mean like "fuck" or "shit" or "gawt damn"? You made a mistake, which u acknowledged. Cool.. But why should it be on Jennifer to "sort it out"? She doesn't have a right to come back with a defense if she felt she was being falsely judged? Sure she does. It's not on her to try to "figure it out". SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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madhouseman said: Genesia said: Ummmm...I don't think it's Prince's responsibility to keep you entertained.
But here's a suggestion. Head over to GD and read the "Do NOT vaccinate your kids" thread. Several minutes of fun (at least) in that one. [Edited 9/9/09 4:39am] I wasn't going to respond to this thread because I pretty much said what I was thinking and wanted to read the good and bad comments from everyone, but your post was the one that made me smile the biggest and left me with a huge question... If it isn't Prince's job to keep people (not just me) entertained, then what IS the job of an 'entertainer'? Aren't entertainers paid to... entertain? I always thought that Prince was an "artist". If you want to label someone merely an "entertainer" then give that to these preformed pop confections being blasted all over the radio or these thugged up hood heads who make it look like you rich on your first single. Prince definitely isn't in that category. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right. If P bores the shit out of the cat, then so be it. What I don't get is how people on here are so wrapped up into Prince that they can't stand one single thing that's said about him that's not favorable. Especially when it's opinion oriented. Which damn near ALL of the posts on here are based on. It's just opinions of different people. When someone is confident in their thoughts and their likes, TRULY confident, they don't ever get bent out of shape when someone else comments on something that differs from what they believe. It doesn't matter to them. Especially when it's someone else that they don't even know personally. If you are Right As Rain and excited over Prince in this time, then right on for you. How and why should that Rain Purple on yours or Chris's Tracy or Little Wendy's or your next door neighbor's Parade because someone else states that he just happens to be bored with Prince right now? It shouldn't. If you're TRULY confident in your thoughts and opinions that Prince strikes you harder than lightning, then cool. You wouldn't trip or careless about what somebody else thinks. Don't base your opinion on what everybody else thinks. You should be like "Fuck everybody else" and you think whatever it is that YOU think. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right. If P bores the shit out of the cat, then so be it. What I don't get is how people on here are so wrapped up into Prince that they can't stand one single thing that's said about him that's not favorable. Especially when it's opinion oriented. Which damn near ALL of the posts on here are based on. It's just opinions of different people. When someone is confident in their thoughts and their likes, TRULY confident, they don't ever get bent out of shape when someone else comments on something that differs from what they believe. It doesn't matter to them. Especially when it's someone else that they don't even know personally. If you are Right As Rain and excited over Prince in this time, then right on for you. How and why should that Rain Purple on yours or Chris's Tracy or Little Wendy's or your next door neighbor's Parade because someone else states that he just happens to be bored with Prince right now? It shouldn't. If you're TRULY confident in your thoughts and opinions that Prince strikes you harder than lightning, then cool. You wouldn't trip or careless about what somebody else thinks. Don't base your opinion on what everybody else thinks. You should be like "Fuck everybody else" and you think whatever it is that YOU think.
I think people are just tired of the whole "Prince hasn't done it for me sinceinsert year here crowd." Would anybody on here date someone who bored you for over a decade? Would you marry someone who hasn't excited you since the eighties? I used to be a big Billy Idol fan back when Rebel Yell and Whiplash Smile came out but then he got boring to me and I moved on. There are a lot of people on here who complain about how Prince does business, dealt with Youtube, chooses his proteges, his religion and the suit he wore at Montreux, etc. If someone annoys you that much then why be bothered with them? [Edited 9/9/09 19:04pm] When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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HonestMan13 said: blackguitaristz said: As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right. If P bores the shit out of the cat, then so be it. What I don't get is how people on here are so wrapped up into Prince that they can't stand one single thing that's said about him that's not favorable. Especially when it's opinion oriented. Which damn near ALL of the posts on here are based on. It's just opinions of different people. When someone is confident in their thoughts and their likes, TRULY confident, they don't ever get bent out of shape when someone else comments on something that differs from what they believe. It doesn't matter to them. Especially when it's someone else that they don't even know personally. If you are Right As Rain and excited over Prince in this time, then right on for you. How and why should that Rain Purple on yours or Chris's Tracy or Little Wendy's or your next door neighbor's Parade because someone else states that he just happens to be bored with Prince right now? It shouldn't. If you're TRULY confident in your thoughts and opinions that Prince strikes you harder than lightning, then cool. You wouldn't trip or careless about what somebody else thinks. Don't base your opinion on what everybody else thinks. You should be like "Fuck everybody else" and you think whatever it is that YOU think.
