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Thread started 10/01/09 12:46pm

PurpleLove7

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Boot Appreciation

Does anyone agree or disagree with the point of view that having Prince boots in your collection take away from the appreciation or the appreciation of his music?
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Reply #1 posted 10/01/09 1:04pm

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Reply #2 posted 10/01/09 1:05pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

Does anyone agree or disagree with the point of view that having Prince boots in your collection take away from the appreciation or the appreciation of his music?


For me, there are album versions of songs that I might not be totally fond of for one reason or the other, but often times w/ Prince the live version is miles above the album version. I also find it interesting the order of songs he puts together in his set lists. Most times, before he started doing greatest hits tours, the tour really enveloped the album. The mood of the album was put forth in the concert. Lovesexy, SOTT, Purple Rain, Hit N Run 86....all good examples of that. It made me appreciate the album(s) even more. I GOT his vision of an album. SOTT was gritty and dirty. Lovesexy was spiritual, a rebirth. Purple Rain was a party. etc etc. Having a bootleg of a show is a good thing.

As far as outtakes, the same theory of "mood" applies sometimes. We can hear the original ideas behind an album like Parade when we hear songs like "Old Friends 4 Sale" (a personal song, but still relatively coherent w/ the movie), All My Dreams (which TOTALLY should have been the ending song in the movie), Others Here With us, etc. We can also hear the attitude he was wearing at the time he recorded these groups of songs. A lot of protege songs reflected his musical mood at the time as well. The Family could never duet on "Erotic City" or "Nasty Girl", but totally nailed things like "Mutiny" or "High Fashion". Apollonia couldn't pull off singing "Mia Bocca", but Jill could.
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Reply #3 posted 10/01/09 6:46pm

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I've always looked at them as unofficial albums so they have made me more of a fan of his music over the years. Finding unreleased track boots back in the day was exciting and felt like Prince was dropping a new album every month. Now I look forward to the live concerts that pop up from time to time. I especially enjoy finding a live show where I was actually in attendance for my collection.
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Reply #4 posted 10/01/09 6:51pm

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HonestMan13 said:

I've always looked at them as unofficial albums so they have made me more of a fan of his music over the years. Finding unreleased track boots back in the day was exciting and felt like Prince was dropping a new album every month. Now I look forward to the live concerts that pop up from time to time. I especially enjoy finding a live show where I was actually in attendance for my collection.


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Reply #5 posted 10/01/09 7:11pm

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mzsadii said:

HonestMan13 said:

I've always looked at them as unofficial albums so they have made me more of a fan of his music over the years. Finding unreleased track boots back in the day was exciting and felt like Prince was dropping a new album every month. Now I look forward to the live concerts that pop up from time to time. I especially enjoy finding a live show where I was actually in attendance for my collection.


HEAR...HEAR...I AGREE


My actual fave collector item is the DVD with "Dinner With Delores" from the Today Show. I have myself on video with that one. Priceless!!!
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Reply #6 posted 10/01/09 9:01pm

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Quite the opposite. This gentleman pretty much sums up why fans seek what Prince will not give us himself:

German Composer Talks Prince
by admin on Jul.13, 2009, under Uncategorized

With the majority of new artists failing to achieve recognition, throwing the towel in after disappointing sales and failing to maintain their market share, a policy of blame culture is the going rate amongst bands and musicians. Having worked in the industry for more than 15 years now, rest assured that it is always a case of somebody else’s fault, be it the record company, the promoter, the manager or the guitarist’s girlfriend. Without taking sides in this article, it is worth while taking a look at an artist who has always managed to take matters in his own hands: Prince!

In 1992, at the height of his career, Prince had the guts to disconnect himself from his major record label and decided to continue on his own. With no major backing, no supportive hit singles and completely out of the industry machinery, Prince still managed to be the highest earner in 2004, sold out 21 nights in the London O2 arena in 2007 within seconds and just recently had a No.2 Album entry in the US Billboard charts.
How come?

