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PrintableRegardless of popularity, whether it's a good choice for a single or not... I love this song. It's one of my favourites from this album.
It wasn't at first, but somehow I ended up slow dancing to it with my wife - who definitely gets better with time - in the kitchen, whilst dinner was cooking... It was one of those moments. | |
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daPrettyman said: purplecam said: If that's the case then that's sad and I don't think you are wrong. It's a youth driven market. The way music is going, we'll see them pushing and promoting a 5 year old as a heartthrob in no time at all. [Edited 8/21/09 9:44am] So true. The crazy thing is, in the 80s, it was not uncommon to see a 40 or 50 year old singer with a top 10 hit. It happened with The Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Cliff Richard, Smokey Robinson, etc. all had big hits in the 80s. Those days are long gone thanks to Hollywood's misconception that younger is better. So true, I have to agree with that. Even in the 90s, I remember Patti LaBelle and Luther was still getting a lot of radio play. | |
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daPrettyman said: purplecam said: If that's the case then that's sad and I don't think you are wrong. It's a youth driven market. The way music is going, we'll see them pushing and promoting a 5 year old as a heartthrob in no time at all. [Edited 8/21/09 9:44am] So true. The crazy thing is, in the 80s, it was not uncommon to see a 40 or 50 year old singer with a top 10 hit. It happened with The Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Cliff Richard, Smokey Robinson, etc. all had big hits in the 80s. Those days are long gone thanks to Hollywood's misconception that younger is better. And that's what makes me so angry. I was a kid in the 80's and I remember that. Tina Turner had the biggest hits of her career in the 80's and she was in her mid-40's and she got "better with time." There were so many acts past 40 like the ones you named that were having huge hits. There was room for everyone. I just hate that music is in a segreated state. If I was born later than 1989, I probably wouldn't be into as many acts and genres of music that I am as one born 10 years earlier. The kids are missing out on so much. People can talk about the Internet and all for music but there was nothing like sitting by your radio and hearing different tunes from different acts and genres on 1 radio station. I miss it so much. [Edited 8/21/09 9:56am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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laurarichardson said: "Radio only caters to major labels because they pay them off."
Of course P is going to have a hard time getting airplay due to not being backed by a major label but at this point you have so many ignorant people on this board it is a total waste of time to explain it to them. They simply don’t believe payola exsist. It does not matter in the end because P is still making more money off his CD than a lot of the other moron artist in the industry. I don't care if Prince gets played or not or even is #1 at the bank. If payola is true then Prince and WB's did a great job with payola in the 80's. If it's still around would it be in P's interest to continue to use payola/the major label scheme to get play? I would say no. It's more important to expose it for what it is. I would believe it would be more important for local radio to play local artists - so local club scene's thrive and up and coming musicians have a chance. Music is cultivated in clubs etc.. | |
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2elijah said: Smittyrock70 said: Two more stations have picked this up thus far WMXD - Detroit KMEZ - New Orleans [Edited 8/21/09 9:38am] Good to know they are being played. What time of stations are these Pop or RnB? KBLX - San Francisco is an independent r&b station. Prince believes he is a musical prophet that has been chosen by Jehova to guide his fans to the "truth". | |
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candy2277 said: I heard this song on comcast's music choice R&B channel, yesterday. I wondered was this his new single because usually when you hear songs there its a single release. I immediately thought of asking whether it was single or not on the org but decided not to because I didn't want people asking for my post to be locked. I was so happy to see it confirmed this morning on the org.
When I first thought about this song being a single choice, I was disappointed because I thought "Here" would be a better choice. I then began to play the cd. I played "Here" and "Better With Time" back and forth about 20 times. I couldn't believe how much better these songs sound to me, now. After a lot of thought, I came to a conclusion that "Better With Time" is a better single for R&B radio. It has a heavier gospel overtone to it, which R&B lovers will love. I believe Prince will have a R&B hit. If Maxwell can get a hit with "Pretty Wings", I don't see why Prince can't with "Better With Time". Actually, I do see where you the "gospel overtone" fits into the song, in the beginning, but does have more of a slow ballad sound, like many male groups, i.e., the Delfonics, Stylistics had back in the day, but yeah, good to know it's getting some airplay though. I agree as well with you that after listening to it again a couple of times, at least since the album has come out, that somehow I can appreciate the track now. [Edited 8/21/09 10:10am] | |
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candy2277 said: 2elijah said: Good to know they are being played. What time of stations are these Pop or RnB? KBLX - San Francisco is an independent r&b station. Oh okay, thanks for the info. | |
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This has got to be his most insane and ridiculous single choice ever.
