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Reply #60 posted 09/12/09 1:21pm

Jeffiner

PDogz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:




I like the way you said this

so I'll come right out and say it: AIDS

and to add onto it the scare of Nuclear war was very present for us back then
There were movies/tv movies made then to show the possibility: the Day After and a lot of early 80's movies reflected that via Terminator, Mad Max and a lot of others

lol ...and I like the way you're able to so effectively read between the lines, lol. And you're dead on! There was no shortage of issues to keep you busy with the tissues in the 80's. eek


That's so true, I remember the first adverts on TV, it was all a new, strange thing to us, and really scary, although it was a bit before my 'active' time lol But, yes as well as the freedom and excitement of the music, there were a lot of restraints and things like nuclear bombs and war 'looming' over our heads... 1999 The Berlin Wall was still firmly in place! Funny how at times like that the music is so full of hope, and a lot of fun, same during the second world war I think! And funny how we mostly forget the bad things, and remember the good!
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Reply #61 posted 09/12/09 1:29pm

Jeffiner

unique said:

i remember my best friend at school who had an older brother who was really into music as we were, and he influenced us both by making mixtapes of artists that we wouldn't otherwise heard, as radio was playing duran duran, wham! and stuff like that, and we were listening to dylan, PIL, sex pistols, lou reed, roxy music and artists more popular from the decade before, we also got hip to bands and artists like the The, big audio dynamite etc, and this guy called prince

we used to save our lunch money to buy records, we had all the coolest music. i remember one day we got purple rain on betamax video and watched it at my house as my mate didn't have a video player back then. i was knocked out by it, that's what got me hooked on prince. i bought all the albums, then singles, then related artists stuff

as time went on you would hear a new song on the radio before the lead single from the album was released. i remember hearing alphabet street, and thinking it was so different to SOTT. i remember hearing batdance for the first time and wondering what the fuck had happened to prince, it was a record that sounded more like bomb da bass, i thought prince had started to do house music

i also remember being given a tape of the black album in 88, i think it might have been before lovesexy came out. to get that at the time when everyone was talking about it was something else. then i got a tape of the first avenue gig from 21st march 87, a soundboard recording of an amazing gig, and then the infamous trojan horse small club gig on tape, that was just so fucking amazing to get at the time. then tapes of outtakes, and finding the bootlegs at record fairs, all those cool unreleased tracks from the 80s. we used to wonder what it was like at paisley park, we just heard the music, we didn't see what it was like

and a few years later i was getting to meet prince, and get onstage with him, and go to paisley park and hang out and see him play. we used to hear about the infamous parties and wonder what they were like, and now we were there. we saw round the studio, i even ended up in the studio with prince and the time, talking for 2 hours

the 90s was also a great time too, especially around 95/95/96 with the slave era and emancipation. all the great new songs getting leaked out, the arguments with warners, talk of the vaults being opened. some amazing bootlegs

back then collecting bootlegs and stuff was completely different to today, you needed real contacts, you went to record fairs, and shops who dared sell the stuff. you couldn't just log onto the internet from home on a computer and download stuff, and you didn't have the internet for news either, it was all rumours and whispers, which kept up the mystery. nowadays the mystery is all gone for me, i know and have seen too much, but it's still all good


Great post Unique! I didn't know about you hanging out with Prince and The Time?! Can you tell the story...? Pretty please... razz
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Reply #62 posted 09/12/09 1:34pm

Jeffiner

unique said:

i wouldn't really say the 80s were that scary due to AIDS and nuclear bombs, and personally i'd say most of the music in the 80s was utter shite, especially if you compare it to the previous decade. the 80s was the first decade where it wasn't important for artists to be able to play instruments or sing properly. even in the 70s the boy/girl bands could sing and play instruments, in the 80s it was about studio recordings instead of live performance. and live gigs were shit in the 80s with the addition of extra musicians on stage to try and emulate the studio sound. pink floyd had about 90 people onstage in the 80s and only the four of them in the 70s for example. even prince had more people onstage during his later 80s gigs than previously or afterwards

and 80s fashion was also pretty shite. it's the first decade where label names rather than the style was more important. sure there were plenty of cheesy pop hits in the 80s, but no more than any other decade. music and fashion became much better from the 90s onwards, and was much better in the 70s. the 80s was the decade that taste forgot


