DerekH said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related



Yo! I had 2 repay U back in kind.
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blackguitaristz said:

Thanks for that link, BG. I think some of KR's play-hating towards P were due to a little jealousy, especially after he blew up with 1999 and PR. Not many people know this but he also felt a little threatened with the ascension of Hendrix. Here again, Clapton, Page, Beck, Winwood, all the Beatles, Mick, especially Brian Jones (who was the most talented musician of all the RS members at that time) immediately flocked to Hendrix as though they were mere disciples. It actually took Townsend and Richards some time before they finally became cool with Jimi. Ron Wood said it best, "they were all just skinny British kids trying to look cool and sound 'black', then suddenly in came Jimi, the ultimate in black cool. One thing I noticed about Keith was that although he had high regard for African-American R&B/Blues acts that came before him (ie Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters) he tended to shy from his contemporaries (Hendrix) or display a certain jealousy towards those who came after him (Prince). Just my two cents.
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Guitar players who don't like Prince's guitar playing:
Keith Richards
Yngwie M
George Benson in the past before he was working with P

guitar players that like his playing:
Steve Vai
Eric Clapton
Santana
Steve Lukater

name guitar players you know said something about P good or bad

thebanishedone said:

Keith Richards
Yngwie M
George Benson like any1 gives a fuck what they think


my eldest son does not like prince but then no one is perfect. he also said that there is better guitarist like from bands such as kings of leon
blink 182 many more but i lost interest in what he was saying
do u see what he have 2 put up with

he also told me that prince does not even come close to the genius of dylan

i have tried to sell him on Ebay and put him up for adoption.. but there are no takers

but Keith seen and praised Prince's guitar solo to While my guitar gently weeps

thebanishedone said:

As far as Keith Richards is concerned, I never really considered him as a serious guitarist on par with his contemporaries (George Harrison, who dug P as well and went to some of his shows in the late '80's in London, Pete Townsend, and Clapton). In fact, when the Stones first started, they didn't even know how to tune their instruments and played unevenly. Don't get me wrong, I dig them and have a stackful of their records, Cds with Exile being their best, IMO. Plus they were nice enough to give P a shot. The most interesting (and talented) musician within that band during the '60s was the late-Brian Jones ( whom many had felt the band revolved around). Now after, Mick Jones was sacked, in came ex-Faces Ron Wood (a tremendous guitarist who can rock his booty off) Oh BTW, RW is a HUGE P fan, who always jammed P in concerts and aftershows everytime P toured Europe duriing the 80s and 90s.
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Smittyrock70 said:

Thanx man for checking it out and digging it. Man, PLEASE don't get me started about Hendrix and Keith. Or Hendrix and Mick for that matter. Yeah, I am VERY hip to all of that. But u know, Keith had a right to not be jumping over the rainbow for Jimi because of Linda Keith, Richards then girfirend. I mean, here u have Jimi shacking up with Linda while Keith and the boys are away on tour. In a place that Richards was no doubt paying for, a Manhattan penthouse. Linda lends Jimi one of Keith's guitars and THEN it's Linda who was the one who actually introduced Jimi to Chas Chandler. She's begging Chas to come down and see Jimi play and the rest is history. So yeah, I can see where Keith was like "That fucking bloody bloke!" As far as Mick, he and Jimi just had a thing for the same women. Mick's woman Marianne Faithful had a brief fling with Hendrix. Devon, who was a super fine black rock groupie, really "belonged" to Jimi. Mick knew this so he went after her and got her. Thus Jimi writting the song "Dolly Dagger" as in Devon+ Jagger=Dagger. And of course, Mick name checking Jimi in the Stones song "You Can't Always Get What You Want". I have also noticed that about Keith when it came to modern and younger black artists that played rock (Hendrix, Prince). There was some mess when Living Colour, GNR and The Stones played. I actually went to this concert. The mess there was because of Rose and a GNR song "One In A Million" and Vernon Reid called Axl out about it on stage. Richards was very cool with Slash though, who is half black and he was cool with the band Living Colour so...
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Smittyrock70 said:

If you read the recently written book by the man who engineered the beatles album (*geoff emerick), you'll learn that George was not a very good lead guitarist. John Lennon often got frustrated with George's attempts at solos, and oftened put his own in. That being said, Keef Richards is the rhythm guitarist for the stones, not the lead. While Keef played the solo on sympathy for the devil cause Brian was stoned out of his gourd, and also ostrasized from the group at the time, if you watch the dvd Sympathy for the devil, or the dvd Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus, you'll see Keef can handle his own lead guitarwise.
George really came into his own on "All things must pass", and people started to appreciate his slide guitar solos.
George's music is very special to me, but he was not as good a guitarist as Keef, and their techniques are/were different.
Keith is also a better blues guitarist, and yes, Keef's inspiration is Chuck Berry.
George preferred more melodic styles.


great thread, btw, and Black Guitarist, thanks for the lesson. I was going to post that I've never read anywhere where Keef said anything bad about Prince, until I read your link.
I don't think it had to do with Prince's guitar style, I think it has more to do with Prince's attitude at the time

blackguitaristz said:

Wow, BG, that was soo true! I forgot all about that. Ole Jimi (and Sly for that matter) was that Mack during that period. But Mick and the boys weren't called the "bad boys" for nothing. They re-payed U in kind.