I love the song, but it has absolutely zero commercial appeal whatsoever. Ah well, it's not like a Prince single means anything these days anyway.... | |
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2elijah said: Smittyrock70 said: Two more stations have picked this up thus far WMXD - Detroit KMEZ - New Orleans [Edited 8/21/09 9:38am] Good to know they are being played. What time of stations are these Pop or RnB? Basically Adult Urban R&B. |
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Smittyrock70 said: 2elijah said: Good to know they are being played. What time of stations are these Pop or RnB? Basically Adult Urban R&B. Thanks. Seems, according to your list, that quite a few are playing it. It will be interesting to see how many more will pick this single up. [Edited 8/21/09 10:12am] | |
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2elijah said: candy2277 said: I heard this song on comcast's music choice R&B channel, yesterday. I wondered was this his new single because usually when you hear songs there its a single release. I immediately thought of asking whether it was single or not on the org but decided not to because I didn't want people asking for my post to be locked. I was so happy to see it confirmed this morning on the org.
When I first thought about this song being a single choice, I was disappointed because I thought "Here" would be a better choice. I then began to play the cd. I played "Here" and "Better With Time" back and forth about 20 times. I couldn't believe how much better these songs sound to me, now. After a lot of thought, I came to a conclusion that "Better With Time" is a better single for R&B radio. It has a heavier gospel overtone to it, which R&B lovers will love. I believe Prince will have a R&B hit. If Maxwell can get a hit with "Pretty Wings", I don't see why Prince can't with "Better With Time". I don't think that it has so much of a "gospel overtone" but more of a slow ballad like many male groups like the Delfonics, Stylistics had back in the day, but yeah, good to know it's getting some airplay though. I agree as well with you that after listening to it again a couple of times, at least since the album has come out, that somehow I can appreciate the track now. Well we have to agree to disagree. I think you're saying this because it doesn't have the roaring or shouting type of gospel sound that is usually associated with gospel but not all gospel is like that. The Delfonics and Stylistics sound was gospel influenced as well. The harmonizing of male soul vocal groups was influenced by gospel groups. If you haven't, try listening to the Dixie Hummingbirds. Prince believes he is a musical prophet that has been chosen by Jehova to guide his fans to the "truth". | |
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candy2277 said: 2elijah said: I don't think that it has so much of a "gospel overtone" but more of a slow ballad like many male groups like the Delfonics, Stylistics had back in the day, but yeah, good to know it's getting some airplay though. I agree as well with you that after listening to it again a couple of times, at least since the album has come out, that somehow I can appreciate the track now. Well we have to agree to disagree. I think you're saying this because it doesn't have the roaring or shouting type of gospel sound that is usually associated with gospel but not all gospel is like that. The Delfonics and Stylistics sound was gospel influenced as well. The harmonizing of male soul vocal groups was influenced by gospel groups. If you haven't, try listening to the Dixie Hummingbirds. No, actually, that's not the reason, but I edited my last post to agree with you on the "gospel overtone" of BWT. I went back and listened to BWT, and I can hear the gospel overtone in the song, at the beginning and near the end as it picks up, Also, I'm also a hugh fan of 70s male groups and solo artists, mostly African-American, like the Delfonics, Stylistics, Black Ivory, Blue Magic, and older groups that my older siblings used to play in the house, etc., since that was my era, (yeah, I'm up there.  ), so the beautiful harmonies of the 70s male groups is something that I know and love.[Edited 8/21/09 10:22am] | |
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2elijah said: candy2277 said: Well we have to agree to disagree. I think you're saying this because it doesn't have the roaring or shouting type of gospel sound that is usually associated with gospel but not all gospel is like that. The Delfonics and Stylistics sound was gospel influenced as well. The harmonizing of male soul vocal groups was influenced by gospel groups. If you haven't, try listening to the Dixie Hummingbirds. No, actually, that's not the reason, but I edited my last post to agree with you on the "gospel overtone" of BWT. I went back and listened to BWT, and I can hear the gospel overtone in the song, at the beginning and near the end as it picks up, Also, I'm also a hugh fan of 70s male groups and solo artists, mostly African-American, like the Delfonics, Stylistics, Black Ivory, Blue Magic, and older groups that my older siblings used to play in the house, etc., since that was my era, (yeah, I'm up there. ), so the beautiful harmonies of the 70s male groups is something that I know and love.
