Its strange to me seeing how so many here seem to want old/unreleased music more than new music. That's just so backwards to me. Everyone else wants new stufff from their favorite artists but not a good number of you in here. We make such a big deal out of that stuff but what if the full majority of what's in the Vault is garbage? A lot of the stuff I have from the Boots suck. Now with this said, I would love to have the stuff in the Vault but I want more new music from him. To me, the fact that he's still making new music and sharing it with us means more to me than him digging out something from 1983, though it is a great gesture that I will not say no to. [Edited 7/30/09 13:02pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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lladygold said: i dont think he really hates us,but i do think he thinks some of us r a little nuts.
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I don't think Prince hates full stop. I am probably wrong but I think Prince's attitude is riddled with almost a sense of regret. What I mean by this is that he does and rightly so massively rate himself and I think he is confused by why he can't be as popular as any other superstar. I was looking through my booklet of the One Night Alone Tour last night and reading the comments from the NPG members who got preferential seating. I was thinking how immediate he was at this stage in his career but again it was another Prince-trying on a different hat, almost as if he was saying "if I can't be this huge aloof star then I'll be this bastion of accessibility etc" but then he left that behind and became the stadium rocker again with the musicology tour. I suppose he can be both but I don't believe it is his motivation-he never appears settled and I think that is why he behaves the way he does. To be fair he does seem to be settling into his dotage.
Also I get the sense that Prince feels he is owed-that he has put in the work and now wants to see his legacy working for him. This makes him comes across as a bit precious but I think he looks back and sees how much money was generated-wasted and taken from him. Money I think for him is more than just greed it is symbolic of personal control and it is this control that can make him look like a hater. Because he is now a one man band he now has to be almost paranoid about his surroundings | |
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ShinNihonKikou said: I posted something similar on the Lotus board, but I think it's relevant here as well...
Prince has hundreds/thousands of unreleased videos, songs... all sitting there in the vault. Many think his best work is unreleased. My question is, after being "freed" from Warner in 1996, changing his name back to Prince in 2000, why hasn't more of this work seen the light of day? In the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona (by another genius, Woody Allen), the main character's father is a poet who refuses to publish his poems because he "hates people so he denies them his best work." Do you think Prince hates people, and society as a whole (and even us, his fans) so he denies us what we want? what makes you think, that being a fan entitles you the right to claim his creative works? | |
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ShinNihonKikou said: I posted something similar on the Lotus board, but I think it's relevant here as well...
Prince has hundreds/thousands of unreleased videos, songs... all sitting there in the vault. Many think his best work is unreleased. My question is, after being "freed" from Warner in 1996, changing his name back to Prince in 2000, why hasn't more of this work seen the light of day? In the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona (by another genius, Woody Allen), the main character's father is a poet who refuses to publish his poems because he "hates people so he denies them his best work." Do you think Prince hates people, and society as a whole (and even us, his fans) so he denies us what we want? Talk about having a false sense of entitlement. Just because we know it exists doesn't mean we have a right to hear it, especially if it's personal stuff. And if it's not out, how could it be because of him hating us? You sound paranoid and crazy as a bat talking like that. And if Prince did release all of that rare stuff uncensored that a lot of us in here have, including me, many of you in here will bitch and moan like a dog in heat cause that's what most of y'all do in here all the time anyways, so Prince won't win in doing it. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: amorbella said: No, I honestly don't think he hates his fans..
I agree 100%. I think if he did, he would have expressed it already. He has expressed it very clearly by the way he treats people. For instance, the baby who was dancing to Let's Go Crazy on Youtube, which was playing waaay in the background, and he decided to get all riled up about it and make them take it down, and there are several other examples of how he behaves...it is clear that he has no respect for his fans and former fans | |
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kenlacam said: purplecam said: I agree 100%. I think if he did, he would have expressed it already. He has expressed it very clearly by the way he treats people. For instance, the baby who was dancing to Let's Go Crazy on Youtube, which was playing waaay in the background, and he decided to get all riled up about it and make them take it down, and there are several other examples of how he behaves...it is clear that he has no respect for his fans and former fans sometimes I think its the other way around. Fans don't respect him.... Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here | |
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I don't think he can really hate his fans without fans he would never have been sucessful.Unless he's grew bitter over the years or somthing.. | |
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ShinNihonKikou said: I posted something similar on the Lotus board, but I think it's relevant here as well...