Hey.. I remember everyone saying the music was 'shite' at the time, everyone was like "Oh this music, not like it used to be!!" shaking their heads, and people tutting at me as I walked by in the street with some crazy outfit on! The 'designer' thing was a bit later on in the 80's if I remember rightly, Dynasty style! And of course there was the boom in The City of London, people making money like it was going out of fashion. 'Just You Laugh 'Cos You're Loaded' Deacon Blue biggrin Can't agree with the 90's thing at all, at ALL lol but that was your thing I know wink

Oh, and I saw the Human League live = absolutely shite! Spandau Ballet = brilliant, just the band as far as I recall, just a couple of examples!
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Reply #63 posted 09/12/09 1:48pm

Gunsnhalen

Jeffiner said:

unique said:

i wouldn't really say the 80s were that scary due to AIDS and nuclear bombs, and personally i'd say most of the music in the 80s was utter shite, especially if you compare it to the previous decade. the 80s was the first decade where it wasn't important for artists to be able to play instruments or sing properly. even in the 70s the boy/girl bands could sing and play instruments, in the 80s it was about studio recordings instead of live performance. and live gigs were shit in the 80s with the addition of extra musicians on stage to try and emulate the studio sound. pink floyd had about 90 people onstage in the 80s and only the four of them in the 70s for example. even prince had more people onstage during his later 80s gigs than previously or afterwards

and 80s fashion was also pretty shite. it's the first decade where label names rather than the style was more important. sure there were plenty of cheesy pop hits in the 80s, but no more than any other decade. music and fashion became much better from the 90s onwards, and was much better in the 70s. the 80s was the decade that taste forgot


Hey.. I remember everyone saying the music was 'shite' at the time, everyone was like "Oh this music, not like it used to be!!" shaking their heads, and people tutting at me as I walked by in the street with some crazy outfit on! The 'designer' thing was a bit later on in the 80's if I remember rightly, Dynasty style! And of course there was the boom in The City of London, people making money like it was going out of fashion. 'Just You Laugh 'Cos You're Loaded' Deacon Blue biggrin Can't agree with the 90's thing at all, at ALL lol but that was your thing I know wink

Oh, and I saw the Human League live = absolutely shite! Spandau Ballet = brilliant, just the band as far as I recall, just a couple of examples!
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Aww i like Human League): sad to hear that


I'M An alternative hound lol


OMD
Depeche Mode
New Order
Echo & The Bunnyman
Joy Division
The Cure
Inxs
The Smith's
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Rick Astley lol jk


But yes Yummmy:D


P.S

Yes Unique tell us the story pweeeeease dead

I Always wanted to hang out with Morris Day he seems like a cool cat cool
Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Reply #64 posted 09/12/09 2:14pm

Jeffiner

Gunsnhalen said:

Jeffiner said:



Hey.. I remember everyone saying the music was 'shite' at the time, everyone was like "Oh this music, not like it used to be!!" shaking their heads, and people tutting at me as I walked by in the street with some crazy outfit on! The 'designer' thing was a bit later on in the 80's if I remember rightly, Dynasty style! And of course there was the boom in The City of London, people making money like it was going out of fashion. 'Just You Laugh 'Cos You're Loaded' Deacon Blue biggrin Can't agree with the 90's thing at all, at ALL lol but that was your thing I know wink

Oh, and I saw the Human League live = absolutely shite! Spandau Ballet = brilliant, just the band as far as I recall, just a couple of examples!
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Aww i like Human League): sad to hear that


I'M An alternative hound lol


OMD
Depeche Mode
New Order
Echo & The Bunnyman
Joy Division
The Cure
Inxs
The Smith's
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Rick Astley lol jk


But yes Yummmy:D


P.S

Yes Unique tell us the story pweeeeease dead

I Always wanted to hang out with Morris Day he seems like a cool cat cool


I like the Human League too, but they were lip sinking, and there was NOTHING on the stage except them, and they didn't move very much, so it was a bit of a let down, still like the music though! All the other bands you mention are incredible! Good taste! Rick Astley - Noooo... lol

Btw Blackguitaristz on here has worked with Morris Day, so he has lots of interesting things to say, but I've never heard Unique's story so ...spill!! I LOVE this thread, could talk all day, but will try to shut up for a while! wink
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Reply #65 posted 09/12/09 2:22pm

