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Reply #30 posted 08/19/09 11:34pm

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Reply #31 posted 08/20/09 12:40am

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blackguitaristz said:


P suggested that they DRESS in that fashion and even that didn't stick when they performed live.

Yeah, i accidently forgot it was that what Prince suggested to them. My bad lol.
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Reply #32 posted 08/20/09 12:42am

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are there whites who got geri curls...oops, this post must be for people blessed with lots of melanin only

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Reply #33 posted 08/20/09 12:42am

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Imago said:


A classic already lol
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Reply #34 posted 08/20/09 12:46am

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NelsonR said:

are there whites who got geri curls...oops, this post must be for people blessed with lots of melanin only

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Reply #35 posted 08/20/09 1:09am

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NelsonR said:

are there whites who got geri curls...oops, this post must be for people blessed with lots of melanin only

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In the late 80s, after I was grown and could do what I wanted to do, I got a perm (perms for us, is curly hair). Every now and then, I would put activator in it to give it a wet jheri curl look. That was just one of my many looks though. During some of the times that I had a perm, I would get a curling iron and run it down each of those curls and straighten them. My mother used to get so mad at me and ask why did I get a perm in the first place if I was just going to turn around and straighten my hair with a curling iron. Well, my natural straight hair was too slick, in other words "too white" looking, and straightening the curly perm made it straight but coarser and more "black looking". Oh, the phases I used to go through in my teens and 20s. lol

My favorite incident was in the early 1990s when I went to renew my driver's license. I knew they were going to be taking my picture so I had my hair absolutely laid that day. They had typed a "B" over in the race section and I had to correct them and get them to print another license. lol
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Reply #36 posted 08/20/09 1:29am

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In the late 80s, after I was grown and could do what I wanted to do, I got a perm (perms for us, is curly hair). Every now and then, I would put activator in it to give it a wet jheri curl look. That was just one of my many looks though. During some of the times that I had a perm, I would get a curling iron and run it down each of those curls and straighten them. My mother used to get so mad at me and ask why did I get a perm in the first place if I was just going to turn around and straighten my hair with a curling iron. Well, my natural straight hair was too slick, in other words "too white" looking, and straightening the curly perm made it straight but coarser and more "black looking". Oh, the phases I used to go through in my teens and 20s. lol

My favorite incident was in the early 1990s when I went to renew my driver's license. I knew they were going to be taking my picture so I had my hair absolutely laid that day. They had typed a "B" over in the race section and I had to correct them and get them to print another license. lol
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weird, but i guess thar settles it.
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Reply #37 posted 08/20/09 2:07am

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Shango said:

Imago said:


A classic already lol


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Reply #38 posted 08/20/09 2:11am

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NelsonR said:

are there whites who got geri curls...oops, this post must be for people blessed with lots of melanin only

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The Jheri Curl was named after a white dude. Yes. It's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ri_Redding

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Reply #39 posted 08/20/09 3:58am

LittleNicci

eh me !!! only yesterday actually !!! heheheheh no but I did get curls

curls get girls donchat know - although I am a girl and don't want another girl
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Reply #40 posted 08/20/09 12:57pm

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YEP!!! You are absolutely right!! Thats precisely what I'm talkin about! lol. I noticed that too. My mom had a business doing jheri curls. She only had a few customers. When 1999 and purple rain came out, her business doubled. LOLOLOL!!! whew!! House use to STINK cuz of the way that stuff smelled.

SPYZFAN1 said:

lol..that's interesting B. Yeah a lot of brothers (who were musicians) that I knew started getting their hair "chemically treated" right around the time "1999" came out.

And when "P.R." hit the theaters, they started going full blast. Jheri curls, lace styled clothes, long coats, frilly shirts, their girlfriend's eyeliner, you name it. They were aiming for that "purple vibe" because it was getting them noticed. Some of the black local rock bands were even ditching their "hard rock" sound and going for the synth/guitar/funk/Linn sound..hey, that was the sign of the times (no pun intended) at the moment.


