hi all

so i was looking at a boot yesterday and i'm a little confused

its The Dawn v4 i think-but it seems to just be official stuff put together in a new way to the original releases.....

i don't get it-cuz im reading rave reviews of it in this format.....

is it really that great-i mean i like the material anyway-but don't get the why to this release

but the brill reviews are making me curious-i don't usually go for boots of official stuff

if anyone has it ( lol-if....) why is it so good

damn..

17 views-no replies

i'm gonna get shouted at for mentioning this-i know i am

my first 'boot' thread.....

lol-and my last

17 views and no replies because the Dawn was supposed to happen 9 years ago

lol

so i probably shouldn't post the track list i was given-its fan made i know out 2008-pretty impressive

polkadotbliss said:

you could always post the "pretend" track list

act 1: come (disc 1)
prologue: the welcome experience:
01. welcome 2 the dawn (2:08 )
part 1: the wild experience:
02. npg operator (0:12)
03. come (4:22)
04. endorphin machine (3:51)
05. space (5:08 )
06. we march (4:43)
07. days of wild (7:17)
part 2: the beautiful experience:
08. npg operator (0:17)
09. the most beautiful girl in the world (6:20)
10. the pope (4:33)
11. ripopgodazippa (4:37)
12. npg operator (0:06)
13. race (8:21)
14. empty room (3:16)
part 3: the mad experience:
15. npg operator (0:07)
16. mad (5:29)
17. rock & roll is alive! (4:31)
18. shhh (6:58 )
19. strays of the world (4:41)

act 2: chaos (disc 2)
part 1: the control experience:
01. pussy control (5:38 )
02. npg operator (0:09)
03. peach (3:05)
04. chaos & disorder (4:12)
05. shy (4:55)
part 2: the pheromone experience:
06. npg operator (0:15)
07. pheromone (4:28 )
08. 319 (3:19)
09. hide the bone (5:06)
10. 18 & over (6:22)
11. npg operator (0:14)
12. lemme see that body get loose! (4:32)

part 3: the hate experience:
13. papa (2:57)
14. dark (5:30)
15. npg operator (0:06)
16. billy jack bitch (8:26)
17. eye hate u (8:51)
18. let it go (5:37)
19. don’t talk 2 strangers (3:12)

act 3: gold (disc 3)
part 1: the interactive experience:
01. interactive (3:02)
02. acknowledge me (7:10)
03. npg operator (0:10)
04. somebody’s somebody (3:42)
05. love sign (4:36)
part 2: the now experience:
06. what’s my name? (3:02)
07. the ride (8:44)
08. zannalee (2:46)
09. npg operator (0:20)
10. now (4:29)
11. face down (2:19)
part 3: the dolphin experience:
12. npg operator (0:13)
13. 2morrow (4:19)
14. the same december (3:27)
15. extraordinary (2:26)
16. dolphin (6:18 )
17. come (part 2) (11:50)
epilogue: the gold experience:
18. npg operator (0:39)
19. gold (7:28 )

allegedly.....

it does sound-well i should say-it does LOOK rather good

Well worth getting, I listen to it a lot. A lot of the material is alternate mixes to what are on the albums. It's all sequenced together and mixed very well, with each disc flowing pretty seamlessly from song to song.

TheEnglishGent said:

This isn't an official boot but a fan made mix that circulated. It's the damn bomb though

see-everyone loves it

sod it-im getting it

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

polkadotbliss said:

If someone is charging you, remind them that they probably got it for free and to pay it forward no charge!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Silly goose.

©TheDataBank

This set is available in lossless Flac - Free.

squirrelgrease said:

Oh, well I guess I know a bootlegger then

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

No, I was just remaking on the term "official boot". It just made me

polkadotbliss said:

I worked on my own version of this covering that period for a long time and someone posted this.

It's a great idea, but I don't particularly care for the tracklisting and some of the stuff included here is too old or too new to really capture what it's trying to do. or what I would do I guess.

IMO, of course.

