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Thread started 09/07/09 7:56am

Handel

MJ's stock went up when he died. The same could happen with Prince

Not being morbid, but Prince's death could mean good business. His back catalogue is vast, just like Elvis'...
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Reply #1 posted 09/07/09 7:58am

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Handel said:

Not being morbid, but Prince's death could mean good business. His back catalogue is vast, just like Elvis'...



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Reply #2 posted 09/07/09 8:01am

Handel

irishwolfhound said:

Handel said:

Not being morbid, but Prince's death could mean good business. His back catalogue is vast, just like Elvis'...



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Like I said, not trying to be morbid. But the reality is it would make perfect financial sense.
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Reply #3 posted 09/07/09 8:06am

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Here is the difference:


MJ let his career go into the shitter in his last years. Prince has done very well since 2004 in this regard. His image, if anything, has been more mainstream and accepted by the masses/average joe folks since 2004. Things like his huge success at the Superbowl Halftime show is evidence of this. MJ had not this kind of popularity/acclaim in years.

Bottom Line: If Prince died today, yes his stock would go up, but the change wouldn't be as drastic as MJ's. It took him dying for the idiots here in the USA to fall in love with Michael Jackson all over again.

[Edited 9/7/09 8:06am]
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Reply #4 posted 09/07/09 8:06am

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Reply #5 posted 09/07/09 8:09am

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Handel said:

Not being morbid, but Prince's death could mean good business. His back catalogue is vast, just like Elvis'...




Don't compare MJ to a GOD
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Reply #6 posted 09/07/09 8:11am

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Reply #7 posted 09/07/09 8:22am

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another MJvP thread - I mean, does the org really need one

Let the subject go, it's been done enough already. A quick search here would show that eek
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Reply #8 posted 09/07/09 8:31am

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Same old BS.

What is the interest in 'stock' anyway? It means F-all to me as a listener of Prince's music.

This same point also applies to David Bowie, Eric Clapton, Elton John, Madonna, Paul McCartney ... the list goes on.

Why people insist on comparing Prince and MJ is beyond me. They have no musical relation to one another. They are two completely different types of Artist.
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/09 8:34am

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Why do people here always do that lock down thing-why do you care? Anyway to the question of course it would-doesn't the death of someone always add value. God when I child gets killed they are always the best pupil, the best loved, the nicest person ever-that's death for ya. Nostalgia or self delusion kick in within seconds.
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Reply #10 posted 09/07/09 9:01am

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skywalker said:

Here is the difference:


MJ let his career go into the shitter in his last years. Prince has done very well since 2004 in this regard. His image, if anything, has been more mainstream and accepted by the masses/average joe folks since 2004. Things like his huge success at the Superbowl Halftime show is evidence of this. MJ had not this kind of popularity/acclaim in years.

Bottom Line: If Prince died today, yes his stock would go up, but the change wouldn't be as drastic as MJ's. It took him dying for the idiots here in the USA to fall in love with Michael Jackson all over again.

[Edited 9/7/09 8:06am]


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Reply #11 posted 09/07/09 9:07am

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Reply #12 posted 09/07/09 10:10am

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No thanks. Great watching him age gracefully, i dont need hist stock to go up nor a new masterpiece, as a matter of fact we judge him too harshly now as if 51 year old prince should innovate and be badass like 25 yr. old prince (wow those ages look startling in print!). I just like seeing him do what the hell he wants age well and play a mean guitar, i dont need to hear the bandwagon jumpers wax poetic about his genuis after he's gone. Live Long Prince.
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Reply #13 posted 09/07/09 10:16am

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Handel said:

Not being morbid, but Prince's death could mean good business. His back catalogue is vast, just like Elvis'...


1. No shit, Sherlock
2. Log off
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Reply #14 posted 09/07/09 10:37am

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MJ's stock went up because there's always a halo effect when someone of great talent dies. Plus, outside of the USA and Europe, MJ was still a massive star.


Prince isn't viewed in the nearly the same light outside of the USA and Europe. Regardless of how much his 'stock' goes up, if the material in the vault ever sees the light of day, the gift towards posterity will dwarf the current possibly rushed projects for MJ that are due to be released.


I would hope Prince lives to see 100 in which case, he's only halfway there. There's bound to be more surprises along the way. Speculating on his future popularity this early in the game (if he does live a long time) would be meaningless.
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Reply #15 posted 09/07/09 10:50am

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I don't really care about the morbidity of this subject. what I think would be curious about this situation in Prince's case is how unprecedented it would be. What I mean is that he is very famous and well regarded by those who care, scritics would be pushing him. However has there been anybody where you could discover so much even out of the released stuff. People adopt soo much nostalgia out of death so even the stuff we diss here would gain so much weight let alone the other stuff. I know people have argued that Prince hasnt releases vault stuff coz its crap but we have discussed enough bootleg stuff here before that is excellent. I didnt get the MJ sales surge because that music was written to be sold on mass and did. Who the hell that would wannt it not have purchased it anyway-there is no discovery to be had. I can understand people maybe buying greatest hits but even then... Prince could have a whole career.