1. Prince Works

Despite his continues stream of songwriting, producing and releasing his own records, Prince constantly re-invents himself as time demands. He always plays live, experiments with his catalogue including new band set-ups, involves musicians and simply lives and breathes his music. By doing this, he has become one of the most fascinating musicians and live performer with a soverenity second to none. His work is not set, scheduled or in any other way determined by the usual release policies and routines dictated by the Record Company but simply out of his own desire to keep his music alive and exciting without any hang ups.

2. Being The Industry - Being A Marketing Genius

Bands/Musicians these days have two choices. One is the devil called Record Company, the other one is the saint called Internet. It is the devil they hate and the saint they don’t understand. As a result, bands tend to sleep with different devils hoping the new one might be the lesser evil and, at the same time, praying that “doing a bit on the Internet” will, maybe one day, bring some ease to their continuous struggle. So what did Prince do already 15 years ago? He dumped the devil and became his own industry. Secondly, he embraced the then still very underdeveloped medium called the Internet. This was not done overnight, required incredible self-discipline and willingness to create his own, fully functional set-up, all on top of his 24/7 workload.

Prince’s music was then primarily released through his Internet subscription service NPGOnline. Sales suffered and he “disappeared” but he never lost his presence. In addition, his independence turned him into a marketing genius always thinking outside the box, always surprising the punters with his extravagant shows and musical explorations such as his appearance at the great Monteux Jazz Festival or his legendary exclusive Las Vegas appearances. His free give-away of the Planet Earth Album via a UK Newspaper caused controversy but was the perfect promotion for his 21 Nights UK Tour. His persistent and successful crack down unauthorised usage of images, music and videos on the Internet is another way of “keeping up your price”. His new Album was a direct deal with US Retailers including Target. It worked. Previous Albums were based on marketing-distribution deals with major distributors, always keeping the full rights to his work.

3. The Art of Giving - Prince Live

Prince’s legendary Live performances and excessive aftershows made him the most bootlegged musician of all times. However, seeing him on stage makes one realise how different his live performances are from the rest of today’s top acts.
Prince does not perform because the industry routine demands it. Prince performs because he loves to share with the audience his gift of being an outstanding musician and performer with a repertoire to die for. Prince masters every trick in the book of playing live, he loves to deliver an explosive musical experience without compromise (no pyrotechnics needed). A man who plays for two hours in front of a stadium audience and then returns 2 hours later in a club playing a 3 hour show in front of 200 people with an always changing set clearly loves what he does. Having reached the age of 50 now, nothing has changed. In fact, it seemed that he is better than ever.

Although his recent devotion towards the Jehovah Witness believe system has raised some eyebrows, he certainly lives according to one rule: “God helps those who help themselves”

http://www.bwrecknagel.com/blog/
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Reply #7 posted 10/01/09 9:41pm

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only adds to the full experience
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Reply #8 posted 10/01/09 10:12pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

Does anyone agree or disagree with the point of view that having Prince boots in your collection take away from the appreciation or the appreciation of his music?

Being appreciative of bootleg recordings is unAmerican:
You infringe on the rights and unrealised monetary gains of the musican, performer and whatever. All of these things are protected far, far into the future for the benefit of the corporations.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #9 posted 10/01/09 10:33pm

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Prince's view:



Of course, he never mentions trading or sharing bootlegs... hmmm
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/09 1:05am

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Reply #11 posted 10/02/09 1:39am

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Thank you for the pic, Squirrelgrease.... biggrin

I have tons of boots , collected since 1988 or something,

but it's very rare I listen,

I guess they quickly bores me,

Only studio and live soundboard recording have my interest.

but.. I have never understood Prince - why he cares so much about the bootleg "market", I mean most of other artists just ignores bootlegs, don't they?

"1-800-New-Funk will try to fulfill your needs", haha what a joke... lol
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Reply #12 posted 10/03/09 9:22am

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Maybe he cares so much because, as Squirrelgrease's article shows, he's the Bootlegged King.
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