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Thread started 08/16/09 12:11pm

jobyjayy

Dream Factory...the story behind the song.

Hey y'all. I was listening to the song Dream Factory and was wondering if this song could be about St. Paul quitting THE FAMILY to go solo. Check out the lyrics...especially the lines "Listen 2 the story of a man I am not" and later in the song "A man came up 2 me, smile in his eyes
He told me I was a saint So I'm quittin' my friends much 2 their surprise"

Any thoughts?

Here's the whole song:
This is what it's like in the Dream Factory, oh!

Hollyrock ain't all it seems (Lordy)
Don't get 2 serious, it's just a dream
Don't forget your friends, they're all U've got (Lordy)
Listen 2 the story of a man I am not

Party all night, hangin' out
In the streets more than I be at home
I take a pill 2 wipe away my doubts
But a pill can't cure my bein' alone
Vodka and 7 straight 2 my brain
Put me under false impressions, hide all my pain
Somebody help me, I'm losing control

This is what it's like in the Dream Factory, oh!

Everybody got the big dreams (Hey Lordy)
But nobody got the bucks
Love and trust will help U make it in a world (Everybody)
Where there ain't no love, ain't no love

Dig...
A man came up 2 me, smile in his eyes
He told me I was a saint
So I'm quittin' my friends much 2 their surprise
I can't live up 2 the picture that they paint
Ah somebody help me, I'm losing control (Ow!)

I guess I'm just a sucker in the dream factory, oh!

Lordy
La, la, la, la, la (Sucker)
Got 2 drive
(It's just a dream) {x3}
Look out

Do U wanna party?
Do want a pill?
How about a false impression?
(Thrills, spills, chills)

This is what it's like in the Dream Factory, oh!

Ow! Yeah
Up a little bit
(Dream factory, oh)
Party all night, hang up on the side, I said "Uh"
(Do U wanna party?)
I can't make up my mind
(How about a false impression?)
I can't seem 2 live with no pictures (Thrills, spills, chills)
Somebody got 2 help me! (Just a sucker)
I'm losing control (Just a sucker)
I guess I'm just a sucker in the dream factory, oh!

Guess I'm just a sucker in the dream factory, oh!
(Just a sucker, motherfucker!)
[Edited 8/16/09 12:12pm]
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Reply #1 posted 08/16/09 12:29pm

lotusflw3r

It's about hollywood and the the way celebrity/fame can go to your head, twist you up and spit you out!
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Reply #2 posted 08/16/09 1:10pm

NouveauDance

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jobyjayy said:

Hey y'all. I was listening to the song Dream Factory and was wondering if this song could be about St. Paul quitting THE FAMILY to go solo. Check out the lyrics...especially the lines "Listen 2 the story of a man I am not" and later in the song "A man came up 2 me, smile in his eyes
He told me I was a saint So I'm quittin' my friends much 2 their surprise"

You're spot on, it's about St. Paul.
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Reply #3 posted 08/16/09 3:25pm

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jobyjayy said:

Hey y'all. I was listening to the song Dream Factory and was wondering if this song could be about St. Paul quitting THE FAMILY to go solo. Check out the lyrics...especially the lines "Listen 2 the story of a man I am not" and later in the song "A man came up 2 me, smile in his eyes
He told me I was a saint So I'm quittin' my friends much 2 their surprise"

Any thoughts?


It's no real secret that it's about Paul, abruptly leaving The Family just on the cusp of their success. That's why there was only one gig too. Prince was none too pleased when it all happened. Read the liner note to this song in the CB book.

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Reply #4 posted 08/16/09 3:34pm

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NouveauDance said:

jobyjayy said:

Hey y'all. I was listening to the song Dream Factory and was wondering if this song could be about St. Paul quitting THE FAMILY to go solo. Check out the lyrics...especially the lines "Listen 2 the story of a man I am not" and later in the song "A man came up 2 me, smile in his eyes
He told me I was a saint So I'm quittin' my friends much 2 their surprise"

You're spot on, it's about St. Paul.



right,

and Movie Star was about Morris Day,

Mutiny/Dream Factory during one of the Parade rehearsal Prince uses Jessie Johnsons name
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Reply #5 posted 08/16/09 3:39pm

ernestsewell

OldFriends4Sale said:

right,

and Movie Star was about Morris Day,

Mutiny/Dream Factory during one of the Parade rehearsal Prince uses Jessie Johnsons name


Well don't know about all THAT, but "Dream Factory" is about Paul.

