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what was the deal with prince and hippies back in the day? he seemed to have mentioned them a lot on his 1999 album | |
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PurpleDiamond2009 said: he seemed to have mentioned them a lot on his 1999 album
Yeah, he did. I ran a thread on here over two years ago specifically talking about this...This is a little of what I touched on.... Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Alright, if all the hippies cut off all their hair, I don't care" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "U could cut off all of your hair, I don't think they'd care" Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Right on Mr. Businessman, you can't dress like me" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "Look out all u hippies, U ain't as sharp as me" SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Of course, P also mentions hippies in Extra Loveable, (outtake) Let's Pretend We're Fucking" ooops, I mean "Married" but I have always personally believed that what I wrote in my initial post ^^^^^is the basis of P's use of the word. Just my thought. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: Of course, P also mentions hippies in Extra Loveable, (outtake) Let's Pretend We're Fucking" ooops, I mean "Married" but I have always personally believed that what I wrote in my initial post ^^^^^is the basis of P's use of the word. Just my thought.
Well, that's all very interesting, I didn't know that. But I suppose people forget that Prince was influenced by people who came before him, in the same way that others were influenced by him later! Here's your original thread (I think) http://prince.org/msg/7/251965 [Edited 9/4/09 4:08am] | |
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blackguitaristz said: PurpleDiamond2009 said: he seemed to have mentioned them a lot on his 1999 album
Yeah, he did. I ran a thread on here over two years ago specifically talking about this...This is a little of what I touched on.... Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Alright, if all the hippies cut off all their hair, I don't care" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "U could cut off all of your hair, I don't think they'd care" Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Right on Mr. Businessman, you can't dress like me" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "Look out all u hippies, U ain't as sharp as me" That's interesting. I never connected the two songs like that, but it makes a lot of sense. But Prince absolutely has never been influenced by Hendrix. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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The drug scene aside...The hippie generation was about Peace Love and Happiness. This is a state of mind that should always be in our hearts and come through music. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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I'm speculating that in '82 there were still quite a few hippie holdouts around - making it somewhat relevant. As in, you're so out of place, get with the times!
maybe I'm way off, but that's how I always saw it anyway | |
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I just love it when Prince says, All the purple Hippies Bang Your Head on the One!
I wonder how you technically would do this? | |
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I thought then and now that Prince saw himself a throwback to the sixties because no one, with a couple exceptions could match his creativity. I believed he pretended to live and make music in that vital creative period in rock history. I mean he didn't have much to look to in his day, Duran Duran, Adam Ant, of course you had lots of talent too but not compared to 60's pop. | |
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squirrelgrease said: blackguitaristz said: Yeah, he did. I ran a thread on here over two years ago specifically talking about this...This is a little of what I touched on.... Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Alright, if all the hippies cut off all their hair, I don't care" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "U could cut off all of your hair, I don't think they'd care" Jimi Hendrix "If 6 Was 9" "Right on Mr. Businessman, you can't dress like me" Prince "All The Critics Love U In New York" "Look out all u hippies, U ain't as sharp as me" That's interesting. I never connected the two songs like that, but it makes a lot of sense. But Prince absolutely has never been influenced by Hendrix. Thanx man. Not too loud! Don't want folks on here to get mad at ya for complimenting me! And of course not. Heaven forbid. [Edited 9/4/09 12:48pm] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Take a bath hippies | |
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Jeffiner said: blackguitaristz said: Of course, P also mentions hippies in Extra Loveable, (outtake) Let's Pretend We're Fucking" ooops, I mean "Married" but I have always personally believed that what I wrote in my initial post ^^^^^is the basis of P's use of the word. Just my thought.