[Edited 8/21/09 10:22am] Thanks I see your edited post. Yeah, those old school groups were great. Prince believes he is a musical prophet that has been chosen by Jehova to guide his fans to the "truth". | |
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candy2277 said: 2elijah said: No, actually, that's not the reason, but I edited my last post to agree with you on the "gospel overtone" of BWT. I went back and listened to BWT, and I can hear the gospel overtone in the song, at the beginning and near the end as it picks up, Also, I'm also a hugh fan of 70s male groups and solo artists, mostly African-American, like the Delfonics, Stylistics, Black Ivory, Blue Magic, and older groups that my older siblings used to play in the house, etc., since that was my era, (yeah, I'm up there. ), so the beautiful harmonies of the 70s male groups is something that I know and love.
[Edited 8/21/09 10:22am] Thanks I see your edited post. Yeah, those old school groups were great. Sure was, and their songs are timeless. Now I feel like breaking out some Delfonics. [Edited 8/21/09 10:44am] | |
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Smittyrock70 said: armybrat said: Hip Hop N More confirms that 'Better with Time' is the next single.
It officially goes for adds next week, 24th August to be precise. Thanks to the blog which takes keen interest in Prince and also is refreshingly accurate in its reports without relying on hype or controversy. http://hiphop-n-more.com/...with-time/ It's already getting early reports from nine radio stations that I'm tracking so far. WFUN - St. Louis WHUR - D.C. KNEK - Layfeyette KBLX - San Francisco WJTT - Chattanooga WBAV - Charlotte WQMG - Greensboro WSRB - Chicago WLBI - Birmingham . ...hey!!! GREAT JOB!!!!....I almost crashed my car..when i heard it on the radio in CHICAGO 
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laurarichardson said: funksterr said: I'm going to say it: That was an ignorant ass statement. His age and race prevents pop stations from playing his new music? Please. Y'all need to stop making up reasons why no one gives a care about new Prince music, other than P is as bland as can be now. I guess pop stations will not play Michael Jackson because of his age and race either. If Prince brings it for real he will have hits again. ----- Normally, I don’t waste my time discussing these issues with people like you. You know people who live in a fantasy world where everyone holds hands and sings Kumb Ya. (LOL) If you can name me one artist that is black or considered black that is 50 and over and gets play on pop stations I will admit I am wrong. You can’t use MJ since he was not getting any play in 2000 much less in 2009 until he died. I know you can’t name any because there are none getting airplay on POP stations and please do not include MOR stations. The artist have to have put out new music with in the last year or so. I want to know why you brought up his race as a factor. The pop charts are dominated by African American artists and urban/inner city sounds and dance styles for like the last 10 to 15 years. Why did you cite something as ignorant as his race being a hinderance on airplay? That's an extremely odd statement to make and you can't defend it. | |
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funksterr said: laurarichardson said: ----- Normally, I don’t waste my time discussing these issues with people like you. You know people who live in a fantasy world where everyone holds hands and sings Kumb Ya. (LOL) If you can name me one artist that is black or considered black that is 50 and over and gets play on pop stations I will admit I am wrong. You can’t use MJ since he was not getting any play in 2000 much less in 2009 until he died. I know you can’t name any because there are none getting airplay on POP stations and please do not include MOR stations. The artist have to have put out new music with in the last year or so. I want to know why you brought up his race as a factor. The pop charts are dominated by African American artists and urban/inner city sounds and dance styles for like the last 10 to 15 years. Why did you cite something as ignorant as his race being a hinderance on airplay? That's an extremely odd statement to make and you can't defend it. ----- Dude just the fact that you did not bother to answer my question about what over 50 black artists is getting played on Pop stations should answer your question. You do not think it is weird that Madonna is a white woman over 50 and she still gets some play on pop station. You would not think it was weird if Tina Turner came out with a CD tomorrow that was slamming that she would not get play on pop stations. What about Satanna he has put out a few CDs since 2000 and he does not get any play on pop stations? None of this seemed motivated by age, race demographics, and a lack of payola? Young black acts and mostly rappers get play not older actual musicians and singers. These artists have no chance of getting play on Pop stations. Our society is controlled by the majority race our society includes business, which includes radio stations, and record companies these business want to make money. They all spend millions of dollars trying to figure out how to get people with the most money to buy CDs and buy something based on all those radio commercials. I can guarantee you that older black folk are not who pop radio stations and record companies are trying to appeal to. We simply do not fit into the demographics they are trying to reach therefore, artist that would appeal to the over 40 set and her performing RnB music are not going to get played on POP stations. It is no different than an RnB station not playing Milley Cyrus or the Jonas Brothers. These groups do not have an appeal in the African-American community. In fact, the Bros and Miley are so horrible I doubt if they would have record deals at all, if they were black and I know payola has got to be one of the reason pop stations play their music. (LOL) This is America and race still plays a role in things not as much as it use to but trust me large sections of America don't want to hear any RnB music at all. | |
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MattyJam said: This has got to be his most insane and ridiculous single choice ever.
