Hey, Purplecam, as I was surfing through 98.7 kiss, I checked their playlist this morning and noticed they played "When Doves Cry" and "Kiss", so just good knowing they're still fans of Prince's music and still includes his songs on their list. At 7:35am, and at 3:37 am they played "KISS". Whomever the radio personality was on at the time, at least plays some Prince music, even if it's the classics. Matter of fact, I'm liking their playlist, they play a lot of songs from back in the day..real music. Check out their latest playlist: Rick James, SOS Band, Maxwell, Black Byrds (Rock Creek Park<---.What??. )Stevie Wonder, Color Me Bad, MJ, Frankie Beverly, Anita Baker, etc.,

http://www.987kissfm.com/...story.aspx
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purplecam said:

I'm going to say it: That was an ignorant ass statement. His age and race prevents pop stations from playing his new music? Please. Y'all need to stop making up reasons why no one gives a care about new Prince music, other than P is as bland as can be now. I guess pop stations will not play Michael Jackson because of his age and race either. If Prince brings it for real he will have hits again.

2elijah said:

Thanks for that 2elijah. I like their choice of songs on there. I just wish that they had streaming radio cause I want to listen to D.L Hughley's show when I'm at work.

Damn, i thought Dance 4 me was his next single, oh well, another frustrating choice of a release, a bomber for sure

laurarichardson said:

I think that even if Madonna didn't put out an album within the past 5 or 6 years, pop stations would still play her music because of the fan base she developed over the years ould demand it.

purplecam said:

I believe they do. I used to listen to it online. Check out the site and find where you can listen to the show online. I believe DL comes on early, like 6am until 10am. Shaila comes on around 10am to 2pm. Keisha is no longer there apparently, but Keisha was the one, who played "Call My Name" from 2004 - early 2007, a lot, when she was there.
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Yea I agree that it's a bad choice. Some are comparing this to when "Call My Name" was receiving pretty decent r&b airplay. However, the thing with "Call My Name," and even "Future Baby Mama," is that they're just better-written songs. They have an old soul feel with heartfelt lyrics and chorusus that people want to sing along to. "Better With Time" just feels really slow and monotonous and it doesn't really go anywhere until that ending that just sort of builds out of nowhere and sounds a little awkward and cheesy. Though in some ways it's kind of "Adore"-esque in that regard, which is always a good thing.

I just think that it's an ok album track, but a single it is not. "U're Gonna C Me" would be a better choice if he's shooting for r&b radio. I'd love to be proven wrong here because I want the guy's new music to be heard by more than the handful of us who still care about it. However, I just don't think it's going to make waves. He should take polls on lotusflow3r.com so the fans can have input about these things. Though, many here are saying "Dance 4 Me" should be a single which is pretty laughable, even though I love it. Radio wouldn't touch anything on the entire LOTUSFLOW3R package but that's OK! Radio sucks anyway. Prince is just kind of out of touch to believe that "you can put anything from MPLSoUND on the radio tomorrow," or whatever he said on Tavis.

funksterr said:

I want to believe that but I'm starting to wonder. Even if he had some hot fly-by-night producer working on his stuff and the music is hot, will they still play it? They could ignore it too. I don't know but what was said about age and race can't be impossible. I may be wrong but I don't see how that can't be a factor.

They are playing Michael Jackson's stuff right now because he's dead and his death has made him flavor of the moment. Man in The Mirror was nowhere near a pop radio station 3 months ago. Besides it's the old stuff getting airplay, not much from Invincible in 2001. And you're saying Prince's music is bland, so you are telling me that the stuff on the radio now isn't? Sit down with that one. Also, what 50 year old other than Madonna is getting airplay on the pop stations right now? Mmmmm.
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2elijah said:

Well I'm going to do that on Monday for D.L.'s show.

piepie1976 said:

I'm with you in that he should get our imput but we know that's not going to happen. I also agree that you can't put anything from MPLSound on the radio, as much as I love that CD. Better With Time to me is the proof, but P has proved me wrong before and I hope he does it again with this.

funksterr said:

Personally, I think it's age more-so than race. Pop radio in my area doesn't play Madonna much either "4 Minutes" got play because of JT, but her other singles didn't even get played.

The truth is that POP is all about youth. Though Prince is writing good songs, he is not appealing to the average 12-17 year old.

I would just love prince to release the right track that would blow everyone away, but he is not bothered now at this stage, i would love him to have the success of a gett off or cream single, in the form of dance 4 me, or here. Radio stations in Ireland don't really play R n B so the airplay will for certain be non existent!

laurarichardson said:

People seem 2 4get Madonna has been pushed by a major label her whole career. Prince took a big chance going independent. Radio doesn't embrace most independent artist unless they go major. Madonna has that advantage. But that don't mean she makes much profit like Prince has independently.