I think people are just tired of the whole "Prince hasn't done it for me sinceinsert year here crowd." Would anybody on here date someone who bored you for over a decade? Would you marry someone who hasn't excited you since the eighties? I used to be a big Billy Idol fan back when Rebel Yell and Whiplash Smile came out but then he got boring to me and I moved on. There are a lot of people on here who complain about how Prince does business, dealt with Youtube, chooses his proteges, his religion and the suit he wore at Montreux, etc. If someone annoys you that much then why be bothered with them? [Edited 9/9/09 19:04pm] Well, that's the same side of the coin of my post. My answer to what u stated would be to bounce. I KNOW I sure wouldn't be with a woman that was complaining about how I was making love to her. I would have been gone before she had a chance to put her panties back on. But that's just me. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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As usual I agree with you black.
The problem starts when people's choice of wording spills over from quite obviously being someone's personal opinion, to being almost presented as if it is fact. I'm not saying the OP here is doing that, but a lot of folks do and it's fucking tiring. I'm with HonestMan13 really though - what exactly is the point of making a thread about how Prince's music bores you? What kind of response are you looking to get from that? It's obviously not going to turn into an interesting discussion- you're gonna get people with an axe to grind against Prince for whatever reason who will agree just for the sake of it, and you're gonna get just as many loons who think Prince has never done a single thing wrong in his entire life throwing their 2 cents in. And somewhere in between those two crowds, you might get a handful of educated, honest, objective replies, but they'll inevitably get lost in the ensuing flame-war. I'm just trying to find out what the objective is here. If something that used to excite you is now boring you, go and find something else that does excite you. If you can't, perhaps life itself is boring to you, or perhaps you should have broadened your horizons a long time ago, so that if one thing stops doing it for you, you have plenty of other ways of keeping yourself entertained. No disrespect to madhouseman but I just don't see the purpose of making threads like this. |
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Bring forth the Prince! the lion of Judah I am not amused OFF WITH HIS HEAD When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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. [Edited 1/1/10 19:36pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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purplecam said: To Madhouseman and all the others who are "bored" with Prince right now, BOO HOO. If he's not doing it for you, then go and listen to someone else who is. You don't need to make a dramatic thread like this one to prove a point cause you wind up looking silly. Besides, this will NOT make Prince's music any better or any worse. I'm sorry but I can't be sympathic to those who choose to be bored or unhappy. You got people here who believe that they are going to hate his new music before it comes out and they've been doing that shit here for years. You're not getting a pat on the back from me. I don't do Pity Parties.
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Militant said: As usual I agree with you black.
The problem starts when people's choice of wording spills over from quite obviously being someone's personal opinion, to being almost presented as if it is fact. I'm not saying the OP here is doing that, but a lot of folks do and it's fucking tiring. I'm with HonestMan13 really though - what exactly is the point of making a thread about how Prince's music bores you? What kind of response are you looking to get from that? It's obviously not going to turn into an interesting discussion- you're gonna get people with an axe to grind against Prince for whatever reason who will agree just for the sake of it, and you're gonna get just as many loons who think Prince has never done a single thing wrong in his entire life throwing their 2 cents in. And somewhere in between those two crowds, you might get a handful of educated, honest, objective replies, but they'll inevitably get lost in the ensuing flame-war. I'm just trying to find out what the objective is here. If something that used to excite you is now boring you, go and find something else that does excite you. If you can't, perhaps life itself is boring to you, or perhaps you should have broadened your horizons a long time ago, so that if one thing stops doing it for you, you have plenty of other ways of keeping yourself entertained. No disrespect to madhouseman but I just don't see the purpose of making threads like this. That's all true too. For me, it's not about taking sides. I'm just on the ride that if someone DOES state that they are tired of P, then fine. THAT'S their opinion. Shouldn't shake u or upset u if you think otherwise. The cat stated what he felt and that's that. Example...If somebody got on here in THIS forum, like they usually do, saying how much they can't stand Hendrix, that shit isn't going to rock me. That doesn't change my love or opinion for the man. So somebody states in this forum that they hate Hendrix. My ONLY question to that is WHY they never take that shit over in Non Music where they wouldn't get the support that they'll get here?...Well, that tells u WHY they only talk that shit in THIS forum. Just post the thread in the right forum and don't be scared when everybody lines up against you. But either way, it doesn't bother me that they claim they personally don't dig Hendrix. I'm certainly not going to try to convince them otherwise. Same sentiment here. Somebody says he's bored with P, then he is. No skin off my back and certainly no black of me. [Edited 9/10/09 0:19am] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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You're bored with Prince? Well, welcome to the club. But what in the hell makes you think you're so special that you can just march up in here and jump to the head of the line? Take a number and take your ass to the end of the line because others were here before you. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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blackguitaristz said: Militant said: As usual I agree with you black.