Gunsnhalen

I like the Human League too, but they were lip sinking, and there was NOTHING on the stage except them, and they didn't move very much, so it was a bit of a let down, still like the music though! All the other bands you mention are incredible! Good taste! Rick Astley - Noooo... lol

Btw Blackguitaristz on here has worked with Morris Day, so he has lots of interesting things to say, but I've never heard Unique's story so ...spill!! I LOVE this thread, could talk all day, but will try to shut up for a while! wink[/quote]


Lol well i'm off work for once today and it's raining like hell outside so the orga nd texting has kept me company today lol and my guitar doesn't want to come untuned):

Blackguitarist! is so cool i have never really talked to him though but i have seen his posts and i have always wanted to he has many interesting tales(: and he's a Jim Hendrix & Jonnie Mitchell Fan to ow yeah music

My dad's jammins buddy nate was once a Roadie and got to be one for some of Prince's disciples

He was one for...
Sheena Easton
Vanity & the NPG [By themselves]

other then that he has motsly done metal bands

Megadeth
Metallica
Guns N Roses [Now those are some good stories lol]
Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #66 posted 09/12/09 2:30pm

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It was the best time to be a Prince fan and I'm glad I grew up in the 80's to experience the magic wink


You know this montage is cool as fuck, right? The first pic made ME grin from ear to ear!

That is not an easy feat, for me now-a-days in Prince world!

Hellooooo, Nurse!!!

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #67 posted 09/12/09 2:44pm

Jeffiner

Gunsnhalen said:

I like the Human League too, but they were lip sinking, and there was NOTHING on the stage except them, and they didn't move very much, so it was a bit of a let down, still like the music though! All the other bands you mention are incredible! Good taste! Rick Astley - Noooo... lol

Btw Blackguitaristz on here has worked with Morris Day, so he has lots of interesting things to say, but I've never heard Unique's story so ...spill!! I LOVE this thread, could talk all day, but will try to shut up for a while! wink



Lol well i'm off work for once today and it's raining like hell outside so the orga nd texting has kept me company today lol and my guitar doesn't want to come untuned):

Blackguitarist! is so cool i have never really talked to him though but i have seen his posts and i have always wanted to he has many interesting tales(: and he's a Jim Hendrix & Jonnie Mitchell Fan to ow yeah music

My dad's jammins buddy nate was once a Roadie and got to be one for some of Prince's disciples

He was one for...
Sheena Easton
Vanity & the NPG [By themselves]

other then that he has motsly done metal bands

Megadeth
Metallica
Guns N Roses [Now those are some good stories
lol][/quote]

nod

And Wow! That's interesting stuff, reckon we've got a few good threads to come from you Gunsnhalen wink
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Reply #68 posted 09/12/09 3:34pm

Gunsnhalen

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

nurseV said:















It was the best time to be a Prince fan and I'm glad I grew up in the 80's to experience the magic wink


You know this montage is cool as fuck, right? The first pic made ME grin from ear to ear!

That is not an easy feat, for me now-a-days in Prince world!

Hellooooo, Nurse!!!










I Do enjoy that little montage(:

Although everytime i see the first pic at first glance it loosk like Mr.P Is flipping me the bird lol

And i hope i can keep some good posts up jef(:
Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #69 posted 09/12/09 10:26pm

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Jeffiner said:

PDogz said:


lol ...and I like the way you're able to so effectively read between the lines, lol. And you're dead on! There was no shortage of issues to keep you busy with the tissues in the 80's. eek

That's so true, I remember the first adverts on TV, it was all a new, strange thing to us, and really scary, although it was a bit before my 'active' time lol

Then just imagine how it was in the years before there were ANY adverts on TV telling you ANYTHING, and the only thing you knew for sure was that people all around you were mysteriously dropping dead within a 30 day period! One day they seemed fine, the next week they seemed sick (and 20 lbs. lighter with lesions developing on their skin and glands bulging in their neck), then 3 weeks later you'd hear THEY DIED! eek (...with NO explanation!!!) Everytime someone sneezed, you were getting ready for another funeral. And God forbid: if YOU were the one who sneezed, you got to watch everyone as they slowly drifted away from you, with the reflection of tombstones in their eyes. The 80's were a time of slow-boiling panic, in many ways.

Jeffiner said:

But, yes as well as the freedom and excitement of the music, there were a lot of restraints and things like nuclear bombs and war 'looming' over our heads... 1999 The Berlin Wall was still firmly in place! Funny how at times like that the music is so full of hope, and a lot of fun, same during the second world war I think! And funny how we mostly forget the bad things, and remember the good!