The Dawn v. 3.3: (I don't know about a version 4??)....

disc 1:
01. WELCOME 2 THE DAWN (2:08 ) – edit of the track available on ‘The Truth’. (intro noise reinstated)
02. npg operator (0:12)
03. COME (PART 1) (4:22) – mix created using the Beautiful Experience remix (Deposition) and the original version (FAAB).
04. ENDORPHIN MACHINE (3:50) – taken from the Come original test pressing.
05. SPACE (5:10) – mix created using the album version, with snall bits from the Universal Love Mix and the Funky Stuff remix.
06. WE MARCH (4:43) - taken from 'The Gold Experience' (intro and outro crossfades)
07. DAYS OF WILD (7:17) – mix created using the released live version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the guitar solo from one of the AHDIO Shows from NPGMC year 1.
08. npg operator (0:17)
09. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD (6:20) – mix of ‘The Gold Experience’ album version and the unreleased ‘Mustang 96 Remix’ (The Work), now also includes saxophone parts taken from the 'Sax Mix/Brian's Mix' and Mayte's spanish version: 'Quieres Ser El Mas Bello De Este Mundo'.
10. THE POPE (4:33) – mix created using the album version from ‘The Hits 2’, the promo only 12” remix, a drum loop from ‘Acknowledge Me’ (barely noticable) and a burst of ‘D.M.S.R.’ from the ‘1999’ album.
11. RIPOPGODAZIPPA (4:37) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’.
12. npg operator (0:06)
13. RACE (8:21) – mix created using the video version (from the Beautiful Experience TV special) and the ‘Outta Space’ part of the unreleased NPG version of ‘Super Hero’ from the ‘Exodus’ sessions (Fantasia).
14. EMPTY ROOM (3:16) – unreleased track (The Work)
15. npg operator (0:07)
16. MAD (5:29) – unreleased track (Deposition). full length version reinstated from 3.1 version
17. ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE (4:31) – b-side to ‘Gold’, pitch shifted up a semitone to get it in the right key.
18. SHHH (6:58 ) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’
19. STRAYS OF THE WORLD (4:41) – edit of the track released on ‘Crystal Ball’ (Drum/fanfare intro ommitted and opening keyboard section extended.)

disc 2:
01. PUSSY CONTROL (5:38 ) – the VH1 Fashion Awards version (The Work), intro uses a snippet of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’.
02. npg operator (0:09)
03. PEACH (3:05) – edit of the version from ‘The Hits 2’ and parts of ‘The Purple Medley’
04. CHAOS & DISORDER (4:12) – unreleased original version (FAAB), pitch shifted up to the same key as ‘Peach’ (intro also extended by 1 bar).
05. SHY (4:55) – new mix created by using the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and loops from the unreleased original mix (FAAB).
06. npg operator (0:15)
07. PHEROMONE (4:28 ) – taken from ‘Come’, with the addition of a few seconds from the unreleased instrumental version (Cosmos).
08. 319 (3:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’, including the ‘hotel lobby’ intro (which is how it was originally intended to appear on the released album, as the intro was specifically created to make the song last exactly 3:19).
09. HIDE THE BONE (5:06) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’
10. 18 & OVER (6:22) – original unreleased longer version (Fantasia), edited slightly at the end to create an ‘ending’ rather than a fade out.
11. npg operator (0:14)
12. LEMME SEE THAT BODY GET LOOSE (4:32) – remix created using ‘Loose!’ from ‘Come’ and the unreleased instrumental ‘(Lemme See Your Body) Get Loose!’ (Fantasia). (Loosely based on various live renditions from around the time).
13. PAPA (2:57) – taken from ‘Come’ now includes rain/thunder sound effects segue into...
14. DARK - taken from 'Come'
15. npg operator (0:06)
16. BILLY JACK BITCH (8:26) – new mix using the album version from 'The Gold Experience', the unreleased ‘full length’ version (The Work), the Hornheads' 'New Dell Inn' and 'Bitch' sample from Fishbone's 'Lyin' Ass Bitch'. drum loop lifted from Graham Central Station's 'Love 4 1another' (which was lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' in the first place anyway), had to do this as no clean loop can be lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' itself
17. I HATE U (8:51) – mix created using ‘The Gold Experience’ version and the ‘Extended Remix’, now updated slightly with drum samples from the album version played over parts taken from the 'Extended Remix' to add continuity.
18. LET IT GO (5:29) – taken from ‘Come’, street noises on outro taken from the outro to ‘Lady Cab Driver’ from ‘1999’.
19. DON’T TALK 2 STRANGERS (3:12) – taken from the ‘Girl 6’ sountrack.