And yes, you DIDN'T dare laugh at the jheri curled gangsters that were hanging out on the school playground playing basketball. That would have invited a real ass whoopin'. But as you said B it was a style. And that was the style back then.

lol..Maybe P saw what was going on in early 85 and said "Damn..people are biting my style..I need to re-invent"..and in a cool and slick way he did.

Jesse and Morris had a duo?..Wow..never knew that!
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Reply #41 posted 08/20/09 12:58pm

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LOL!!! No you didn't just put up a pic of Stony Jackson. LOLOL!!! he was the poster boy for Jheri Curls. LOL. Hell I remember when Ez E and Ice Cube use to sport them curls. How in the HELL was that a tuff hair style? LOL>

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Reply #42 posted 08/20/09 1:01pm

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Cool good lookin out. I appreciate that info.

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minneapolisFunq said:

Mazarati werent wannabes

they adopted that look after prince signed them to paisley park because he suggested it.

P suggested that they DRESS in that fashion and even that didn't stick when they performed live. They wore jeans when I saw them at The Palace in Hollywood. Mazarati were already a band back in 82 and were popular in Minni playing the clubs. Mark would sometimes sit in with them on bass, wearing a mask, going under the name "The Shadow". But from all accounts, MZ were already wearing their hair long and looking wild waaay before P even knew who they were and decided to fuck with them. In 83, they filled in for Dez and his newly formed band when he cancelled at the last minute at the Minnesota Music Awards show. Tony Christian, one of the guitarists for MZ said that's when P first took interest in the band. And again, this was in 83. May 21, 83 to be precise. Over a full year before Purple Rain was released. So nah, Mazarati weren't hardly trying to copy Prince's hair.
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Reply #43 posted 08/20/09 1:16pm

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1dell said:

LOL!!! No you didn't just put up a pic of Stony Jackson. LOLOL!!! he was the poster boy for Jheri Curls. LOL. Hell I remember when Ez E and Ice Cube use to sport them curls. How in the HELL was that a tuff hair style? LOL>
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Man, Ezy E and Ice Cube weren't tough. Yella would have whooped both those cats asses together at the same time with one arm handcuffed to a rail! None of the cats who wore curls looked tough except of course those hard hittin' muthafuckers that were claiming Rolling 60 and Piru! Either that or the pink and blue rollers they would wear in their hair in the middle of the afternoon dawg. Like it wasn't shit. Hell, u hardly would catch sistas going outside like that but these bruthas?! They straight up didn't give a fuck.
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Reply #44 posted 08/20/09 1:23pm

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lol..yeah 1dell..that stuff did stink. I used to get a laugh out the cats that had the "wet look" in 1st period..then by 3rd period it started to dry out and lockup..Man they would be runnin' to the bathroom reloading up their spray cans.
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Reply #45 posted 08/20/09 1:36pm

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1dell said:

It was the 1980s and Prince was rising to prominence. everybody and their mother was wearing lace and purple trying to look like Prince. Deep down inside you wanted to too. The way to REALLY get in touch with your inner Prince was to grow your hair and them do some fancy with your mop top. I've seen person after person try to achieve that Prince look by uploading a Jheri Curl in their hair back in the 80s. Chile please! Hell I aint gonna lie, I tried it too.

For the record PRINCE DIDN"T HAVE A JHERI CURL!!! That was a curly perm!!!!


For black folks a "perm" is a straightener, a "curl" is a curly perm. Prince had his hair straitened, or at least hot ironed into barrel curls.



ernest u missed out one letter in STRAIGHTENED.... lol
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Reply #46 posted 08/20/09 2:24pm

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squirrelgrease said:

NelsonR said:

are there whites who got geri curls...oops, this post must be for people blessed with lots of melanin only

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The Jheri Curl was named after a white dude. Yes. It's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ri_Redding













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Reply #47 posted 08/20/09 4:31pm

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As a budding guitar guy in my first band "Purple Rain" did indeed show that he hairdresser could take our hair Uptown and set our naps free.