The lyric line quoted earlier is flat out a reference to him, "he told me I was a SAINT, so I'm quitting my friends..." Even Paul knows it's about him. He's said as much.
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Reply #6 posted 08/16/09 4:12pm

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"Hollyrock" was written for Paul originally, wasn't it? (In reference to the opening lyric.)
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Reply #7 posted 08/16/09 6:57pm

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ernestsewell said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

right,

and Movie Star was about Morris Day,

Mutiny/Dream Factory during one of the Parade rehearsal Prince uses Jessie Johnsons name


Well don't know about all THAT, but "Dream Factory" is about Paul.

The lyric line quoted earlier is flat out a reference to him, "he told me I was a SAINT, so I'm quitting my friends..." Even Paul knows it's about him. He's said as much.


No, I not saying it's not about Paul, I know it's about Paul

Just saying I heard him call out Jesse's name during this rehearsal
the song was Mutiny with the Revolution and they added in the verse "This is what it's like in the Dream Factory woe oh"
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sorry I just relistened and its in MUTINY the Work Vol1 Disc 4 where he calls out Jesse about 2:00 min into the song
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Reply #8 posted 08/16/09 7:25pm

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I never knew this song was about St.Paul. Hey, live and learn. Definitely a hot track. I always liked when they name checked a member of the family on a track (i.e. Love On A Blue Train "Jerome upside ya' head, Mazarati upside ya head")
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/09 1:25pm

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HonestMan13 said:

I never knew this song was about St.Paul. Hey, live and learn. Definitely a hot track. I always liked when they name checked a member of the family on a track (i.e. Love On A Blue Train "Jerome upside ya' head, Mazarati upside ya head")



yeah that is cool

Love On A Blue Train those nods 2 the 2 reminds me of the Purple protege world still in existance then
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Reply #10 posted 08/17/09 2:19pm

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Efan said:

"Hollyrock" was written for Paul originally, wasn't it? (In reference to the opening lyric.)

Yep. The rap is from the Family out-take 'Feline'.
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Reply #11 posted 08/17/09 2:36pm

ernestsewell

NouveauDance said:

Efan said:

"Hollyrock" was written for Paul originally, wasn't it? (In reference to the opening lyric.)

Yep. The rap is from the Family out-take 'Feline'.


Paul has also sung that rap from "Hollyrock" with a six string acoustic in hand and with a country twang in his voice. He's done it twice on the live video Q&A sessions he's done with Susannah and the fans. It's hysterical.
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Reply #12 posted 08/17/09 2:38pm

ernestsewell

HonestMan13 said:

I always liked when they name checked a member of the family on a track (i.e. Love On A Blue Train "Jerome upside ya' head, Mazarati upside ya head")


I never understood why though. Jerome was with him until about that time (when the song would have been written probably, or roughly there abouts). Not sure if it was a fun name check or something worse.
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Reply #13 posted 08/17/09 6:43pm

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ernestsewell said:

HonestMan13 said:

I always liked when they name checked a member of the family on a track (i.e. Love On A Blue Train "Jerome upside ya' head, Mazarati upside ya head")


I never understood why though. Jerome was with him until about that time (when the song would have been written probably, or roughly there abouts). Not sure if it was a fun name check or something worse.


I think that's right about when Jerome went to work with Jimmy and Terry.
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Reply #14 posted 08/17/09 7:05pm

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HonestMan13 said:

ernestsewell said:



I never understood why though. Jerome was with him until about that time (when the song would have been written probably, or roughly there abouts). Not sure if it was a fun name check or something worse.


I think that's right about when Jerome went to work with Jimmy and Terry.
Have you ever heard "Diss"?