I think this is a very valid question as it focuses the mind on how good something is. Lets face it when we slag Prince off it's our relative experience of him as fans. If some other popstar had sung Arms of Orion etc it would be on their single disc greatest hits CD. Whoever gets his publishing etc after he is gone is on to an absolute winner.
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Reply #16 posted 09/07/09 10:55am

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Reply #17 posted 09/07/09 10:57am

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How about we just wait and see. Some people are so damn Creepy. ughhhhh!!
Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews.
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Reply #18 posted 09/07/09 11:06am

jcurley

metallicjigolo said:

How about we just wait and see. Some people are so damn Creepy. ughhhhh!!


I dont usually get aggressive like some on here but SHUT UP. Prince is not your dad -brother-sister (Oh I sound like a Prince lyric). For most of us he is an abstract being. Yes I would feel his death and argue his value as much as the next... but as I have said earlier why do people do this lock down thing(And God I cant understand why people use bloody symbols all the time coz u look like pratts). If a MODERATOR closes this down they need to get a life...as I probably do by responding in the first place
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Reply #19 posted 09/07/09 11:41am

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when i saw those people who traveled from all over to say goodbye to mike i totally got it. even as a "prince" guy i loved mike and it hurt to hear his voice for like a month. if prince were to go, i wouldnt be worried about his stock but i would try my damndest to get to where i need to be to say goodbye even though i only know him through his work. The only other guys i can say that about are Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard.
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Reply #20 posted 09/07/09 11:42am

Imago

dreamshaman32 said:

when i saw those people who traveled from all over to say goodbye to mike i totally got it. even as a "prince" guy i loved mike and it hurt to hear his voice for like a month. if prince were to go, i wouldnt be worried about his stock but i would try my damndest to get to where i need to be to say goodbye even though i only know him through his work. The only other guys i can say that about are Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard.


This fascinates me.
Even though Prince's music was very important in parts of my life, if he passed away I'd be more curious than remorseful. He's a musician. I like his music. But I have no emotional bond to him.
I know friends who wouldn't be able to work for a week though.
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Reply #21 posted 09/07/09 11:47am

Handel

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Bottom Line: If Prince died today, yes his stock would go up, but the change wouldn't be as drastic as MJ's. It took him dying for the idiots here in the USA to fall in love with Michael Jackson all over again.

[Edited 9/7/09 8:06am]


Interesting. Do you really believe P's death might result in a sea-change as far as his worldwide mass appeal is concerned? My original question was not related to how emotive it would be were that scenario to become a reality. my feeling is P's stock would inevitably go up, just as Elvis' did. Witness just how profitable El's marketing still is, even after all these years. And Elvis didn't nearly record as much original material as Prince has. So the possibilities with Prince's leftovers are endless...
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Reply #22 posted 09/07/09 12:12pm

jcurley

Handel said:

skywalker said:


Bottom Line: If Prince died today, yes his stock would go up, but the change wouldn't be as drastic as MJ's. It took him dying for the idiots here in the USA to fall in love with Michael Jackson all over again.

[Edited 9/7/09 8:06am]


Interesting. Do you really believe P's death might result in a sea-change as far as his worldwide mass appeal is concerned? My original question was not related to how emotive it would be were that scenario to become a reality. my feeling is P's stock would inevitably go up, just as Elvis' did. Witness just how profitable El's marketing still is, even after all these years. And Elvis didn't nearly record as much original material as Prince has. So the possibilities with Prince's leftovers are endless...


I really like your question coz you are not asking about the death of prince but more it's weight in music (And Gold). I would not seek out a Prince funeral as I feel it would be ridiculous as I thought most people were at recent events. No wonder mankind screws itself over. Anyway as I said earlier I think P's death would be (and yes I understand why people think it's morbid but that's not the point) n unprecedented one as basically has anyone been that famous with so much unreleased and unrecognized music. How many times have we discussed here.. "If artist covered Prince's music?", "If someone else mixed Prince's tracks?" etc.. what other artist could actually have an actual industry in terms of peoples perception of NEW music other than Prince. Furthermore Prince has had a LIVING mystique which for most would only arrive at death even though they might have been blatantly a production line of McDonalds burgers during their lifetime
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