Prince has hundreds/thousands of unreleased videos, songs... all sitting there in the vault. Many think his best work is unreleased. My question is, after being "freed" from Warner in 1996, changing his name back to Prince in 2000, why hasn't more of this work seen the light of day? In the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona (by another genius, Woody Allen), the main character's father is a poet who refuses to publish his poems because he "hates people so he denies them his best work." Do you think Prince hates people, and society as a whole (and even us, his fans) so he denies us what we want? Prince definitely have some WEIRD fans, (I am not a fan of this word but its convenient for the moment) i dont blame him for keeping his distance, some of you all are a trip and as far as society, if prince doesnt like people I dont blame him, alot of people are incredibly judgemental, pessimistic, and unloyal and when Prince does give us something, most of you "fans" just b!tch so he's probably like screw it | |
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ShinNihonKikou said: I posted something similar on the Lotus board, but I think it's relevant here as well...
Prince has hundreds/thousands of unreleased videos, songs... all sitting there in the vault. Many think his best work is unreleased. My question is, after being "freed" from Warner in 1996, changing his name back to Prince in 2000, why hasn't more of this work seen the light of day? In the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona (by another genius, Woody Allen), the main character's father is a poet who refuses to publish his poems because he "hates people so he denies them his best work." Do you think Prince hates people, and society as a whole (and even us, his fans) so he denies us what we want? No, he only hates you | |
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society sucks for the most part...I think he loves his fans though.
He's too eccentric to dickryde on human beings. | |
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Prince loves his fans. Only someone that's never witnessed him in concert or in person in the last 30 years would think otherwise. But if you're not showing respect and loyalty, like any other person, you probably won't feel that love back! I do, thank you.
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amorbella said: kenlacam said: He has expressed it very clearly by the way he treats people. For instance, the baby who was dancing to Let's Go Crazy on Youtube, which was playing waaay in the background, and he decided to get all riled up about it and make them take it down, and there are several other examples of how he behaves...it is clear that he has no respect for his fans and former fans sometimes I think its the other way around. Fans don't respect him.... That's no lie, a good majority of them don't. Just come to this site and you'll see it everyday. An ungrateful bunch of fans as you'll ever find. The same people who are like that will be crying like a mug and act like they gave a damn when they really didn't when that fateful day happens with Prince passes on. I pray that it's no time soon but it's going to happen like it did with MJ. Guaranteed. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: amorbella said: sometimes I think its the other way around. Fans don't respect him.... That's no lie, a good majority of them don't. Just come to this site and you'll see it everyday. An ungrateful bunch of fans as you'll ever find. The same people who are like that will be crying like a mug and act like they gave a damn when they really didn't when that fateful day happens with Prince passes on. I pray that it's no time soon but it's going to happen like it did with MJ. Guaranteed. What do you mean its going to happen like MJ-apart from his hips prince is quite healthy-if anything he could do with a good vice or two. MJ-if reports can be believed was too reliant on prescription. And with P thats always been the case not some recent lifestyle choice | |
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purplecam said: Its strange to me seeing how so many here seem to want old/unreleased music more than new music. That's just so backwards to me. Everyone else wants new stufff from their favorite artists but not a good number of you in here. We make such a big deal out of that stuff but what if the full majority of what's in the Vault is garbage? A lot of the stuff I have from the Boots suck. Now with this said, I would love to have the stuff in the Vault but I want more new music from him. To me, the fact that he's still making new music and sharing it with us means more to me than him digging out something from 1983, though it is a great gesture that I will not say no to.
[Edited 7/30/09 13:02pm] I think peole want the old stuff so much is beacuse of the history and mystery surrounding it-I don't think it's just about the creative peak issue. | |
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It seems the older I get I notice more and more people want Celebs & Musicans to be like Country Acts, where they have to pretend to be one of you, like you, etc..
who cares. Enjoy the music or movie or whatever. Some now since the internet pretend to like "you" more and more it seems so it isnt all your fault. None of these people for the most part care if either way, they just pretend so you go see their movies or whatever. Prince just doesnt play that game. Listen to the music and enjoy YOUR own personal life with people you know everyday! This whole " Hey! Yeah!! Hi!! " or " Im one of you lets do this together ". pssst none of them care! God I hope they dont, they shouldn't - how many strangers do you talk to in your own personal life??? When someone asks you something longer then a minute - you leave too. You dont try to befriend some stranger in Target. | |
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sometimes I think its the other way around. Fans don't respect him....[/quote]
BAM ! You hit the nail on the head exactly. [Edited 8/4/09 7:27am] | |
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jcurley said: purplecam said: That's no lie, a good majority of them don't. Just come to this site and you'll see it everyday. An ungrateful bunch of fans as you'll ever find. The same people who are like that will be crying like a mug and act like they gave a damn when they really didn't when that fateful day happens with Prince passes on. I pray that it's no time soon but it's going to happen like it did with MJ. Guaranteed. What do you mean its going to happen like MJ-apart from his hips prince is quite healthy-if anything he could do with a good vice or two. MJ-if reports can be believed was too reliant on prescription. And with P thats always been the case not some recent lifestyle choice It's not so much where Prince is with his health, I mean folks coming out and saying "Oh I loved Prince so much!" and those same people stopped being fans after Purple Rain or Lovesexy or some other album before 2000. Those people are the ones who act like they care but haven't since the 80's. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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What are you talking about jcurley? | |
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connorhawke said: lladygold said: i dont think he really hates us,but i do think he thinks some of us r a little nuts.