disc 3:
01. INTERACTIVE (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’
02. ACKNOWLEDGE ME (7:10) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the ‘Big City Remix’ of the NPG’s ‘The Good Life’. now also includes parts from the unreleased original edit of the song, plus a sample from the 'Pope (Remix)'.
03. npg operator (0:10)
04. SOMEBODY’S SOMEBODY (3:42) – the released ‘Livestudio Mix’ (promo / b-side to ‘The Holy River CD single).
05. LOVE SIGN (4:36) – the ‘1-800-NEW-FUNK’ version, edited slightly to create an actual ‘ending’ to the song. (Intro segue features snippet of the unreleased ‘Mack Attack Message Mix’ over street sounds and gunshots taken from various sound effects discs)
06. WHAT’S MY NAME (3:02) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, with the addition of the unreleased spoken “welcome 2 the dawn” intro (Deposition).
07. THE RIDE (8:44) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the unreleased version from ‘The Undertaker’ album, intro drums cleaned up a bit and start of song now extended by a couple of bars using loop of the beat with odd keyboard and guitar parts from the later breakdown section spun in.
08. Zannalee (2:46) - unreleased original version.
09. npg operator (0:20)
10. NOW (4:29) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. no longer edited down
11. FACE DOWN (2:19) – remix made using the promo only ‘Acapella Mix’ and loops from ‘Now’. intro now extended slightly due to different segue point with previous track
12. npg operator (0:13)
13. 2MORROW (4:19) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, full version reinstated from 3.1 version
14. THE SAME DECEMBER (3:27) – taken from ‘Chaos And Disorder’.
15. EXTRAORDINARY (2:26) – taken from ‘The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale’ (birdsong outro from a sound effects disc).
16. DOLPHIN (6:18 ) – mix of the released version from ‘Come’ and the unreleased version’s outro from ‘The Undertaker’ album.
17. COME (PART 2) (11:50) – mix created using the released version from ‘Come’ (full album version now used rather than edit) and the unreleased (as a whole track) ‘Poem’ from the Come Original test pressing,
18. npg operator (0:39)
19. GOLD (7:28 ) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.


the differences
These are the differences/additions to the NEW DAWN VERSION: (in bold)

Disc1:
01. WELCOME 2 THE DAWN (2:08 ) – edit of the track available on ‘The Truth’. (intro noise reinstated)
06. WE MARCH (4:43) - taken from 'The Gold Experience' (intro and outro crossfades)
09. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD (6:20) – mix of ‘The Gold Experience’ album version and the unreleased ‘Mustang 96 Remix’ (The Work), now also includes saxophone parts taken from the 'Sax Mix/Brian's Mix' and Mayte's spanish version: 'Quieres Ser El Mas Bello De Este Mundo'.
16. MAD (5:29) – unreleased track (Deposition). full length version reinstated from 3.1 version


Disc2:
05. SHY (4:55) – new mix created by using the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and loops from the unreleased original mix (FAAB).
13. PAPA (2:57) – taken from ‘Come’ now includes rain/thunder sound effects segue intro...
14. DARK - taken from 'Come'
16. BILLY JACK BITCH (8:26) – new mix using the album version from 'The Gold Experience', the unreleased ‘full length’ version (The Work), the Hornheads' 'New Dell Inn' and 'Bitch' sample from Fishbone's 'Lyin' Ass Bitch'. drum loop lifted from Graham Central Station's 'Love 4 1another' (which was lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' in the first place anyway), had to do this as no clean loop can be lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' itself
17. I HATE U (8:51) – mix created using ‘The Gold Experience’ version and the ‘Extended Remix’, now updated slightly with drum samples from the album version played over parts taken from the 'Extended Remix' to add continuity.