The problem starts when people's choice of wording spills over from quite obviously being someone's personal opinion, to being almost presented as if it is fact. I'm not saying the OP here is doing that, but a lot of folks do and it's fucking tiring. I'm with HonestMan13 really though - what exactly is the point of making a thread about how Prince's music bores you? What kind of response are you looking to get from that? It's obviously not going to turn into an interesting discussion- you're gonna get people with an axe to grind against Prince for whatever reason who will agree just for the sake of it, and you're gonna get just as many loons who think Prince has never done a single thing wrong in his entire life throwing their 2 cents in. And somewhere in between those two crowds, you might get a handful of educated, honest, objective replies, but they'll inevitably get lost in the ensuing flame-war. I'm just trying to find out what the objective is here. If something that used to excite you is now boring you, go and find something else that does excite you. If you can't, perhaps life itself is boring to you, or perhaps you should have broadened your horizons a long time ago, so that if one thing stops doing it for you, you have plenty of other ways of keeping yourself entertained. No disrespect to madhouseman but I just don't see the purpose of making threads like this. That's all true too. For me, it's not about taking sides. I'm just on the ride that if someone DOES state that they are tired of P, then fine. THAT'S their opinion. Shouldn't shake u or upset u if you think otherwise. The cat stated what he felt and that's that. Example...If somebody got on here in THIS forum, like they usually do, saying how much they can't stand Hendrix, that shit isn't going to rock me. That doesn't change my love or opinion for the man. So somebody states in this forum that they hates Hendrix. My ONLY question to that is WHY they never take that shit over in Non Music where they wouldn't get the support that they'll get here,...Well, that tells u WHY they only talk that shit in THIS forum. Just post the thread in the right forum and don't be scared when everybody lines up against you. But either way, it doesn't bother me that they claim they personally don't dig Hendrix. I'm certainly not going to try to convince them otherwise. Same sentiment here. Somebody says he's bored with P, then he is. No skin off my back and certainly no black of me. [Edited 9/9/09 19:43pm] oh 4 sho. My thing is just that yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but what kinda discussion are people trying to ignite by posting this? Are they looking for other people that feel the same way just to validate their own opinion? Are they hoping that somebody'll tell em something that'll change their mind? I'm just not getting it. It doesn't seem entirely productive. If you take out the haters/obsessives/flamewars, this topic basically boils down to this: OP: I'm bored of Prince these days. Group A: We agree. We are also bored of Prince these days. Group B: We disagree. We are not bored of Prince these days. It's just pointless. A good topic IMO, are the ones you create, brother black. Things that kick facts that people might not know, but more so, opinions and experiences that people felt at different times. Actual discussions, theories, looking at things on more than the obvious levels. Those are the kind of threads we need more of. |
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HonestMan13 said: Bring forth the Prince! the lion of Judah I am not amused OFF WITH HIS HEAD I like you! I am but mad north-northwest
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I first heard Prince around '78 when I was 8 years old. Been a fan ever since. He has created some incredible shit , and was a big part of the soundtrack to my youth. I will continue to buy every thing that he releases , even though it doesnt give me the high that it did when I was 12, listening to 1999. But I can't really expect it to. I think his last few releases were good. He probably wont make another Lady Cab Driver, Adore or She's Always In My Hair , but damn who else from that era is still around at all - not to mention making quality music.
Basically im saying that im close to 40 and my responsiblities of work , family ,children etc etc really take priority over whether Prince makes me feel 8 or 9 years old again...nothin will. I just enjoy his old and new shit for what it is. | |
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jayquan said: He probably wont make another Lady Cab Driver, Adore or She's Always In My Hair , but damn who else from that era is still around at all - not to mention making quality music.
