Maybe Prince himself feel that humping a piano at 51 is inappropriate. Just like a 51 year old fan showing up to a concert in a corset and panties is inappropriate. This isn't 1984 and tastes/times have changed. Why did everyone expect Prince to live in a bubble and pop out to sing "Sister" whenever they needed a dirty, funky, sexual fix! That's why you buy a cd or a video to look back and listen or view those things that made that time great. Let the man grow as he sees fit and you never know he might surprise us all one day with a "Darling Nikki" somewhere down the line. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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Just wanted to comment on this. He will always be "his royal badness" to me. But I have been a Prince fan for a long time and I can appreciate that his music has grown and matured as I have gotten older. I'm so glad he's not stuck in a time period. He's too talented for that. | |
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All Three Lotus Flower Cd's are naughty, dirty, nasty
He hasn't lost his badness, he just gets the juices flowing in a sort of incognito way. Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here | |
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peter430044 said: The one who wasn't afraid to sing explicitly and honestly about sex. Yes, he's 51 but I disagree with the idea that if you're old that you're a dirty old man if you sing that way. Sexual expression doesn't have an age limit and it doesn't have to mean that you're singing about 18 year-olds, there are a lot of milfs out there. A lot of Prince's most inspired work, like Dirty Mind, was made when he was sexually free. Sex frees you up and inspires you beyond the obvious. Prince is a very religious man, but back in the day he realized that religion and sexual candor are not at opposite ends.
How would u feel if someone said, "I want the old "peter430044" back? Prince is what he is.....just as u are. | |
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peter430044 said: jimmyrogertodd said: Well, Prince is still Prince but if you want him to turn into the 20 year old singing songs about incest and oral sex. Ask yourself this would you want your uncle singing those songs in front of children???
Sexual songs are not for children, just as working is not for 7 year-olds. LOL too funny!!!!! Anyways, Prince seems to have lost his muse when LG came along and converted him to the cult that he is in now. | |
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I like the attitude expressions he makes.
Like the performance of Cream and Arsenio. Also was it the end of Lets Go Crazy on the Revolution Live video after the guitar solo he was looking freakish like " looking around at the crowd. very theatrical. I would love to have a picture of that pose and look. | |
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sorry, the performance of Cream on Arsenio | |
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kenlacam said: peter430044 said: Sexual songs are not for children, just as working is not for 7 year-olds. LOL too funny!!!!! Anyways, Prince seems to have lost his muse when LG came along and converted him to the cult that he is in now. Totally agree witcha brother ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The feeling you get when... (you squeeze your balls?) no that's not it... | |
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peter430044 said: Genesia said: And how old are you? Trust me - people who get to be 40 and don't treat sex in at least a slightly more circumspect manner are an embarrassment. Watch out! The age police is here. I'm 29 and being right doesn't have a 40-year-old age limit. Sex is central to the human condition and is to be celebrated, that includes being free-spoken, otherwise you're holding back. Subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another, it's variation, one should use all the tools, not throw some of the tools away and become prude. He's not a prude. Perhaps you should expand your vocabulary. You might discover that he still sings about sex. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Genesia said: And how old are you? Trust me - people who get to be 40 and don't treat sex in at least a slightly more circumspect manner are an embarrassment. I bet the same folks that want the open off the charts sexuality of what he was doing in his 20's and 30's would be mortified if Prince turned up in some Cialis commercial or did a commercial for male enhancement. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: peter430044 said: Watch out! The age police is here. I'm 29 and being right doesn't have a 40-year-old age limit. Sex is central to the human condition and is to be celebrated, that includes being free-spoken, otherwise you're holding back. Subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another, it's variation, one should use all the tools, not throw some of the tools away and become prude. He's not a prude. Perhaps you should expand your vocabulary. You might discover that he still sings about sex. Yes he does but "subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another". [Edited 7/22/09 18:17pm] | |
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What's more badass, playing the same shit for 30 years or switching it up even if it pisses off many of your devoted fans? To me "his royal badness" was all about his unabashed individuality regardless of what the masses might think. That's still there, just some folks here can't handle it this time around. C'est la vie. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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For those of you old enough; Think about the person you were 20 years ago and then ask yourself 'Am I still that person?' | |
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Vendetta1 said: prince's foolishness is not behind him. He's 51 and still playing games.