We were very unsophisticated kids with no knowledge of the inner workings of hair other than going to the barber each week and cutting it low.

We (From a guy standpoint) couldn't possibly know the difference between a curly perm and a curl. And if we went on Jeopardy and they asked us what a "Corkscrew Curler" was we would have lost.

The upside is if your curl looked "respectable" with maybe a small amount of gel and not dripping all over the place, (Making your Mom have to do more laundry because your shirt collars are all messed up or the dog stops coming over to you to pet him because you keep getting curl juice in his eye) you could tell girls more "Prince-ish stuff and get away with it.

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Reply #48 posted 08/20/09 4:40pm

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ToraTora17 said:

squirrelgrease said:



The Jheri Curl was named after a white dude. Yes. It's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ri_Redding





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Reply #49 posted 08/20/09 10:34pm

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Reply #50 posted 08/21/09 11:47am

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1dell said:

It was the 1980s and Prince was rising to prominence. everybody and their mother was wearing lace and purple trying to look like Prince. Deep down inside you wanted to too. The way to REALLY get in touch with your inner Prince was to grow your hair and them do some fancy with your mop top. I've seen person after person try to achieve that Prince look by uploading a Jheri Curl in their hair back in the 80s. Chile please! Hell I aint gonna lie, I tried it too.

For the record PRINCE DIDN"T HAVE A JHERI CURL!!! That was a curly perm!!!! So if you had a jheri curl trying to look like Prince, all you really did was make yourself look like a confused fan of the man who owns a ranch in neverland.

Nothing use to piss me off more back in the 80s than to see Prince wannabes with jheri curls in their hair, Ala Mazzarati, A la Ready for the World.

Ok, got that off my chest. I've been waiting to vent that for 20 years now. Whew that felt good. I no longer need that therapy session

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I was wondering when someone was going to let it be known that P never had a Jeri-Curl
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Reply #51 posted 08/21/09 4:18pm

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Only wish that clip had sound, lol. That parody was ripped straight from those Johnson & Johnson commercials they used to run during "Soul Train" back in the day. "Coming To America" cracked me up! I need to watch that movie again real soon. You killin' me SquirrelGrease! ...jus let your Soooooul Glooooow! LOL.
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Reply #52 posted 08/21/09 4:23pm

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HAD TO DO IT, LOL.

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Reply #53 posted 08/21/09 7:46pm

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1dell said:

It was the 1980s and Prince was rising to prominence. everybody and their mother was wearing lace and purple trying to look like Prince. Deep down inside you wanted to too. The way to REALLY get in touch with your inner Prince was to grow your hair and them do some fancy with your mop top. I've seen person after person try to achieve that Prince look by uploading a Jheri Curl in their hair back in the 80s. Chile please! Hell I aint gonna lie, I tried it too.

For the record PRINCE DIDN"T HAVE A JHERI CURL!!! That was a curly perm!!!! So if you had a jheri curl trying to look like Prince, all you really did was make yourself look like a confused fan of the man who owns a ranch in neverland.

Nothing use to piss me off more back in the 80s than to see Prince wannabes with jheri curls in their hair, Ala Mazzarati, A la Ready for the World.

Ok, got that off my chest. I've been waiting to vent that for 20 years now. Whew that felt good. I no longer need that therapy session


So what if they did. How many people get tans trying to make their skin darker? How many women out get breast implants trying to look like Pamela Anderson? How many people out there who get their lips blew up? How many people do what trying to look like what they're not? I'll give you a hint: If everyone who ever got anything done to themselves trying to inhance their appearence left America, it would hardly be anyone here. I got a curl and I'm proud of it.
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Reply #54 posted 08/21/09 7:58pm

