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Thread started 08/12/09 9:54am

razord

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music instruments and software prince uses

I would like to know more about what kind of software/hardware prince actually uses in the recording studio, any ideas?
All u haters need to recognize, if u cant c right through these lies, good gawd!
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Reply #1 posted 08/12/09 10:06am

Nelson4Life

I know he's on the Protools boat wagon now.
U can cut off all my fins - But 2 your ways I will not bend
I'll die before I let U tell me how 2 swim
And I'll come back again as a dolphin
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Reply #2 posted 08/12/09 10:07am

NpgSoldier

^ Yep, he talks about it here: http://latimesblogs.latim...-with.html
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Reply #3 posted 08/12/09 11:05am

zaza

Nelson4Life said:

I know he's on the Protools boat wagon now.

Profuc*in'Tools killed the real music..
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Reply #4 posted 08/12/09 12:37pm

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Prince has been using ProTools 4 a while now...

If used creatively, it doesn't matter.

Many still record with 2" tape, and then mix and master digitally within ProTools. 'The Rainbow Children' was done this way.

It's primary function is as a mastering tool.

WHAT KILLED REAL MUSIC was other software... content creation software... Fruity Loops, Garage Band, Ableton, etc. All cheap-ass shortcuts that genericize music.

Logic gets some props, because some of the synth plug-ins were designed by famous synth programmers in history. The guy that did all of Roland's Juno and JX, etc, synths... ETC.

Prince still uses hardware, so don't worry.

I use ALL HARDWARE.

~G


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[Edited 8/12/09 12:40pm]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #5 posted 08/12/09 12:39pm

Giovanni777

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...and just another side-note from the industry...

ProTools has been slumping BIG TIME. Everything else has been getting more and more powerful, and Digi costs alot of dough.

Their sales have plummeted.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #6 posted 08/12/09 2:37pm

polkadotbliss

ok-i know of

Roland JV 1080
Oberheim Matrix 100
Fairlight
Linn drum computer

and he uses Messa amps and mainly Roland pedals with a Digitech Whammy

but he could have his pick of ANYTHING out there-so i guess he's at least tried out all the good stuff at some time lucky sod wink
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Reply #7 posted 08/16/09 12:46pm

Nelson4Life

Giovanni777 said:

Prince has been using ProTools 4 a while now...

If used creatively, it doesn't matter.

Many still record with 2" tape, and then mix and master digitally within ProTools. 'The Rainbow Children' was done this way.

It's primary function is as a mastering tool.

WHAT KILLED REAL MUSIC was other software... content creation software... Fruity Loops, Garage Band, Ableton, etc. All cheap-ass shortcuts that genericize music.

Logic gets some props, because some of the synth plug-ins were designed by famous synth programmers in history. The guy that did all of Roland's Juno and JX, etc, synths... ETC.

Prince still uses hardware, so don't worry.

I use ALL HARDWARE.

~G


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[Edited 8/12/09 12:40pm]


I agree with all you said. I like to record analog and mix/master on protools.
U can cut off all my fins - But 2 your ways I will not bend
I'll die before I let U tell me how 2 swim
And I'll come back again as a dolphin
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Reply #8 posted 08/16/09 1:48pm

Militant

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Giovanni777 said:

...and just another side-note from the industry...

ProTools has been slumping BIG TIME. Everything else has been getting more and more powerful, and Digi costs alot of dough.

Their sales have plummeted.



I think Propellerheads upcoming "Record" software is going to hit Pro Tools hard. Many of my producer friends already use Propellerheads Reason, re-wired to Pro Tools.....so with Propellerheads coming out with a full functional that will link up natively with Reason.....why use Pro Tools?
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/09 11:20am

elegant

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Nelson4Life said:

I know he's on the Protools boat wagon now.

Profuc*in'Tools killed the real music..



Naw, Pro Tools didn't kill real music, people using Pro Tools did.

AS the name suggest, it's a tool, maybe not enough Pro's know how to use it correctly.
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Reply #10 posted 08/17/09 12:52pm

nyse

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pro tools is a great editing tool....but it takez away much of the originality
and musicianship.....

