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PrintableOldFriends4Sale said: polkadotbliss said: K.....
think I'll leave it there-as arguing with a ten year old aint my thing PS-name 5 Miko songs we all know then.hell name just one-i sure as hell can't or a soundtrack HE scored..... AND-so how much influence on Prince's sound did Miko have then-compared to Wendy..... being a session player is slightly diffrent to writing-and producing and being in demmand from other names that wanna work with you still today he may be a good player-great-so long as the talent writes the stuff for him he's had about as much influence on Prince as you have-ie NONE there-thats your bedtime story-now grab Tinky Winky and fuck off to bed  right, Mico was definately a guitarist that was a 'purple soldier' being in the camp since the PR years Glamorous Life:toured as sheila's guitarist, session work with the Family (did he perform with them at 1st Avenue?) He said in an interview that he listened to Prince's guitar playing to copy the sound. Which is what I loved about the earlier musicians...they played Prince music not their own. So that's a + for Mico And he had that non conformist, not black/not white thing about him-his vibe But I don't know of any direct contribution to Prince's music and writing Whereas it's pretty obvious and well know what contribution Wendy & Susannah Melvoin brought to Prince's music prince was boning susannah so she's going 2 b a influence on his music ..but amazing how susan moonsie was the main inspiration 4 his biggest hit ever ..when doves cry  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: OldFriends4Sale said: right, Mico was definately a guitarist that was a 'purple soldier' being in the camp since the PR years Glamorous Life:toured as sheila's guitarist, session work with the Family (did he perform with them at 1st Avenue?) He said in an interview that he listened to Prince's guitar playing to copy the sound. Which is what I loved about the earlier musicians...they played Prince music not their own. So that's a + for Mico And he had that non conformist, not black/not white thing about him-his vibe But I don't know of any direct contribution to Prince's music and writing Whereas it's pretty obvious and well know what contribution Wendy & Susannah Melvoin brought to Prince's music prince was boning susannah so she's going 2 b a influence on his music ..but amazing how susan moonsie was the main inspiration 4 his biggest hit ever ..when doves cry those were the good years, when women liks Susan M & Susannah Vanity & Jill inpired some of his best music Noon Rendezvous was dedicated to Sheila E at a 1st Avenue show and most of the Black album material was a birthday package for her But I don't know of any direct songs that were about her | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: polkadotbliss said:K.....
think I'll leave it there-as arguing with a ten year old aint my thing then y u agruing with urself then? PS-name 5 Miko songs we all know then.hell name just one-i sure as hell can't or a soundtrack HE scored..... stick 2 the subject of the thread please. this isn't about what mico has done after playing with prince. this is about questioning wendy's guitar playing  but since u can't gather that in4mation i'll guide u open ur ears and really listen 2 who's really funking things up or plays more melodic and NOT SLOPPY like wendy was known 2 do :
1. a love bizarre live from san francisco with sheila e (romance 1600 live) 2. now's the time (sign o' the times movie) 3. anna stesia (dortmund 88) 4. intro 2 do me baby - nude tour 5. small club 1988 sloppy xamples of wendy's playing has been documented on this thread if u dare 2 read ..but here's one of wendy's fuck ups that hasn't been said but it's so obvious: the america long version video when prince asks 4 the music 2 stop on the one ..oh who on guitar FUCKS UP THE SIGNAL AND PLAYS A NOTE? WENDY! AND-so how much influence on Prince's sound did Miko have then-compared to Wendy..... joni mitchell, james brown, sly and the family stone and dare i even say this, SONNY THOMPSON have had more lasting effects on prince's style than wendy has ever had being a session player is slightly diffrent to writing-and producing and being in demmand from other names that wanna work with you still today because their only claim 2 fame is playing with prince and even when they get interviewed 2 this day, interviewers want 2 know more about working with prince than their own music
he may be a good player-great-so long as the talent writes the stuff for him he's had about as much influence on Prince as you have-ie NONE unless ur a member or where at rehearsals, neither u nor I can tell what has influenced prince 2 write songs there-thats your bedtime story-now grab Tinky Winky and fuck off to bed
only if u promise 2 b as lame as the last 2 wendy and lisa albums  then take ur fancy lesbian shirt and stick it up ur ass since u don't know how 2 use toilet paper properly  OK I think this is going a bit to far off You don't like Wendy and Polkadotbliss does time to move on, cause in the end, Prince is still friends with Wendy, not us | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: "She brought Prince fans that I don't think P may have had otherwise".