Even if he did, you wouldn't be able to listen with the excitement of a 9-year-old discovering the world, would you? C'est la vie... I am but mad north-northwest
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Militant said: blackguitaristz said: That's all true too. For me, it's not about taking sides. I'm just on the ride that if someone DOES state that they are tired of P, then fine. THAT'S their opinion. Shouldn't shake u or upset u if you think otherwise. The cat stated what he felt and that's that. Example...If somebody got on here in THIS forum, like they usually do, saying how much they can't stand Hendrix, that shit isn't going to rock me. That doesn't change my love or opinion for the man. So somebody states in this forum that they hates Hendrix. My ONLY question to that is WHY they never take that shit over in Non Music where they wouldn't get the support that they'll get here,...Well, that tells u WHY they only talk that shit in THIS forum. Just post the thread in the right forum and don't be scared when everybody lines up against you. But either way, it doesn't bother me that they claim they personally don't dig Hendrix. I'm certainly not going to try to convince them otherwise. Same sentiment here. Somebody says he's bored with P, then he is. No skin off my back and certainly no black of me. [Edited 9/9/09 19:43pm] oh 4 sho. My thing is just that yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but what kinda discussion are people trying to ignite by posting this? Are they looking for other people that feel the same way just to validate their own opinion? Are they hoping that somebody'll tell em something that'll change their mind? I'm just not getting it. It doesn't seem entirely productive. If you take out the haters/obsessives/flamewars, this topic basically boils down to this: OP: I'm bored of Prince these days. Group A: We agree. We are also bored of Prince these days. Group B: We disagree. We are not bored of Prince these days. It's just pointless. A good topic IMO, are the ones you create, brother black. Things that kick facts that people might not know, but more so, opinions and experiences that people felt at different times. Actual discussions, theories, looking at things on more than the obvious levels. Those are the kind of threads we need more of. I can dig it. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right. If P bores the shit out of the cat, then so be it. What I don't get is how people on here are so wrapped up into Prince that they can't stand one single thing that's said about him that's not favorable. Especially when it's opinion oriented. Which damn near ALL of the posts on here are based on. It's just opinions of different people. When someone is confident in their thoughts and their likes, TRULY confident, they don't ever get bent out of shape when someone else comments on something that differs from what they believe. It doesn't matter to them. Especially when it's someone else that they don't even know personally. If you are Right As Rain and excited over Prince in this time, then right on for you. How and why should that Rain Purple on yours or Chris's Tracy or Little Wendy's or your next door neighbor's Parade because someone else states that he just happens to be bored with Prince right now? It shouldn't. If you're TRULY confident in your thoughts and opinions that Prince strikes you harder than lightning, then cool. You wouldn't trip or careless about what somebody else thinks. Don't base your opinion on what everybody else thinks. You should be like "Fuck everybody else" and you think whatever it is that YOU think.
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blackguitaristz said: As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right.
And we gave him back our own opinion. That's our right as well. He knew that when he posted his opinion on a public forum. So what's the fuss? I am but mad north-northwest
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After reading this long post, I feel the same way...I only catch myself listening to his best albums from the past, how sad is that??
madhouseman said: Prince has done something that I never expected. He has left me bored. Just a little introduction to those who don’t know me. I was a writer and researcher for UPTOWN and have been a super fan of Prince for YEARS, but lately… he and I have had different paths. I can look through my CD collection and remember how much his music is the soundtrack for my adult life. I remember the date I had to Purple Rain, the girl at the Recka Stow that sold me SOTT (we ended up dating based on our mutual appreciation for Prince) and how I used to play his sexy songs to seduce the woman that became my wife, but somehow, Prince and I have not grown together. I still respect his art and his amazing artistry and would never tell the man what to do, but as a listener and a fan (oh sorry, FAM), I’ve stopped paying attention. I saw him in Vegas and he was amazing. It reminded me of when I used to be against the stage at GLAM SLAM LA back in the 90s, but I also saw him recently here in LA, and the stage set up looked like a high school dance decoration and his shtick hadn’t changed. He posed more than he performed. He was doing a greatest hits of his moves, but anyone who had seen him as much as I had knew that he was walking through it. His latest 3 disk set had so little memorable music on it, that I stopped listening to it after a few tries. It sits on the shelf next to his last several uninteresting disks… at least to me they are uninteresting and uninspired.