Well, that's all very interesting, I didn't know that. But I suppose people forget that Prince was influenced by people who came before him, in the same way that others were influenced by him later! Here's your original thread (I think) http://prince.org/msg/7/251965 [Edited 9/4/09 4:08am] Yep, that's the thread. Thanx babe for digging it up. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I wonder if Eric Cartman derived his hatred of hippies from Prince? | |
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Prince was a hippie himself. Or at least he took their swag imho. But he wanted to clean it up a bit. He took their sexual freedom tag but yet was still somewhat clowning them for their look maybe. Maybe he was on a sexual freedom kick but look dap doing it, not homeless. Hell like someone posted above, the 199 album is full of hippidom. And he went and twisted the "drugs, sex, and rock n roll" creedo ot DMSR. | |
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Great observations Blackguitaristz about Jimi's
influence on Prince's lyrics. i think Prince often mentions hippie movement because it represents idea that he likes love peace and unity. i Don't think we should take P references of Hippies for granted like take a bath Hippies. on ALL the Crytics he also reference "it's time 4 jazz to die" ,many fans took it for granted i think he wanted to say something different | |
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P got a lot of press from largely white music writers from Dirty Mind and Controversy. I think he also refered to these writers as "hippies" in the sense that I don't think P believed that they truly "got" what he was doing, musically, or understood where he was coming from. That their opinions of him, were "dated". Thus him calling them "hippies". That's why I said I think it was P'slang for critics AND whites. It carris a double meaning.-interesting Blackguitristz | |
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thebanishedone said: P got a lot of press from largely white music writers from Dirty Mind and Controversy. I think he also refered to these writers as "hippies" in the sense that I don't think P believed that they truly "got" what he was doing, musically, or understood where he was coming from. That their opinions of him, were "dated". Thus him calling them "hippies". That's why I said I think it was P'slang for critics AND whites. It carris a double meaning.-interesting Blackguitristz
very interesting, never thought about it that way... | |
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thebanishedone said: Great observations Blackguitaristz about Jimi's
influence on Prince's lyrics. i think Prince often mentions hippie movement because it represents idea that he likes love peace and unity. i Don't think we should take P references of Hippies for granted like take a bath Hippies. on ALL the Crytics he also reference "it's time 4 jazz to die" ,many fans took it for granted i think he wanted to say something different Thanx, man. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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nyse said: thebanishedone said: P got a lot of press from largely white music writers from Dirty Mind and Controversy. I think he also refered to these writers as "hippies" in the sense that I don't think P believed that they truly "got" what he was doing, musically, or understood where he was coming from. That their opinions of him, were "dated". Thus him calling them "hippies". That's why I said I think it was P'slang for critics AND whites. It carris a double meaning.-interesting Blackguitristz
very interesting, never thought about it that way... Thanx again banished and nyse. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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u always have great insight blackG | |
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blackguitaristz said: nyse said: very interesting, never thought about it that way... Thanx again banished and nyse. Well put, Blackguitaristz Prince's Sarah | |
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nyse said: u always have great insight blackG
Thanx but careful man, saying that out loud on here will piss people off to the high heavens brah. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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mzsadii said: blackguitaristz said: Thanx again banished and nyse. Well put, Blackguitaristz Thanx... SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I don't care what people think...lol | |
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nyse said: I don't care what people think...lol
That's good...Me either but I don't want u to catch hell having my back. And to many on here, complimenting me equates having my back. [Edited 9/6/09 17:11pm] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Prince is paying homage to Jimi, for those of us who know to look for it, cause he is a master of of being subtle. | |
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nyse said: thebanishedone said: P got a lot of press from largely white music writers from Dirty Mind and Controversy. I think he also refered to these writers as "hippies" in the sense that I don't think P believed that they truly "got" what he was doing, musically, or understood where he was coming from. That their opinions of him, were "dated". Thus him calling them "hippies". That's why I said I think it was P'slang for critics AND whites. It carris a double meaning.-interesting Blackguitristz
very interesting, never thought about it that way... very interesting indeed | |
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Great thread. I agree with black's lyrical observation, and I think the references to hippies (lyrical and otherwise) were all part of his effort to posit himself as being larger than his (black) contemporary musical scene.
He was aware of the comparisons to Hendrix that he'd been getting up til then. But, in his "I'm the wrong color and I play guitar" kind of way, Prince knew that his commercial success was dependent upon him having the same "black outsider" status that helped/beset Hendrix. Because, let's face it, most record stores were still filing his albums in the R&B section... "See these cufflinks? They cost money..." Combined with the punk references in his marketing/styling and music, this "broader perspective" of his was a way of waving his freak flag high and telegraphing that he was well aware of both his diverse influences and considerable talent. The Adam Ant/Hendrix turn that his costumes took in Purple Rain was extremely calculated. Consider how many New Romantics extras pop up in the performance scenes of that movie, especially in the beginning. Prince was telegraphing a broader sound and a broader world view, in hopes of gaining crossover success. [Edited 9/6/09 18:34pm] | |
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ThreadBare said: Great thread. I agree with black's lyrical observation, and I think the references to hippies (lyrical and otherwise) were all part of his effort to posit himself as being larger than his (black) contemporary musical scene.
He was aware of the comparisons to Hendrix that he'd been getting up til then. But, in his "I'm the wrong color and I play guitar" kind of way, Prince knew that his commercial success was dependent upon him having the same "black outsider" status that helped/beset Hendrix. Because, let's face it, most record stores were still filing his albums in the R&B section... "See these cufflinks? They cost money..." Combined with the punk references in his marketing/styling and music, this "broader perspective" of his was a way of waving his freak flag high and telegraphing that he was well aware of both his diverse influences and considerable talent. The Adam Ant/Hendrix turn that his costumes took in Purple Rain was extremely calculated. Consider how many New Romantics extras pop up in the performance scenes of that movie, especially in the beginning. Prince was telegraphing a broader sound and a broader world view, in hopes of gaining crossover success. [Edited 9/6/09 18:34pm] Go head on, mayne! Go head on! U know EXACTLY what I'm saying. VERY well put, Thread! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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"TAKE A BATH HIPPIE!"
When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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