I love the song, but it has absolutely zero commercial appeal whatsoever. Ah well, it's not like a Prince single means anything these days anyway.... ----- It is not like you know what the fuck your talking about as usual. People are showing you that the song is being added to RnB stations yet you keep posting nonsense. | |
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laurarichardson said: This is America and race still plays a role in things not as much as it use to but trust me large sections of America don't want to hear any RnB music at all.
True, and not unless it's sung by Justin Timberlake, Amy Winehouse, Duffy or Adele. [Edited 8/21/09 12:38pm] | |
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Cool. It'll be nice to here some Prince on the radio again. And you never really know what the public will go 4 or not. I thought TMBGITW would not do well but it went #1. I thought Black Sweat would do well and didn't get nearly the play it deserved. So, lets just sit back and let the market take its course. Change it one more time.. | |
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Did anyone notice that it said this was being released via NPG/Columbia? I wonder if he signed another distribution deal with Columbia? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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lezama said: Cool. It'll be nice to here some Prince on the radio again. And you never really know what the public will go 4 or not. I thought TMBGITW would not do well but it went #1. I thought Black Sweat would do well and didn't get nearly the play it deserved. So, lets just sit back and let the market take its course.
Dude, I thought the exact same way with both songs and look what happened. I believe in my heart that at some point in time, Prince will have a smash hit song. Whenever that day is, I will be super happy. In the meantime, I'm still digging his groove and that matter more than anything. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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daPrettyman said: Did anyone notice that it said this was being released via NPG/Columbia? I wonder if he signed another distribution deal with Columbia?
Really? Where do you see that? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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daPrettyman said: Did anyone notice that it said this was being released via NPG/Columbia? I wonder if he signed another distribution deal with Columbia?
----- He may have Columbia help with the promotion. It would explain why the song is getting on the radio at all. | |
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purplecam said: daPrettyman said: Did anyone notice that it said this was being released via NPG/Columbia? I wonder if he signed another distribution deal with Columbia?
Really? Where do you see that? In the link that was in the original post. It said that it was being released via NPG/Columbia. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: purplecam said: Really? Where do you see that? In the link that was in the original post. It said that it was being released via NPG/Columbia. That's certainly interesting if true. Especially after what happened with "Planet Earth". I would have thought Columbia would have been upset enough about that situation where they'd be wary to work with him again. |
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moderatorMilitant said: daPrettyman said: In the link that was in the original post. It said that it was being released via NPG/Columbia. That's certainly interesting if true. Especially after what happened with "Planet Earth". I would have thought Columbia would have been upset enough about that situation where they'd be wary to work with him again. Me too, that's why this news is so surprising. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Militant said: daPrettyman said: In the link that was in the original post. It said that it was being released via NPG/Columbia. That's certainly interesting if true. Especially after what happened with "Planet Earth". I would have thought Columbia would have been upset enough about that situation where they'd be wary to work with him again. I don't think Columbia in the US was upset with him. I think it was only the European part. This still makes me wonder if they didn't make amends, or Prince really pays them well for the distribution. It makes me wonder if they are going to be issuing the cd in all major stores and outlets. I wonder will the packaging be different? [Edited 8/21/09 13:34pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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As much as i like the old Prince sound, the Linn is way too distracting on this track, the vocals are some of his best in the longest time, but are burried in an overdone "is the water warm enough" tahww sound.
Good vocals but forgetable song. | |
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The whole post is BULLSHIT. NPG/Columbia Red Flag right there.
Did you guys even read the TEXT????? Those who visit HHNM regularly would know how big a P stan I am. So here goes the latest from the legend. ‘Better With Time’ which is track number 6 form his MPLSoUND disc of LotusFlow3r album will be released as a single to the Urban AC radio. One of the standout tracks on that disc goes to adds next week(24th August) via NPG/Columbia. yea, what a "professional" blog. It's fairly obvious the person who posted this runs the blog and you guys have been giving him hits the entire day. At least that other orger blogger's site is professional and if there are spelling errors that shit is fixed good n plenty fast. Doesn't mean I like it, just means it is more on point. Just because a song has been added to radio does not mean it is going for ads. This just seems like a play for AC radio stations but this blogger is full of shit. bamboozled. you are slippin! you guys used to catch this stuff really quick. [Edited 8/21/09 13:42pm] | |
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