sweething said:

Acting like a holy person and being a total cunt in your professional dealings, yea that's lying.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

What does that have to do with him changing his song lyrics?

purplecam said:

He's a liar on many levels

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

And? He's a flawed human like you and me. His life is his life, what more can we do about it?

purplecam said:

talk about it!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

But it won't change anything. If he's judgemental now, this thread won't make him be any less judgemental. I'm not saying not to talk about it but no one here will feel any better doing so, but I could be wrong. That's just me, I guess.

purplecam said:

You're wrong. Talking can change the world. Discussion might lead some fams to stop supporting him!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Wow, that's some serious bullshit right there.

sro100 said:

I would argue that Prince is even a bigger non-conformist than he was before.

1.How many pop/rap/rock acts today say "fuck" in their lyrics? Certainly more than when Prince was doing it. Swearing is SO very common place in pop music now...who cares or notices when it is so expected. These days, Prince is damn near non conformist by NOT doing it.

2. Prince is not conforming to his fans expectations/wishes/earlier precedents. He is, as always, doing exactly what the duck he wants to do. Prince is being himself...hardly conforming.

3. Prince's religion is hardly mainstream...in fact, there is a lot of intolerance and venom spewed about his faith. I see it here at the org every day.

4. Even if Prince is conforming to JW expectations/rules: Is he really? Look at how he dresses, hear the (still) super sexual lyrics. "Wet circles 'round the toy..."....is that really conforming?

Possibly, because they're spinning out of control and have no happiness.

Maybe structure is happiness?

Quite a leap to ask such a redundant question (generalize) about an entire group of people, let alone Prince.

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purplecam said:

I'm good at wearing people down

Giovanni777 said:

He's a strict conformist to the Jevovah's Witness' set of beliefs. Yes.

purplecam said:

You're wrong. Talking can change the world. Discussion might lead some fams to stop supporting him!

I would argue that Prince is even a bigger non-conformist than he was before.

1.How many pop/rap/rock acts today say "fuck" in their lyrics? Certainly more than when Prince was doing it. Swearing is SO very common place in pop music now...who cares or notices when it is so expected. These days, Prince is damn near non conformist by NOT doing it.

2. Prince is not conforming to his fans expectations/wishes/earlier precedents. He is, as always, doing exactly what the duck he wants to do. Prince is being himself...hardly conforming.

3. Prince's religion is hardly mainstream...in fact, there is a lot of intolerance and venom spewed about his faith. I see it here at the org every day.

4. Even if Prince is conforming to JW expectations/rules: Is he really? Look at how he dresses, hear the (still) super sexual lyrics. "Wet circles 'round the toy..."....is that really conforming?



Quite a leap to ask such a redundant question (generalize) about an entire group of people, let alone Prince.
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sro100 said:

Ehh... I've NEVER met a strict JW that sings regularly about eating p____, pulling women's hair during sex, about God knowing where your g-spot is etc etc... I think taking explicit vulgarity out of the music just makes the music more poetic. It doesn't change the nature of what he's talking about.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

If you walk out of the org today and never come back I'm 100% positive Prince wouldn't give the slightest tiniest tinyist insy-bitsy miniscule shite... at all... at all at all at all.... google infinity...

Talking can change the world. Discussion might lead some fams to stop supporting him!

It was all an act. Even the laciviousness was an act. Prince was always a conservative semi-prude.

purplecam said:

He's a liar on many levels

I don’t miss the curse words or overt sexuality, but however weird it always seemed like honest artistic expression

The question is..
When Prince was expressing his sexuality and talking like real people sometimes do, he was always known as a respectable law abiding citizen,… now that Prince is a bible thumper, will he be soon arrested on some really tawdry, embarrassingly sad crap....isn’t that how it always seems to work?

The hypocritical tendencies of people always seem to bubble to the top as underlined and bold text on the newspapers.

Bible thumpers know what I'm talking about, don’t forget to contact your parole officers ok.
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violetblues said:

Yet, hasn't Prince always been somewhat of a bible thumper? Uh, "don't die without knowing The Cross," anyone?

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Prince has always been a very structured and professional musician. I don't see his religious obsession as much a conformity as it is a progressive state of fear and self-isolation.

It was all an act. Even the laciviousness was an act. Prince was always a conservative semi-prude.

xlr8r said:

I think your right. Only through his music and while on stage was he able to come out of his semi-prude shell.
That reminds me a little of Elvis the pelvis who used to be a sex symbol but behind closed doors he was very uptight and verklemmt.