Actually this song and album came out/was written during the ATWIAD/Parade era
which is why there is a nodd 2 Mazarati and Jerome

4 all we know they were jammin with Sheila on this during the recording or just in creation of the song

This album has more of that Parade era feel to it similar 2 the Family and Jill Jones Mia Bocca
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Reply #15 posted 08/17/09 7:10pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

HonestMan13 said:



I think that's right about when Jerome went to work with Jimmy and Terry.
Have you ever heard "Diss"?


Actually this song and album came out/was written during the ATWIAD/Parade era
which is why there is a nodd 2 Mazarati and Jerome

4 all we know they were jammin with Sheila on this during the recording or just in creation of the song

This album has more of that Parade era feel to it similar 2 the Family and Jill Jones Mia Bocca


It never felt like a friendly shout out to me.
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/09 7:51pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually this song and album came out/was written during the ATWIAD/Parade era
which is why there is a nodd 2 Mazarati and Jerome

4 all we know they were jammin with Sheila on this during the recording or just in creation of the song

This album has more of that Parade era feel to it similar 2 the Family and Jill Jones Mia Bocca


To be technical, Sheila's third album with that song on it came out in 1987, well after the ATWIAD/Parade era. The song has a very fun feel though. It's one of those great record ending songs. The extended mix is pretty cool too. I don't have my DMSR book, so I can't look up when it was actually recorded.
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Reply #17 posted 08/17/09 8:12pm

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punk of the month!

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Reply #18 posted 08/17/09 11:52pm

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ernestsewell said:

To be technical, Sheila's third album with that song on it came out in 1987, well after the ATWIAD/Parade era. The song has a very fun feel though. It's one of those great record ending songs. The extended mix is pretty cool too. I don't have my DMSR book, so I can't look up when it was actually recorded.

I'd consider it more a shout out than a diss. I don't have books at hand either at the mo', but I remember 'Love On A Blue Train' is on the 1986 Japanese dance EP, which has a Romance 1600 era cover - so it's one of the earlier tracks from that LP, along with 'Hold Me' (not a Prince track I know), which was the b-side to Holly Rock too in it's slightly longer 'Touch Me' form.

Incidently, there's a couple of Japanese TV commercials on YouTube, advertising VCRs, that use studio performance footage of these two tracks, hadn't seen them until recently - can't believe they never used them as the promo videos - The 'Hold Me' one is shot on the same shoot as the Holly Rock cover which I always thought was an 'homage' to the scene in Ghostbusters on the roof.


Edit: Covers I'm talking about:


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Reply #19 posted 08/18/09 5:16am

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NouveauDance said:

ernestsewell said:

To be technical, Sheila's third album with that song on it came out in 1987, well after the ATWIAD/Parade era. The song has a very fun feel though. It's one of those great record ending songs. The extended mix is pretty cool too. I don't have my DMSR book, so I can't look up when it was actually recorded.

I'd consider it more a shout out than a diss. I don't have books at hand either at the mo', but I remember 'Love On A Blue Train' is on the 1986 Japanese dance EP, which has a Romance 1600 era cover - so it's one of the earlier tracks from that LP, along with 'Hold Me' (not a Prince track I know), which was the b-side to Holly Rock too in it's slightly longer 'Touch Me' form.

Incidently, there's a couple of Japanese TV commercials on YouTube, advertising VCRs, that use studio performance footage of these two tracks, hadn't seen them until recently - can't believe they never used them as the promo videos - The 'Hold Me' one is shot on the same shoot as the Holly Rock cover which I always thought was an 'homage' to the scene in Ghostbusters on the roof.


Edit: Covers I'm talking about:


[Edited 8/17/09 23:53pm]


Yeah, the video footage for "Love on a Blue Train" is definitely Sheila in Romance 1600 outfits and with the hair from that era.

I agree that the Jerome and Mazarati shoutouts sound friendly. There's also a video out of Sheila playing a club with Mazarati; I think they had a friendly Paisley vibe going on that was being celebrated in the song--which is, by the way, one of my favorites of hers and one I would love to see her play live some day (hope springs eternal).
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