Disc3:
02. ACKNOWLEDGE ME (7:10) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the ‘Big City Remix’ of the NPG’s ‘The Good Life’. now also includes parts from the unreleased original edit of the song, plus a sample from the 'Pope (Remix)'.
07. THE RIDE (8:44) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the unreleased version from ‘The Undertaker’ album, intro drums cleaned up a bit and start of song now extended by a couple of bars using loop of the beat with odd keyboard and guitar parts from the later breakdown section spun in.
08. Zannalee (2:46) - unreleased original version.
10. NOW (4:29) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. no longer edited down
11. FACE DOWN (2:19) – remix made using the promo only ‘Acapella Mix’ and loops from ‘Now’. intro now extended slightly due to different segue point with previous track
13. 2MORROW (4:19) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, full version reinstated from 3.1 version
16. COME (PART 2) (11:50) – mix created using the released version from ‘Come’ (full album version now used rather than edit)

CREDITS: taken from housequake.com (R.I.P. HQ )
[Edited 8/17/09 19:08pm]

The newest version is 4.1

So was this meant to be some official release or am I missing the point

Yeah, Four Point One, it is.

I always thought this was a very grand collection of a certain period.

jcurley said:

I don't think it was ever meant as an official release, at least not in this configuration. Prince did at one point mention an album called the dawn but I'm not sure how much was known about it.

TheEnglishGent said:

I have a promo cassette of The Holy River that was given out at Borders (I got mine at P's outdoor show at the Mill City Music Festival in 1999).

On the cassette it says in regards to the track "Welcome 2 The Dawn - Acoustic Version" - Taken from the 4thcoming album The Dawn. We all know that this track ended up on The Truth. But the title for an album The Dawn was obviously kicked around by Prince. Though, the tracks on this bootleg are in no way related to a Prince configuration of an album called The Dawn.



Catalog# 4PRO-11690
1. The Holy River - Edit 4:00
2. Welcome 2 The Dawn - Acoustic Version 3:17

Prince has had an album called "The Dawn" in the works for donkey's years
on and off. At least 3 incarnations are known (and there were probably more).
The first was back in 1986, when several tracks were recorded for the project
like "When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes", "Crucial" and "Coco Boys". The Dawn
was also mentioned as a film project as well as an album and this idea actually
surfaced again in 1989 too, eventually merging with/getting replaced by Graffiti
Bridge.

The idea of an album called "The Dawn" appeared again around 1994, this time
rumored to be a triple album. It was going to consist of tracks that would
eventually get officially released on Come and The Gold Experience (it was for
this project that all the NPG operator segues were recorded for). Though, being
caught up in the name change and fight with WB, the ideas for this version came
and went and changed several times (it was also mentioned to be the collective
name for a series of 7 track "experience" mini-albums too). The idea for
releasing a triple album called The Dawn was shelved when it became apparent
that this couldn't be done free of WB at that time. Though when Prince did
release his first post-WB album, it was no coincidence that it was still a
triple album (even though the title had changed).

The idea then appeared again in 1996, only this time it even got officially
mentioned by Prince as being the follow-up to Emancipation. So it certainly
looked like this incarnation of the project was probably virtually finished
before being shelved again. "The Dawn" continues to be a project that Prince
works on even now, but I doubt that he will release an album with that title
until he's happy that it's contents are absolutely stellar and will be viewed
as his best ever album and crowning achievement (a tall order for any album
to fulfill).

.
[Edited 8/20/09 1:32am]

BorisFishpaw said:

and by that point, he'll have put out so many sub-par albums made up of stuff that's not good enough to get onto the next opus that nobody will even care.

BorisFishpaw said:

@ donkey's years

Love the post. Great info, as always. Well, at least we know what album The Divine will end up on.