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Thread started 10/30/09 9:06am

ronnwinter

Gold Experience songs per4med recently...

With the exception of Shh...Has Prince performed any song off the Gold Experience in recent years?
Especially Gold...I havent heard him perform that since 1995.

If not...Does anyone know why?
I can understand 319, P Control, Billy Jack Bitch...you know...the "bad songs".
But why not Shy, Gold, Endorphine Machine, I hate u etc etc.

Is this album a sore spot for Prince like Emancipation?
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Reply #1 posted 10/30/09 9:09am

renkitsune

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ronnwinter said:


Is this album a sore spot for Prince like Emancipation?


If it is I don't know why, it's one of my all-time favourites, I love every song smile
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Reply #2 posted 10/30/09 9:13am

ronnwinter

renkitsune said:

ronnwinter said:


Is this album a sore spot for Prince like Emancipation?


If it is I don't know why, it's one of my all-time favourites, I love every song smile

Yea, this is my #2 favorite album of his. Incredible!!!
Just thought maybe since it was a big part of the whole Warner fued and also kinda marked the end of his mainstream career for the following 10 years, that it may be a sore spot for him.
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Reply #3 posted 10/30/09 9:53am

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Why do you think Emancipation is a sore spot for Prince? I believe that's conjecture, not factual.

Prince forget what gems he has, and instead sticks to 90% of the same shit over and over and over.

When he started rearranging "Baby I'm A Star" into some Muzak elevator shit, I knew, more than ever, that boy had truly lost his edge at reinventing himself.

What would be sweet....I mean sweet to the point that I'd run through a mall butt naked to get a copy, is if he were to perform The Gold Experience, in full, front to back, live (the way Nine Inch Nails recently gave their fans the experience of a lifetime by performing The Downward Spiral in full, live). Can you even imagine THAT? Makes me wet just thinking about it.

Of course I dry right up when I realize who we're talking about.
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/09 9:59am

ronnwinter

ernestsewell said:

Why do you think Emancipation is a sore spot for Prince? I believe that's conjecture, not factual.

Prince forget what gems he has, and instead sticks to 90% of the same shit over and over and over.

When he started rearranging "Baby I'm A Star" into some Muzak elevator shit, I knew, more than ever, that boy had truly lost his edge at reinventing himself.

What would be sweet....I mean sweet to the point that I'd run through a mall butt naked to get a copy, is if he were to perform The Gold Experience, in full, front to back, live (the way Nine Inch Nails recently gave their fans the experience of a lifetime by performing The Downward Spiral in full, live). Can you even imagine THAT? Makes me wet just thinking about it.

Of course I dry right up when I realize who we're talking about.


The reason for Emancipation being a "sore spot" is because of it centering so much around Mayte. Lets Have a Baby, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife, Sex in the Summer..etc etc...Even the Album art work containing Mayte's pregnant belly.
Just figured thats why we never hear anything much from that album, if anything at all. Also, seems like I read something about it, but didnt know if it were true. Makes sense though.
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Reply #5 posted 10/30/09 10:19am

funkyhead

ernestsewell said:

Why do you think Emancipation is a sore spot for Prince? I believe that's conjecture, not factual.

Prince forget what gems he has, and instead sticks to 90% of the same shit over and over and over.

When he started rearranging "Baby I'm A Star" into some Muzak elevator shit, I knew, more than ever, that boy had truly lost his edge at reinventing himself.

What would be sweet....I mean sweet to the point that I'd run through a mall butt naked to get a copy, is if he were to perform The Gold Experience, in full, front to back, live (the way Nine Inch Nails recently gave their fans the experience of a lifetime by performing The Downward Spiral in full, live). Can you even imagine THAT? Makes me wet just thinking about it.

Of course I dry right up when I realize who we're talking about.

to be fair though he has successfully re-worked other older trax i.e. anotherlover, mountains etc, then again he has butchered others i.e. DMSR!.
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Reply #6 posted 10/30/09 10:36am

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ronnwinter said:

The reason for Emancipation being a "sore spot" is because of it centering so much around Mayte. Lets Have a Baby, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife, Sex in the Summer..etc etc...Even the Album art work containing Mayte's pregnant belly.
Just figured thats why we never hear anything much from that album, if anything at all. Also, seems like I read something about it, but didnt know if it were true. Makes sense though.


Those are all disk 2 songs too. There are two other disks to chose material from. Stuff like "Jam of the Year", "In this Bed I Scream", "Mr. Happy", or wtfever arent' Mayte centered songs. I don't think Emancipation is a sore spot for him anymore than singing "The Beautiful Ones" or "She's Always In My Hair" remind him of Susannah and Jill every time, respectively. Is singing "I Wanna Be Your Lover" a sore spot because he never got as far with Patrice Rushen as he wanted? Of course not. He recently sang "I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore", which is, as is a huge chunk of Rave Un2, a huge kiss off and goodbye to Mayte, yet he sang it anyway. Did he sing it to jab at her again? Of course not. He sang it because it's one he's not performed, and it worked live very well, and gave something different to the crowd that they weren't expecting.

SO much of Prince's music is super personal. That doesn't indicate, or assume, that it's all a sore spot for him. Hell, let's not forget we're talking about Prince here, Mr. "I Can Shove Stuff Down And Ignore Them Like They Never Existed". His split w/ Mayte, although based in infidelity, seemed to be a nicer split, more amicable, than perhaps the way other relationships ended.