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Genesia said: peter430044 said: Watch out! The age police is here. I'm 29 and being right doesn't have a 40-year-old age limit. Sex is central to the human condition and is to be celebrated, that includes being free-spoken, otherwise you're holding back. Subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another, it's variation, one should use all the tools, not throw some of the tools away and become prude. He's not a prude. Perhaps you should expand your vocabulary. You might discover that he still sings about sex. Exactly. Just because his songs are not explicit doesn't mean that he has left sexuality/sensuality behind. Listen to "Mellow" or "Boom." | |
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I don't miss the it at all. He has evolved and his music has matured with him.
If you see him live, you will better understand where he is in life and how happy he is, and that comes thru in the music. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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Dayclear said: I've been a Prince fan since the early 80's, and Prince and I are about the same age. I have followed his career and life and kind of grown at the same time and matured in the same way that he has. Now it bothers me in ways I can't express why people won't respect the man that he has become, and are disrespectful of his religious choices and care more about what they want him to be, that for who he really is. I guess most of them just are too young to realize that as you grow you leave a lot of foolishness behind you. Prince has paid his dues in ways that many can't even begin to imagine and he's not going backwards for anybody. So to cut this sermon short with a line from the man himself. Letitgo.
Mind your own motherfucker, let a man be a man. I couldn't have said that any better. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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I think Prince stood for something importnant back when he sang more freely. It was an ideological point of view. It sent a message that sexual expression doesn't need to go through a conservative moral filter, doesn't need to be deprived of it's full potential and thereby the whole truth. I think it's sad that an importnant artist like Prince relented to political correctness. | |
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kenlacam said: peter430044 said: Sexual songs are not for children, just as working is not for 7 year-olds. LOL too funny!!!!! Anyways, Prince seems to have lost his muse when LG came along and converted him to the cult that he is in now. Well, as you age you begin to see somethings in a different light and maybe he see those songs and the mentality that he had at that time as something that he should just put on hiatus and just sing things that he could sing in front of all audiences. Like all those cartoons that sneak adult humor in but over the heads of the children in the audience is basically what I am suggesting but at 29 you would not feel this way cause you want him to say and do things the way that you at your age would do them but life doesn't always work that way. Prince has gotten more into religion and what he thinks is more appropriate for him at this time. I am close to his age and I can understand how when you feel your mortality tug at you and think of some of the things that you have done in your past and the moral implications, you actually question your previous response to the same situation so cut the man some slack. Pray that your day will come if you live to be that age. Cause you make a lot of decisions when you are young that you would never want to revisit in your older years, trust me. [Edited 7/23/09 5:25am] | |
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thinking.....yeah still thinking Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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jimmyrogertodd said: kenlacam said: LOL too funny!!!!! Anyways, Prince seems to have lost his muse when LG came along and converted him to the cult that he is in now. Well, as you age you begin to see somethings in a different light and maybe he see those songs and the mentality that he had at that time as something that he should just put on hiatus and just sing things that he could sing in front of all audiences. Like all those cartoons that sneak adult humor in but over the heads of the children in the audience is basically what I am suggesting but at 29 you would not feel this way cause you want him to say and do things the way that you at your age would do them but life doesn't always work that way. Prince has gotten more into religion and what he thinks is more appropriate for him at this time. I am close to his age and I can understand how when you feel your mortality tug at you and think of some of the things that you have done in your past and the moral implications, you actually question your previous response to the same situation so cut the man some slack. Pray that your day will come if you live to be that age. Cause you make a lot of decisions when you are young that you would never want to revisit in your older years, trust me. [Edited 7/23/09 5:25am] Again, being right doesn't have a middle-aged age limit. All songs don't have to be for all audiences just like some films are for an adult audience with adult subjects. I understand very well how many people age and begin to question their earlier ideas and a lot of the time they become wiser. But when it comes to sexual expression, one should think again, and think about the moral implications of a society that is overly shy about sexual expression and deprives it of it's full potential. So he sang about blowjobs in Head, good for him, good for us, a song that can be put to good use in the bedroom or at a party. | |
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peter430044 said: I think Prince stood for something importnant back when he sang more freely. It was an ideological point of view. It sent a message that sexual expression doesn't need to go through a conservative moral filter, doesn't need to be deprived of it's full potential and thereby the whole truth. I think it's sad that an importnant artist like Prince relented to political correctness.