That was the exact point I was trying to illustrate. So many so often romanticize the past, making the claim that the music and times today are nowhere near as good as the music and times from "back in the day". I contend that the music "back in the day" seems better now because we've had 20 years to hear it, whereas the music from today we've only had days or weeks to listen to (with no fond memories from the past to associate it with). The passage of time makes a lot of things seem better - even life itself.
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Reply #70 posted 09/12/09 10:38pm

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...in the 80's I was blessed enuff to see live and not in order, Prince, Maze, earth wind and fire, duran duran, Michael Jackson, Grace Jones, kid creole and the coconuts (yes don't laugh)

"There's a gentleman that's goin' round, turning the joint upside down - Stool Pigeon! Hot cha cha cha!" I LOVED Kid Creole & The Coconuts! touched
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Reply #71 posted 09/13/09 7:18pm

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PDogz said:


That was the exact point I was trying to illustrate. So many so often romanticize the past, making the claim that the music and times today are nowhere near as good as the music and times from "back in the day". I contend that the music "back in the day" seems better now because we've had 20 years to hear it, whereas the music from today we've only had days or weeks to listen to (with no fond memories from the past to associate it with). The passage of time makes a lot of things seem better - even life itself.


This thread is definitely rife with good-ol' days syndrome. That's the nature of the beast, especially when you ask folks what was music like when they were 20 years younger. I can't tell you how many older folks I heard back in the 80's talk about how much better music was in the 60's, back when real musicians played real music. c'est la vie.
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Reply #72 posted 09/13/09 10:37pm

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Reply #73 posted 09/13/09 10:56pm

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unique said:

i wouldn't really say the 80s were that scary due to AIDS and ...


I guess that really depends who you were then and who your friends were.

I was 12 when Purple Rain came out and I didn't have that record til'85. What I had instead was 1999...on cassette I remember walking down Park Point in Duluth, Mn with my boombox (we carried our boombox everywhere when we were kids) at night listening to All the Critics Love You in New York and Automatic thinking "This is so weird" and very quickly turning that thought into "How did he even think of that?". I was totally impressed by Prince's creativity, and from then on I was obsessed.

In Duluth people didn't really admit to liking Prince. Prince was a 'fag', and as a young boy if you admitted to liking Prince, Michael Jackson or (god forbid) Boy George, you were a fag as well. I of course loved Prince and made no bones about it, but I got shit for that.

I tried to see Purple Rain in the theater but my foster parents wouldn't let me. "If you want to see R rated movies you don't have to live in this house".

Eventually, I moved out of that place and got ahold of the Prince and the Revolution Live Video. By that time Around the World in a Day had come out and I was wearing paisley and doing everything I could to get my hair to go over one eye. I was so BOWLED OVER by the Syracuse video. Especially Irresistible Bitch/ Possessed, the solo in Purple Rain and the long Baby I'm a Star portion. I just loved the Revolution, I loved how hey looked, I loved those synth horn blasts and long jams. It was SO FUCKING EXCITING! The band was so cool! Much cooler than anything in Duluth. By age 15 I got my ass out of Duluth and moved to MPLS...my TRUE home.

The music was beyond exciting and it was really an event when a new Prince record would drop. But also, for me and I'm sure alot of others, Prince represented a kind of freedom and a possibility of life. I grew up in such a stilted, homophobic, violent and repressed environment. Prince and the Revolution seemed like the coolest people on earth. To me as kid they represented a promise that life could be about something other than what I had grown up with. They were like evidence. In that sense I think they were very much important in the same way glam was to kids in the early 70s.

That was cultural force back then. He aint anything like like that now. I'm glad I was alive for that back then, but MAN I wish I would have seen the Purple Rain tour. My first show, in the summer of '85, was Ted Nugent. BAH!
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Reply #74 posted 09/13/09 11:54pm

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unique said:

i wouldn't really say the 80s were that scary due to AIDS and ...

I guess that really depends who you were then and who your friends were.

nod ...you said a mouthful! I would also add; where you were living at the time probably had a lot to do with what you were experiencing. All through the 80's I lived in Hollywood, California... and the outlook was BLEAK! Moreover, I would go so far as to assert that anyone living in a major city in America, that was "of the age of consent" by 1981, would have definitely been fearful of what was going on.
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