I used to want to hear every note, including the outtakes, but lately… it all blends into each other and I realized something important. Every album, every tour, every pronouncement is filled with the promise of greatness. Sadly, most of it goes unfulfilled. Yes he will occasionally do a Super Bowl show or Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show that blows us all away and reminds us of why he is indispensable to music, but the rest of the time it is largely a let down. I say this as someone who was right there during his biggest times and literally listening and watching every concert that was circulating. I say this as someone who thought the man could do no wrong (I defended UTCM for God’s sake!). I was an addict. Back then there was a buzz for him. There was a solid group of collectors who traded music, videos, memorabilia and scripts. I remember waiting for packages from all over the country and for my issue of Prince Family magazine. I remember trading for tapes (yes tapes) and looking for a version of a song I may have already had that was 1-2 generations better than what I already had. I miss that time, and realize that my life has gotten more complicated and my Prince habit went from a daily jam to checking out the Prince.org site ever few weeks, or even months. I realized that with the lawsuits, etc. goofy videos, cancelled plans, etc. that my interest in Prince has faded. His music went from erotic to erratic and (for me) sadly bland. If he was making groundbreaking music still, I could overlook how little respect he has for his fans, but he isn’t. He is cranking out music that he likes, but the songs don’t speak to me anymore. Again, I would never tell a talented artist like him how to make music, but I also don’t have any obligation to continue following him and I’ve realized that is what my interest in him is… obligatory. I can’t let go completely because I know that there is that amazing album or box set or something even better to come, but mostly… I am chasing a high and not getting the same buzz I used to get from his music. I know I am not the only person out there that hopes that Prince’s best days are ahead but wonders if they are mostly in the past. I also wonder if he knows it too. | |
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As much as I have listened to Prince, I'm glad he's never had the power to be able to control whether or not I was bored at any given time. | |
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HonestMan13 said: blackguitaristz said: As far as madhouseman giving his opinion,..that's his right. If P bores the shit out of the cat, then so be it. What I don't get is how people on here are so wrapped up into Prince that they can't stand one single thing that's said about him that's not favorable. Especially when it's opinion oriented. Which damn near ALL of the posts on here are based on. It's just opinions of different people. When someone is confident in their thoughts and their likes, TRULY confident, they don't ever get bent out of shape when someone else comments on something that differs from what they believe. It doesn't matter to them. Especially when it's someone else that they don't even know personally. If you are Right As Rain and excited over Prince in this time, then right on for you. How and why should that Rain Purple on yours or Chris's Tracy or Little Wendy's or your next door neighbor's Parade because someone else states that he just happens to be bored with Prince right now? It shouldn't. If you're TRULY confident in your thoughts and opinions that Prince strikes you harder than lightning, then cool. You wouldn't trip or careless about what somebody else thinks. Don't base your opinion on what everybody else thinks. You should be like "Fuck everybody else" and you think whatever it is that YOU think.
I think people are just tired of the whole "Prince hasn't done it for me sinceinsert year here crowd." Would anybody on here date someone who bored you for over a decade? Would you marry someone who hasn't excited you since the eighties? I used to be a big Billy Idol fan back when Rebel Yell and Whiplash Smile came out but then he got boring to me and I moved on. There are a lot of people on here who complain about how Prince does business, dealt with Youtube, chooses his proteges, his religion and the suit he wore at Montreux, etc. If someone annoys you that much then why be bothered with them? [Edited 9/9/09 19:04pm] Thank you! I'm glad someone here gets it. If I am bored with something or someone, I do what I have to do not to be bored by changing things up or leaving it altogether. I don't need to let the world in on it. Prince doesn't bore me. If he did, I wouldn't be here right now and I damn sure wouldn't start a thread about that. There's enough mess in this part of the site already, I wouldn't want to add anymore mess to this forum but that's me. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Militant said: As usual I agree with you black.
The problem starts when people's choice of wording spills over from quite obviously being someone's personal opinion, to being almost presented as if it is fact. I'm not saying the OP here is doing that, but a lot of folks do and it's fucking tiring. I'm with HonestMan13 really though - what exactly is the point of making a thread about how Prince's music bores you? What kind of response are you looking to get from that? It's obviously not going to turn into an interesting discussion- you're gonna get people with an axe to grind against Prince for whatever reason who will agree just for the sake of it, and you're gonna get just as many loons who think Prince has never done a single thing wrong in his entire life throwing their 2 cents in. And somewhere in between those two crowds, you might get a handful of educated, honest, objective replies, but they'll inevitably get lost in the ensuing flame-war. I'm just trying to find out what the objective is here. If something that used to excite you is now boring you, go and find something else that does excite you. If you can't, perhaps life itself is boring to you, or perhaps you should have broadened your horizons a long time ago, so that if one thing stops doing it for you, you have plenty of other ways of keeping yourself entertained. No disrespect to madhouseman but I just don't see the purpose of making threads like this. Me either. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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The natural order of life means priorities, viewpoints and interests change which has absolutely nothing to do with Prince. When you worked for UPTOWN, you were younger everything was probably exciting, fun and new.
Things change, find something enjoyable about his music, talent and distinguished career (there's alot of good music in the last several CDs) and don't forget to do the same for yourself and your life, you'll feel alot better. | |
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