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Thousands of black men and women wore Jheri curls since the late 70's. People had been wearing curls for years and none of this had the slightest thing to do with Prince. Michael Jackson started wearing a curl in 79/80. Many bruthas in the the early 80's in funk/r&b & rock bands were ALREADY wearing curls. That was the fashion in the entertainment world as well as on the street. Hell, out here in L.A, all the Bloods and Crips were wearing curls. Player, if u talked that shit to them about them wearing a curl because of punk ass Prince,....man oh man. Dig, it was a hairstyle, period. None of that had ANYTHING to do with Prince or anybody else because the Jheri curl had already long since been around before anybody was even thinking of Prince. The cats in RFTW were probably ALREADY wearing Jheri curls before they released their album and long before that. Hell, it's a great chance that Prince's ass when he pressed his hair out, was trying to copy a few of the bruthas in Switch. And nah, I'm not talking about the two Debarge brothers. I'm talking about a few of the other cats in the band. Anyway, many bruthas who had long hair wore curls for years, since they were in their teens. I hardly doubt that the Jackson family and Roger Troutman who were already wearing this style BEFORE P decided to was even thinking of P's ass. While P was either wearing his hair in an afro or pressed, thousands of blacks all over the country were already wearing jheri curls. I started wearing jheri curls when I was 13 but for me, because of the texture of my hair, I never liked how the curl looked because my hair was naturally too straight. I for one, certainly never got a curl because of Prince. And I only got one Jheri curl and booted it to the curb. I started having my hair braided and when I took my braids down, my hair was big and wild looking, which is how I liked it. But what I was going for was Hendrix, not Prince. That's just me. I had some blacks tripping off of me cuz my hair was so wild looking and big and I had no jheri curl. I was already rocking the Mazarati look BEFORE Mazarati. Except of course, the Crips and Bloods or any other O.G. who wore their hair in pink and blue rollers in their hair in broad daylight. And dared anybody to even pretend they were going to laugh. Once they took the rollers out of their hair, it was George Washington time, brah. I know of what I speak cuz I was doing it. Depending on a brutha's texture of hair, u had many Crips and Bloods when they "dropped" their hair, it was no different than the cats in Mazarati.That has NOTHING to do with Jheri curls. This is what I KNOW from out here in Cali and what many bruthas were already doing and this was YEARS before Prince's ass was even out. Again, the curl was a fashion that many upon many of black people were ALREADY wearing. Andre Cymone and Jesse were wearing Jheri curls BEFORE P started curling his hair. Let me tell ya'll something that I was told by both Andre Cymone and Morris Day, who I have recorded with. They both told me that when Jesse came into Minni and hooked up with Morris, they were doing a duo ala Hall and Oates. THAT'S when P first became hip to Jesse. When he was forming the band The Time, P wanted Jesse automatically. Both Morris and Andre told me that when P first met Jesse, he was hella impressed. Because Jesse ALREADY was rocking the big Jheri curl, wild style. He already had the pink custom amps and the pink guitar. Morris and Andre and everybody else in P's circle all noticed that after Jesse first came on the scene, THAT'S when P started with curling his hair like he did. Not at the beginning of Controversy but towards the end of that tour, P was wearing his hair in the front curled. I saw this at a Controversy show (with The Time opening) and noticed that it was different from how he had it on the Controversy album cover. Before Jesse came around, P wasn't even thinking of fucking with that. P started doing Everything the color purple because Jesse already was rocking the color pink. THIS is what Morris and Andre both told me. Now I know all of these folks on here NEED to believe that P is the Originator of ALL things but, that's so far from the truth and reality. Visually, while P was burning the shit out of his hair pressing it to death so it could be straight, when Jesse came to down, whooops, P got him some curly curls.
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I co-sign 100% brah! Ya see, people (as you mentioned) need to believe that P originated that look, when (if you're African American) then you know that it didn't start with him. It's just ignorance. I even wore my jhuri curls before the 1999 look, which is where his hair was in full curl blewm. It's also true that if you were to say that what you said about crips and bloods wearing their hair like that because of Prince, your parent or whomever would be either creamating you, or closing the lid on your coffin. LOL I use to live in L.A with my cousin who use to be a blood and that shit would NOT go to well with any of them.