Well said. She brought a different element up there in the frontline with P and Brown Mark. And a lot of girls that I knew (in 84-85) that didn't look like Madonna could easily dress up and look like Wendy and Lisa. I always thought back then that P and the Revolution were the 1984 version of Sly & The Family Stone. Same crossover idea, image and musical pop/funk/rock blend...just updated in a different era. Thanx and yeah brah, P's Purple Rain tour lineup is pure Sly and the Family Stone. Like u stated,...same crossover appeal, an amalgam of funk/rock/pop in the music, similar image with both bands having blacks and whites, males and females. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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OldFriends4Sale said:[quote]
Dez, his style music image was 'multicultural' where as other black guitarists later didn't have that. Oh but I do.   SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said:[quote] OldFriends4Sale said: Dez, his style music image was 'multicultural' where as other black guitarists later didn't have that. Oh but I do. Yeah I know U do, your an 80's product | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: nyse said: ^^^
good post There playing at the Brit Award show 2006 almost perfect too, it was actually Sheila that was off on the percussions here and there I've always thought Prince's music and shows shined with 'unpolished' people those early musicians in my opinion really reflected Prince's image sound and vision Also if she was 'weak' he really wouldn't have had her join the band, nor would he over the last 5-10yrs send music to her to add too, and we don't know even a quarter of what that is [Edited 8/22/09 13:33pm] Exactly my sentiment, that Brits performance captured the origninal spririt in the best possible way...some might call it sloppy playing I call it relaxed and funky...Wendy even polished TAC...with it. Best show beside SNL... Prince is perfect with his guitar playing that pefectness is too much to take sometimes and it needs an antipode to bring it to senses...Satriani, Steva Vai they all and many more play perfect but only through disharmony and lick out of the ordinary music starts to really get a life...that is what makes PR so great, the partial life recording intented to sound life... ONA was recorded life and the overdubs are there to make it perfect, doesn't work for me... I am more into the Power Trio aftershow from London...hardcore rip it up stuff...and boom. If you get me. Prince is perfect if he is concentrated that is too polished...it's sometimes even unreal because one can interpret playback which it is not...Electric Chair SNL if so great as it is...watch it. Superbowl isn't perfect but touching and real. I could go on...and on...Mike Scott is perfect but no antipode... "We are the freaks that want everything now!" | |
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nyse said: thebanishedone said: BlackguitaristZ thanks for a great replay.
I'm not saying she is bad,she just never was the player up to Prince's standards and i think if Dez stayed he would brought us better performances on Purple Rain songs. but remember Prince is not going to keep around someone who has the slightest chance of steeling the spotlight from him,,,, ----- Dez left because he became a born again christian. Not because he was stealing the spotlight. | |
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laurarichardson said: nyse said: but remember Prince is not going to keep around someone who has the slightest chance of steeling the spotlight from him,,,, ----- Dez left because he became a born again christian. Not because he was stealing the spotlight. Well to be fair,...Dez left in 83. Dez became a Born Again Christian 3 years prior to this during the Dirty Mind tour. So in Dez's words in his book, he didn't leave P because of that. If that was the case, he would have split right after the DM tour had ended. He would have bounced when Andre did. It was right BEFORE plans to start serious discussions about the Purple Rain project, that P came to Dez asking him if he wanted to continue. And if he DID, he would have to commit to seven years. Dez, who had been actively seeking a solo career while still playing with P since 80/81, P needed to know what Dez's long time plans were, especially having Wendy in the wings. In Dez's words, he was tired of being in the band and he felt that was the best time for him to truly split and try to make it as a solo artist. He said that he couldn't commit to 7 more years just being a sideman to Prince. So it was more to do with him really needing to strike out on his own than him being a Born Again Christian. [Edited 8/26/09 14:22pm] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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OldFriends4Sale said:[quote] blackguitaristz said: OldFriends4Sale said: Dez, his style music image was 'multicultural' where as other black guitarists later didn't have that. Oh but I do. Yeah I know U do, your an 80's product Yes, only in the sense that's where my playing and sense of style was first formed and developed. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: OldFriends4Sale said: Yeah I know U do, your an 80's product Yes, only in the sense that's where my playing and sense of style was first formed and developed. I'm with U, to me the 80's was serious fusion, there was a lot of fusion going on in music, jazz sometimes took on a pop sound:example:Diamonds by Herb Alpert featuring Janet, George Benson and a lot of other, RnB as well as 80's rap had a lot of rock fused into it and even rock took on pop or RnB vibes There was a lot of fusion going on in culture in the 80's MTV brought a lot of people into the genre of other musics they never heard before | |
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nyse said: I like how wendy play the doves cry solo...and the funk lick on the live
version of die 4 u I usually don't like When Doves Cry live I don't care who it is but I listened to it again for the 6.7.84 show and Wendy really duplicated the solo 2 a T | |
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hey leave my girl alone!  | |
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rbrpm said: hey leave my girl alone!
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OldFriends4Sale said: GirlBrother said: Agreed. When everybody in the band is too technically brilliant, that's when you get unnecessary three minute drum solos. lol right, and you loose the song at times, who wants to hear drum solos on Lady Cab Driver, just give me that simple beat with some Linn backing it up Something Prince said about Wendy in a 1985 interview Bobby Z was the first one to join. He's my best friend. Though he's not such a spectacular drummer, he watches me like no other drummer would. Sometimes, a real great drummer, like Morris, will be more concerned with the lick he is doing as opposed to how I am going to break it down. Mark Brown's just the best bass player I know, period. I wouldn't have anybody else. If he didn't play with me, I,d eliminate bass from my music. Same goes for Matt [Fink, the keyboard player]. He's more or less a technician. He can read and write like a whiz, and is one of the fastest in the world. And Wendy makes me seem all right in the eyes of people Watching. How so? She keeps a smile on her face. When I sneer, she smiles. It's not premeditated, she just does it. It's a good contrast. Lisa is like my sister. She'll play what the average person won't. She'll press two notes with one finger so the chord is a lot larger, things like that. She's more abstract. She's into Joni Mitchell, too. I long time ago I was invited to a church to hear some music:singing and there was this 'professional' woman singer who had the notes and pitchs just right, she could really sing, then there was this girl:Erica I still remember her name about 16 at the time, she cracked once or twice and didn't have the control the other lady had, but she brought the house down, she almost had me crying. Though he's not such a spectacular drummer, he watches me like no other drummer would.
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