According to Miles autobiography, Jimi did his then-wife Betty Davis, the supa-dupa hot model, singer. Miles divorced her only after a year of marriage but he and Jimi remained friends because of their shared love for music, plus they were just cool with each other.

pplrain said:

What it is pplrain...I've given guitar lessons to people and some of the people have children. So they have wanted me to give their daughters lessons as well. A few of the parents had already bought their daughters a guitar. In both instances, they were electric guitars but by different brands. So if your daughter wants an elecric guitar, I suggest what these two girls were playing. One of them at the time was 10 and the other was maybe 8 or 9. The 10 year old had a Squire Mini Electric guitar. It's 3/4 size so it's somewhat lighter in weight. The younger one had a guitar made by Crestwood. They both are patterned after a Fender Stratocaster or what's more commonly called a Strat. The Crestwood guitar is only 36' long but both guitars are 3/4 size. Both companies offer what they call a "package". Meaning that the guitar comes with a small amplifier. Depending on where you get it, it may come with a cable cord, some guitar picks, etc. When I was little, I used to play my dad's guitar and then when I was 8, my mom bought me my own guitar. So I learned on a normal size guitar. But over the years, I've seen companies making 3/4 size guitars for younger folks. Esecially for girls, that size is probably best because the weight is lighter. If your daughter wants an acoustic, since that's what Miley plays, then there is a company called Scratch & Dent. They make an acoustic guitar 32' kids starter. Also there is one called First Act Discovery FG130 Student Acoustic guitar. Both of these are designed for kids and beginners alike. Hope that's helpful to you.
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blackguitaristz said:

there's also a glam slam boot with Vernon guesting on stage and prince/band singing something like "oh vernon don't you weep" while he soloed.

Living colour 17 days is typically beefed up and guitar heavy.

machinegun said:

Oh, I love Queen.

And Brian May is a great guitar player himself.

muleFunk said:

...of the TWO people in show business whose opinions matter....ppffffft!

thebanishedone said:

Keith Richards doesn't like Prince period. Interested in what Yngwie had to say as to why he doesn't like P. Also the Nelsons, (remember them? The two blonde twins?) I heard say that they met P in a studio once and that P sucked on the guitar. Either that is just a rumor, or they were speaking from a place of jealousy or they were fucked up on crack. Because P has more talent in his pinky finger nail on guitar that both of them put together.

my favorite guitarists are Prince, and John Frusciante from the Chili Peppers...I feel confident in saying that i've read or watched at the very least 99% of all the interviews that Frusciante has taken part in and have never EVER heard him refer to P at ALL...I have heard their singer, Anthony Keidas, say that he is a HUGE Prince fan himself...right from his mout h

This is a great thread...Dave Navarro once spoke highly of P..someone already mentioned the Slash story,so that's all I got,I'll go back to enjoying the thread.

blackguitaristz said:

Thanks BG, I was thinking of getting her an acoutic guitar, I think she is too young to handle an electric guitar (I am so protective of her LOL).

DerekH said:

Hey Derek, look at any of my posts and look down at the bottom of my posts. Below the sigs, you'll see two links. Click on the second link and it's an article I wrote about when P opened for the Stones in 81. I touch on Keith's dislike for Prince. I included quotes from Keith that he said about P. Mick and Ron Wood LOVES Prince but Keith, nah,...he LOATHES Prince. I didn't mention Robert Plant before because he's not a guitarist but I've heard him rave about P a few times. In one interview, Robert stated that Page dug P as a guitarist as well. So u have Jeff Beck and Clapton and to let Plant tell it, Page all digging P as a guitarist. So u have all of these British icon guitarists all digging P, BUT Keith,...no go.

blackguitaristz said:

I read your article & I have to say once i'm over this cold I have i'm gonna listen to the 81' shows to clear the air once & for all. My ears are popping at the slightest sound right now & it's not fun!

Stevie Ray Vaughn once stated that he liked P's playing and that he wanted to tell P that but at an awards show (either 83 Grammy's or 83 AMA's) during a commercial break, Stevie walked over to P to say hello and tell him that he liked his playing. Stevie said that he extended his hand to P to introduce himself and P just kept looking straight ahead, never acknowledging Stevie. This was in Guitar Player magazine from 86 I believe. I know Duff, the bassists from GnR. Velvet Revolver LOVES Prince and so does Slash although Slash was mad that P snubbed him when he too tried to say hello. So Slash said something to the effect that P dressed like a bitch anyways. I heard that Eddie Van Halen was a longtime P fan and that he has seen P in concert several times. Paul Stanley of KISS has stated a few times that he's a big fan of Prince and likes his guitar playing. He and Gene Simmons both saw P on the Dirty Mind tour in New York in 81 and a few times on the PR tour and the Musicology tour. Lindsey Buckingham also digs P as a guitarist. I saw him arriving at the PR premier (seperate from Stevie Nicks). Nile Rodgers loves P as a guitarist as does P-Funk guitarists Blackbyrd McKnight and Mike Hampton. They both have told me this personally. Both Kirk Hammett and James Hetfield are "admirers" of P's playing. They said this during an interview on VH1. Kendall Jones of Fishbone is also a fan of P's. So was the original guitarists of the Peppers, Hillel Slovak dug P as a guitarist as does John Frosciante. Also Ernie Isley and Neal Schon of Journey. Also Brian May of Queen has said in an interview in Guitar World that he liked Prince as a guitarist.
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machinegun said:

Oh, I love Queen.

And Brian May is a great guitar player himself.