That hook in "old school company" is just too obvious...check out Rapper Craig Mack song "flava in ya ear" youtube it!
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It's not a sample. The notes are different.

daPrettyman said:

Yeah right : ) whateva,Vanilla Ice had the same excuse when he sampled David Bowie's "under pressure"Not out to to discredit or attack prince's credibility.. just pointing out the obvious...at the end of the day who cares..its the music biz..everyone does it.

3232 said:

Don't wanna sound anal or anything, But Flava In Ya Ear was produced by Easy Mo Bee.

3232 said:

Nope...not the same note. The 2nd note is a step or 2 higher than the note in "Old Skool Company".



As a musician, I can definitely hear the difference.

Sure, they use the same rhythm pattern, but they use different notes.

3232 said:

Under Pressure was done by david bowie WITH Queen, and it is on Queen's album, so it is not his song....
anyways, prince did not sample flava in ya ear.

NpgSoldier said:

Thnx for correcting...and dont get me wrong..its not about putting prince down..just found it interesting and thought i would share..you all listen and express your own opinion on the subject...i just think its cool, nothing wrong with. old school company is badass!

3232 said:

I just played Ol Skool Company and realized that Prince uses 3 notes in the keyboard line while Flava only utilizes 2.

daPrettyman said:

yeah right, so Prince edit and retouch to fit HIS song..isnt that what everyone does when SAMPLING?

3232 said:

No. Sampling is when you take the song and use it in it's original state. It is no longer a sample when you add a note and change it into a different song. That has happened for years.

If you read the post I posted further down, you will see that OSC has 3 notes in the keyboard line, where FIYE has 2.

daPrettyman said:

Oh yeah, the rules change when Prince is at the other end LOL!!!
so am i to believe that -DIDDY, MC HAMMER, OUTCAST, TIMBALAND ECT never really sample then? cause this is what they do, edit the original to fit theire songs just like u stated about Prince?

This has been done since the dawning of music. This is an example of 2 different songs that sound similar, but are different. Therefore, not a sample:

Odyssey - Inside Out
http://www.youtube.com/wa...j7eC7t-HO0

Slave - Watching you
http://www.dailymotion.co...-you_music


This is an example of a sample:

Millie Jackson - Cheatin' Is
http://www.youtube.com/wa...VtvIdzikkA

Trick Daddy - I'm A Thug
http://www.youtube.com/wa...VxwMiDAKCs

3232 said:

No problem man. Anyway, Prince sampled a lot of stuff during his career, sometimes uncredited, but this is not a case of sampling. Shit, it's a pity I don't have That H.Q. list anymore...

daPrettyman said:

Yep, INTERPOLATION is the name of the game.

3232 said:

No, those guys sampled. They DID sample because they utilized another recording to make a hit.

BTW, it's not OUTCAST...it's OUTKAST.

NpgSoldier said:

Are you referring to the list where people sampled Prince? Or are you referring to the list where Prince sampled other's music?

I'm not say that Prince hasn't sampled, but in the case of this topic, he did not sample. The intro to "Love 2 the 9s" is a great example. The opening guitar riff in that song was "borrowed" from Rufus' song "Hollywood" and changed to what we hear on the recording.

I think a more convincing claim of Prince sampling that track could be made with TGRES remix.

GeminiBrown said:

Now, that's true. I forgot about that. The only difference was the key.

NpgSoldier said:

cool I hear you..now let me understand this...if lady Gaga takes "when doves cry " and add a bassline to it and release a song tomorrow with different lyrics...you as a PRINCE fan driving through traffic and hear it blasting on the radio..what would you say to the person in the passenger seat next to you? "gee lady Gaga sampled when doves cry" Just what I thought : )
anyway no fuss...thanx for commenting on my post also...greetings from Montego bay Jamaica : )

3232 said:

If she changed the chord progression slightly, then she could release it without crediting Prince. I would be jamming and saying "mmm this sounds like WDC. But wait....she changed the 3rd chord".
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daPrettyman said:

The list of records sampled by Prince.

3232, if you wanna dig deeper these Wikipedia links are pretty much on point:

Sample -> http://en.wikipedia.org/w...28music%29

Interpolation -> http://en.wikipedia.org/w...28music%29

Hope it helps!

P.S. Love Jamaica and Jamaican music, a huge Roots-Reggae fan here!

ORIGINAL TRACK -> Ini Kamoze - World-A-Music -> http://www.youtube.com/wa...pivgO3QFbo

SAMPLE -> Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock -> http://www.youtube.com/wa...1IGsmSa2P4

3232 said:

wasnt that used on greatest romance remix with eve?? i need to go back n listen cuz it sounds like flava in ur ear

Christopher said:

http://www.imeem.com/peop...eve-remix/

Same key used...the difference is that he added a note in the middle, but this sound more like FIYE to me than OSC.

Easy Mo Bee produced flava in ya ear, not diddy.

minneapolisFunq said:

Plase read the entire thread man.

Christopher said:

Yeah TGRES had a sample similar, but "Old School Company"? No way. 3232 needs to listen again.

ernestsewell said:

there are many versions/re-mixes of "flava" which one are u comparing old school with? cause i am listening to the original(not the diddy re-mixes) and the only difference is that prince has less bass...anyway this is just an observation...you hear what you hear and so do I..

3232 said:

I listened to the original and it's nothing like the PRince song. TGRES was the closest to using that sample. (Not sure if it did or not, but it was the Adam and Eve mix that I'm referring to on that one.). As far as OSC.....nope. It's not a sample.

ernestsewell said:

TGRES and Flava I Ya Ear are BOTH samples... Flava has a sample. I know this for a fact because it's the exact same sample used in the TGRES Remix with Eve.
Someone played the original vinyl for me about 10 years ago - a jazz record I believe... I wish I could remember the name.

3232 said:

He sampled it on "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" if u listen closey.You'll hear the horn sound.

He obviously recorded 'Old School Company' in his sleep, on Auto-Pilot, so I don't think he can be held accountable.