I am a huge fan of the analog sound. lets stick to that.
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Reply #11 posted 08/19/09 9:42pm

elegant

nyse said:

pro tools is a great editing tool....but it takez away much of the originality
and musicianship.....

I am a huge fan of the analog sound. lets stick to that.



Only if you never had it to begin with...
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Reply #12 posted 08/19/09 10:06pm

sirweasel

I actually heard he uses Amatuer Tools from my friend who knows his this guy.
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/09 2:32am

LittleSister

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polkadotbliss said:

ok-i know of

Roland JV 1080
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That must have been in the eighties then, because it's a pretty old module.
I bet he never uses that one anymore. Even my husband who is a professional MIDI programmer(sequencer) retired it last year and switched to digital plug-ins.

According to him, Prince doesn't use a lot of MIDI sequencing - he mainly records acoustic output, with the exception of string and horn sections now and then.
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/09 7:53am

polkadotbliss

well-since the JV1080 didn't come out until the 90's.....I got one when they first came out-about 94

folk still use em'-they just upgraded to the 2080

I've never been in a studio without a JV module of sorts-they're like Akai samplers-old but still used
I believe JV's were on the kit list at the Paisley web site a couple of years back

and you can hear one on Emancipation and NPS
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/09 8:33am

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Protools is just recording and editing software, like a reel to reel and using cuts and tape... its just easier. It also sounds better and more live since it can record a very accurate sound at 24 bits 96hz.

There is no way to blame protools for the sound of any music, thats in the hands of the artist and producer.

I bet I could record something in protools and make someone think its was an old cassette tape, or even off of vinyl.

I use protools LE with the digi 002.

I hope Protools prices come down! It's still the best. I haven't ventured into Apple Logic though...
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Reply #16 posted 08/20/09 9:59am

JudasLChrist

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I use Ableton Live linked with Reason after years of recording on cassette 4 tracks. I find it liberating and frustrating. Frustrating cause the recording process is a bit backwards. Before I would work to make a great sound and record that to tape. With digital you record but you don't get any of that analog disortion that is so pleasing to the ear. So, you end up tweaking the sound afterward...with tape compression plug ins or whatever.

I do not, however, understand how people could say 'pro-tools' has destroyed music. I take issue with the over edited productions I've heard, but that's just a choice that commercial producers make.

On the contrary, digital recording has made it easier for musicians to be free from needing record label support. People have access. It has free'd the music!

If I was rich, i guess I'd love to have access to a 22-inch 24 track studio...but even then a DAW would be useful in the production process.
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Reply #17 posted 08/20/09 12:15pm

darlingomo

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There was once detailed info on what was at each of the studio's at Paisley Park here http://www.paisleyparkstudios.com/ but either my connection is f*cked, cuz All I'm seeing is a blank screen.
It was a cool site and if memory serves, all the studio's were facilitated with Pro Tools running on G4 macs, so yeah it was a while ago.
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Reply #18 posted 08/20/09 12:19pm

BobGeorge909

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zaza said:

Nelson4Life said:

I know he's on the Protools boat wagon now.

Profuc*in'Tools killed the real music..




I kinda felt the same way for a while...but u know what....it's relatively new. There's LOTS that can be learned from it and new avenues it opens. Thoughtful people can use it to musics advantage. Similar thin gs were said when electricity was introduced to music...when digital recording was introduced. Just try to be open and reliaze it's new and has yet to be explored.
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Reply #19 posted 08/20/09 5:52pm

djenerate

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elegant said:

zaza said:


Profuc*in'Tools killed the real music..



Naw, Pro Tools didn't kill real music, people using Pro Tools did.

AS the name suggest, it's a tool, maybe not enough Pro's know how to use it correctly.


I'm glad u said it! Just the same as guns don't kill people, a piece of software didn't kill the music.

But I will say that Pro Tools has indeed lost it's grip on the Pro market. The digidesign interfaces suffer from very average preamps, when compared to its competitors in the same price bracket, & the software isn't developing nearly as fast as the other main players.
I recently had a discussion with Duffy's writer/producer & Kate Bush's producer who have both long since switched to Logic over Pro Tools. & I happen to wholeheartedly agree!

(D')
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