After all, he did say, at the end of Rave Un2, "Wherever u go, whatever u do, just remember, I'll always be there 4 u."
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/09 10:40am

motherfunka

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ronnwinter said:

ernestsewell said:

Why do you think Emancipation is a sore spot for Prince? I believe that's conjecture, not factual.

Prince forget what gems he has, and instead sticks to 90% of the same shit over and over and over.

When he started rearranging "Baby I'm A Star" into some Muzak elevator shit, I knew, more than ever, that boy had truly lost his edge at reinventing himself.

What would be sweet....I mean sweet to the point that I'd run through a mall butt naked to get a copy, is if he were to perform The Gold Experience, in full, front to back, live (the way Nine Inch Nails recently gave their fans the experience of a lifetime by performing The Downward Spiral in full, live). Can you even imagine THAT? Makes me wet just thinking about it.

Of course I dry right up when I realize who we're talking about.


The reason for Emancipation being a "sore spot" is because of it centering so much around Mayte. Lets Have a Baby, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife, Sex in the Summer..etc etc...Even the Album art work containing Mayte's pregnant belly.
Just figured thats why we never hear anything much from that album, if anything at all. Also, seems like I read something about it, but didnt know if it were true. Makes sense though.


If you think about past live performances from 1996 on, he never really played much live from each new cd (4 or 5 songs = not much). Unlike prior to that he pretty much played all the songs live, except for songs from Graffiti Bridge. So to me that doesn't mean Emancipation is a "sore spot", if that's the case then you can say everything after Gold is a sore spot for him.
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Reply #8 posted 10/30/09 10:46am

ronnwinter

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ronnwinter said:



The reason for Emancipation being a "sore spot" is because of it centering so much around Mayte. Lets Have a Baby, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife, Sex in the Summer..etc etc...Even the Album art work containing Mayte's pregnant belly.
Just figured thats why we never hear anything much from that album, if anything at all. Also, seems like I read something about it, but didnt know if it were true. Makes sense though.


If you think about past live performances from 1996 on, he never really played much live from each new cd (4 or 5 songs = not much). Unlike prior to that he pretty much played all the songs live, except for songs from Graffiti Bridge. So to me that doesn't mean Emancipation is a "sore spot", if that's the case then you can say everything after Gold is a sore spot for him.

Good points... Oh well.. Just wish he would break out some Gold Experience stuff durig his concerts.
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Reply #9 posted 10/30/09 12:05pm

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I would love to see Gold and Space performed live! Two brilliant tracks.
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #10 posted 10/30/09 12:34pm

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Bohemian67 said:

I would love to see Gold and Space performed live! Two brilliant tracks.


If you can track down Glam Slam Miami June 7, 1994 you can find Space, long guitar intro. Ex quality. I don't recall Gold on any DVD boot, that has really good quality.
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/09 12:34pm

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Bohemian67 said:

I would love to see Gold and Space performed live! Two brilliant tracks.


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Reply #12 posted 10/30/09 12:38pm

BanishedBrian

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ronnwinter said:

The reason for Emancipation being a "sore spot" is because of it centering so much around Mayte. Lets Have a Baby, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife, Sex in the Summer..etc etc...Even the Album art work containing Mayte's pregnant belly.
Just figured thats why we never hear anything much from that album, if anything at all. Also, seems like I read something about it, but didnt know if it were true. Makes sense though.


Those are all disk 2 songs too. There are two other disks to chose material from. Stuff like "Jam of the Year", "In this Bed I Scream", "Mr. Happy", or wtfever arent' Mayte centered songs. I don't think Emancipation is a sore spot for him anymore than singing "The Beautiful Ones" or "She's Always In My Hair" remind him of Susannah and Jill every time, respectively. Is singing "I Wanna Be Your Lover" a sore spot because he never got as far with Patrice Rushen as he wanted? Of course not. He recently sang "I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore", which is, as is a huge chunk of Rave Un2, a huge kiss off and goodbye to Mayte, yet he sang it anyway. Did he sing it to jab at her again? Of course not. He sang it because it's one he's not performed, and it worked live very well, and gave something different to the crowd that they weren't expecting.

SO much of Prince's music is super personal. That doesn't indicate, or assume, that it's all a sore spot for him. Hell, let's not forget we're talking about Prince here, Mr. "I Can Shove Stuff Down And Ignore Them Like They Never Existed". His split w/ Mayte, although based in infidelity, seemed to be a nicer split, more amicable, than perhaps the way other relationships ended.

After all, he did say, at the end of Rave Un2, "Wherever u go, whatever u do, just remember, I'll always be there 4 u."

The one difference though is the loss of the baby. That's a level of emotional grief that's just on a completely different level. It was obvious the way he immediately set out to tour that year that he didn't properly grieve at the time, and it's entirely possible that it's something he still hasn't dealth with. So I could see where that particular time period (95-97) is one he chooses to forget, even if he can deal with the end of the relationship with Mayte a year or two later.
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Reply #13 posted 10/30/09 1:32pm

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Thanks Motherfunka.
Good post BanishedBrian.
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #14 posted 10/31/09 6:25am

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Prince has so much popular and anticipated material for a show. I believe he caters to that familiar sound first.

So many of us would love to hear anything out of Prince's collection, and we know if we play all of the official music it takes days to get through.

I'd love to hear something from "Gold."

I went to see, "This is it," the other night, and I really enjoyed it...I just kept hoping that someday we can see Prince in this up close and personal dedicating himself to certain songs.
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