Maybe singing lines like "In my daddy's car..." or "I was only 16..." don't sound the same when you're 51! At 51 you shouldn't be trying to "lay anyone down in yo' daddy's car...". By then you should have your own ride! When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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peter430044 said: Genesia said: He's not a prude. Perhaps you should expand your vocabulary. You might discover that he still sings about sex. Yes he does but "subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another".[/b] You can't get much more unsubtle than "I don't want to kiss your lips until I get to (Umph!) your hips" from 4ever, off lotusflow3r, released just this year. Remember? I won't mention the way he sings Elixer. OK it's a pun but damn that's pretty explicit. Prince. Has. Not. Changed. That. Much. Just somewhere in the middle,
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HonestMan13 said: peter430044 said: I think Prince stood for something importnant back when he sang more freely. It was an ideological point of view. It sent a message that sexual expression doesn't need to go through a conservative moral filter, doesn't need to be deprived of it's full potential and thereby the whole truth. I think it's sad that an importnant artist like Prince relented to political correctness.
Maybe singing lines like "In my daddy's car..." or "I was only 16..." don't sound the same when you're 51! At 51 you shouldn't be trying to "lay anyone down in yo' daddy's car...". By then you should have your own ride! If he sang "in my daddy's car" at 51 it wouldn't be taken literally. [Edited 7/23/09 7:06am] | |
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peter430044 said: Genesia said: And how old are you? Trust me - people who get to be 40 and don't treat sex in at least a slightly more circumspect manner are an embarrassment. Watch out! The age police is here. I'm 29 and being right doesn't have a 40-year-old age limit. Sex is central to the human condition and is to be celebrated, that includes being free-spoken, otherwise you're holding back. Subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another, it's variation, one should use all the tools, not throw some of the tools away and become prude. And I'm 30 and that means nothing. People have the right to change how they view sex and how they express it. You needs to accept and respect the fact that it's Prince's choice to express sex how he wants to. That's part of growing up and maturing, which a lot of people in here still need to do, no matter how old they are. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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KeithyT said: peter430044 said: Yes he does but "subtle and explicit singing about sex are not enemies of one another".[/b] You can't get much more unsubtle than "I don't want to kiss your lips until I get to (Umph!) your hips" from 4ever, off lotusflow3r, released just this year. Remember? I won't mention the way he sings Elixer. OK it's a pun but damn that's pretty explicit. Prince. Has. Not. Changed. That. Much. That line in 4ever is a very good and unsubtle line. And if he turned up some of his lyrics a few degrees more it would be a nice comeback. | |
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peter430044 said: HonestMan13 said: Maybe singing lines like "In my daddy's car..." or "I was only 16..." don't sound the same when you're 51! At 51 you shouldn't be trying to "lay anyone down in yo' daddy's car...". By then you should have your own ride! If he sang "in my daddy's car" at 51 it wouldn't be taken literally. [Edited 7/23/09 7:06am] Exactly! It loses it's impact when sung by an older gentleman. While these songs are indeed classics they also are dated by the times they were recorded in for the most part. Some could still translate to a performance now but maybe Prince no longer feels "it" when he sings these lines. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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I agree with the thoughts about his age. My question is, if the 'bad boy' Prince was still as bad today, wouldn't it become a bit pasé or tired after a while? I wouldn't mind it on occasion, but the musical ability on stage that is being offered in exchange for lace, humping the mic, and no-ass pants is a fair trade for me personally. I also think that the musical flirting and lyrical innuendos will never fade away entirely. [Edited 7/23/09 7:16am] | |
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Prince won't win even if he does sing songs like Head or Erotic City again. People will say "he's to old to be singing that" or in this place specifically, people will wonder how "honest" he's being singing those songs today or how inspiring the performance was behind Darling Nikki or Sexy MF. It's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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