A little? Some fans are so far off their fucking rocker that, if I was Prince, I'd be living in a titanium bunker two miles under the Antarctic and using untraceable robots to deliver the albums to the record company. And in between recording music I'd be rocking in a corner, holding a knife going "ohgodohgodohgodohgodohgod" Edit for spelling [Edited 7/28/09 21:20pm] unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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I don't know his reasonings behind the unreleased music, his apparent resentment towards his fans & I don't know Prince... so I won't make some blind assumption as to why he does the things he does, all I know is the vault music will be released one day, one way or another. | |
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purplecam said: jcurley said: What do you mean its going to happen like MJ-apart from his hips prince is quite healthy-if anything he could do with a good vice or two. MJ-if reports can be believed was too reliant on prescription. And with P thats always been the case not some recent lifestyle choice It's not so much where Prince is with his health, I mean folks coming out and saying "Oh I loved Prince so much!" and those same people stopped being fans after Purple Rain or Lovesexy or some other album before 2000. Those people are the ones who act like they care but haven't since the 80's. Oh right I see-you mean the hypocrisy that is unleashed when someone dies. Yeh I never get that-why do you go out and consume all that music when it was always available. I know why it happens I just cant relate to it. MJ has sold 2 million records in the UK since death-why would you not have it anyway if you like it. Yes if someone feels aggrieved by the death of someone they should start to think about giving that respect whilst they are alive | |
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No, that's silly. What he does with his art is his business.
Possible good reasons why he doesn't release a song: 1. too personal 2. doesn't fit on a album 3. song didn't turn out as expected 4. he wants to have a never before seen incredible comeback album/tour that will blow everyone away when he is 60 [Edited 9/3/09 3:43am] | |
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I don't think Prince actually hates ANYONE. It doesn't seem to jive with his nature. I just think that he is a musician that has worked soo very hard(i.e.: little to no sleep), plus the pain of his life experiences, maybe he's so afraid that he's going to get used that he just holds steadfast to eveything he has. I dunno, just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth. | |
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ShinNihonKikou said: I posted something similar on the Lotus board, but I think it's relevant here as well...
Prince has hundreds/thousands of unreleased videos, songs... all sitting there in the vault. Many think his best work is unreleased. My question is, after being "freed" from Warner in 1996, changing his name back to Prince in 2000, why hasn't more of this work seen the light of day? In the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona (by another genius, Woody Allen), the main character's father is a poet who refuses to publish his poems because he "hates people so he denies them his best work." Do you think Prince hates people, and society as a whole (and even us, his fans) so he denies us what we want? not as much as iggy hates his fans lol http://www.youtube.com/wa...TCXAUEWnps ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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these are the days of wild.... | |
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He doesn't hate us with at least one CD for every year of his career, how could he? recently acquired almost all of the NPG music club downloads and the iVault. can now safely say that 'm definitely not looking back. The future music of Prince is going to be an exciting trip. 'm glad for the older tracks but they aren't who he is now. By the way thank U 4 "Purple Music".
that song!!! When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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purplecam said: amorbella said: No, I honestly don't think he hates his fans..
I agree 100%. I think if he did, he would have expressed it already. What was P.F.U.N.K. about? | |
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RodeoSchro said: purplecam said: I agree 100%. I think if he did, he would have expressed it already. What was P.F.U.N.K. about? It wasn't about hatred of the fanbase that's for sure. If anything it was a reaction to what the fanbase had just done to him days earlier. I don't think he was happy with us and it was expressed in a song but that doesn't mean he thinks we ain't shit. I believe he would do something more obvious to truly let us know if that's what was on his mind. And that whole Youtube baby incident still doesn't prove that he hates the fans. Besides, if you or anyone else here thinks he hates you that much, then why are you still on a site about him (even if you don't talk about him, it's still a Prince fansite), let alone buying his stuff? If this is how you think he is towards you, then that's says a lot about you not Prince. [Edited 8/17/09 11:53am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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