The songs that radio has played since Prince left Warners. Were only songs he made with major labels. Like The Musicology project, "Musicology", "Call my name". Radio only caters to major labels because they pay them off. That is why U hear the same songs over and over again. Prince is trying to break that cycle. But its a tough road and I'm sure he is frustrated with it[i]

funksterr said:

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Normally, I don’t waste my time discussing these issues with people like you. You know people who live in a fantasy world where everyone holds hands and sings Kumb Ya. (LOL)



If you can name me one artist that is black or considered black that is 50 and over and gets play on pop stations I will admit I am wrong. You can’t use MJ since he was not getting any play in 2000 much less in 2009 until he died.
I know you can’t name any because there are none getting airplay on POP stations and please do not include MOR stations. The artist have to have put out new music with in the last year or so.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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"Radio only caters to major labels because they pay them off."

Of course P is going to have a hard time getting airplay due to not being backed by a major label but at this point you have so many ignorant people on this board it is a total waste of time to explain it to them.
They simply don’t believe payola exsist.

It does not matter in the end because P is still making more money off his CD than a lot of the other moron artist in the industry.

purplecam said:

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"Also, what 50 year old other than Madonna is getting airplay on the pop stations right now? Mmmmm."

I will answer that question "NONE"

daPrettyman said:

But the average 12-17 year old isn't being exposed to Prince either. If they heard what he was doing now, I'm sure some of them would dig it. All I want is exposure, nothing more or less. Let the kids hear it and decide for themselves.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That's another great point made KCool. I wish that for all the talk Prince does about Radio and all labels, he would start a Coalition or some organisation to get Independant artists played on the radio. Something where he actively is fighting for not just his rights but others too in the industry for artist rights or whatever, not just talking about it in an interview and doing nothing about it.

purplecam said:

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Well a coalition would have to pool their money to make the payola payments and I wonder how that would go over with the major record companies.

laurarichardson said:

Good question Payola has done quite a job with radio.

purplecam said:

I'm not disagreeing with you, but you have to look at from a slightly different perspective. "Sex Symbols" and "Teen Idols" are not 50 year olds. I'm not saying that if they were exposed to Prince's music that they wouldn't like it, but they want a visual to go with the song...not just the music.

I think, we as Prince fans, have to realize that Prince's hey-day of getting big radio play is over. It's been over since about 94 or 95. Not because of his music, but because he no longer fits into that "teen heart-throb" category. That is why he releases singles to Urban AC and AC formats.

Smittyrock70 said:

Two more stations have picked this up thus far

WMXD - Detroit
KMEZ - New Orleans
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Nice - I love this song it reminds me of the "For You" and "Prince" 79 albums.

daPrettyman said:

If that's the case then that's sad and I don't think you are wrong. It's a youth driven market. The way music is going, we'll see them pushing and promoting a 5 year old as a heartthrob in no time at all.
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purplecam said:

I can't hear the station at work, it may be blocked, but I'll try to see if it streams on my home computer. Anyway, it looks like they play quite a few Prince classics, would be nice if they throw in some current Prince songs.

Whether or not it is a good choice for a promotional single, the overall context of Prince's promotional efforts for this project has been completely dismal, starting with his use of the web. His unwillingness to utilize his own web presence, as well as other common promotional outlets online (social media, etc.), to promote his music casts a long shadow--makes his single choice really of little relevance in the bigger picture.

purplecam said:

So true.

The crazy thing is, in the 80s, it was not uncommon to see a 40 or 50 year old singer with a top 10 hit. It happened with The Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Cliff Richard, Smokey Robinson, etc. all had big hits in the 80s. Those days are long gone thanks to Hollywood's misconception that younger is better.

NuPwrSoul said:

Sadly, you're right.

Smittyrock70 said:

Good to know they are being played. What time of stations are these Pop or RnB?

I heard this song on comcast's music choice R&B channel, yesterday. I wondered was this his new single because usually when you hear songs there its a single release. I immediately thought of asking whether it was single or not on the org but decided not to because I didn't want people asking for my post to be locked. I was so happy to see it confirmed this morning on the org.


When I first thought about this song being a single choice, I was disappointed because I thought "Here" would be a better choice. I then began to play the cd. I played "Here" and "Better With Time" back and forth about 20 times. I couldn't believe how much better these songs sound to me, now. After a lot of thought, I came to a conclusion that "Better With Time" is a better single for R&B radio. It has a heavier gospel overtone to it, which R&B lovers will love. I believe Prince will have a R&B hit. If Maxwell can get a hit with "Pretty Wings", I don't see why Prince can't with "Better With Time".