People need to learn before they speak on such things. Did people make the mistake in wearing their hair in Mullets trying to look like the rock bands of that time? LOL
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Reply #56 posted 08/23/09 8:37am

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lol

my mate Age and me shared a house when we first left home and man-he used stuff called stay soft fro.....man that stuff was like yacht varnish-we couldn't get it off the bathroom door when we were moving out

funnier still-Age is a big black guy-that slept in a shower cap so the goo in his hair didn't give him spots lol

and he did have hair just like the guy in tat clip


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Reply #57 posted 08/23/09 10:34am

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laurarichardson said:

1dell said:

It was the 1980s and Prince was rising to prominence. everybody and their mother was wearing lace and purple trying to look like Prince. Deep down inside you wanted to too. The way to REALLY get in touch with your inner Prince was to grow your hair and them do some fancy with your mop top. I've seen person after person try to achieve that Prince look by uploading a Jheri Curl in their hair back in the 80s. Chile please! Hell I aint gonna lie, I tried it too.

For the record PRINCE DIDN"T HAVE A JHERI CURL!!! That was a curly perm!!!! So if you had a jheri curl trying to look like Prince, all you really did was make yourself look like a confused fan of the man who owns a ranch in neverland.

Nothing use to piss me off more back in the 80s than to see Prince wannabes with jheri curls in their hair, Ala Mazzarati, A la Ready for the World.

Ok, got that off my chest. I've been waiting to vent that for 20 years now. Whew that felt good. I no longer need that therapy session

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I was wondering when someone was going to let it be known that P never had a Jeri-Curl


Hmm, I always thought he did and had his curls set with larger rollers to have a looser curl.

So what was that a wet set? I know that was not done with the curling irons, because when you put heat to hair, even the curls have a smoother look. Prince not only had curls... but he also had waves and crinkles within his curly locks. I think it was some sort of cold wave permanent curl (AKA Jheri curl) He just used larger rods and a drier styling lotion.

I had a Wave Nuveau. I used the largest roller rods available so my curl diameter was larger than 1 inch. and I never used gel activator... only the spray that ws very lite and not the least bit greasy. My hair looked like Prince's PR look.
Of course this was several years after PR. I would not get the Jheri curl look.
Too stringy looking to me.
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Reply #58 posted 08/23/09 5:47pm

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prodigalfan said:

laurarichardson said:


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I was wondering when someone was going to let it be known that P never had a Jeri-Curl


Hmm, I always thought he did and had his curls set with larger rollers to have a looser curl.

So what was that a wet set? I know that was not done with the curling irons, because when you put heat to hair, even the curls have a smoother look. Prince not only had curls... but he also had waves and crinkles within his curly locks. I think it was some sort of cold wave permanent curl (AKA Jheri curl) He just used larger rods and a drier styling lotion.

I had a Wave Nuveau. I used the largest roller rods available so my curl diameter was larger than 1 inch. and I never used gel activator... only the spray that ws very lite and not the least bit greasy. My hair looked like Prince's PR look.
Of course this was several years after PR. I would not get the Jheri curl look.
Too stringy looking to me.
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It was a perm. I never saw any waves unti Under the Cherry Moon. P had a perm and it looks like sometimes he used small rollers and than big ones for the high hair look but no Jeri Curl.
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Reply #59 posted 08/24/09 9:26pm

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It was a perm. I never saw any waves unti Under the Cherry Moon. P had a perm and it looks like sometimes he used small rollers and than big ones for the high hair look but no Jeri Curl.


hmmm

Now I am going to have to look at pics of PR era. BTW, the waves I was talking about was not the finger waves using styling gel... I meant the waves and crinkles that God gave you. I thought I was waves like that on his head during PR era especially around the hairline.
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