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Reply #60 posted 07/19/09 10:48am

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Anxiety said:

Whether the complaints are valid or not, I know it's not unusual for Prince to repeat songs when he does multiple shows in one day, so I'm not surprised it happened this weekend. That said, just in general, I'm happy to see that he IS mixing up his usual set list and throwing in some lesser-played material. I hope it's a trend that continues, and he keeps throwing some random rare gems in his shows.


I agree. I've been to many Prince concerts and don't recall having heard him sing I love you u but I don't trust u anymore, Insatiable, and Scandolus...I would have given my all just 2 hear him sing these tunes.
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Reply #61 posted 07/19/09 10:56am

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Well, after the triple-show event in L.A this year
I would agree that it IS kind of a disappointment to
see him repeating that many tracks within a single
evening.

When did P do THAT before with both shows announced
and sold in advance even, Anxiety?!

To my mind, Udo made some valid statements indeed,
and it had been reported before that the original
plans were including a third show, touching different
grounds, style-wise, so why take such a remarkable
step backwards here? Too bad that with P you'll
just never know.
Free the music.
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Reply #62 posted 07/19/09 11:00am

eelco

People are complaining that the shows were alike??? Come on now, they were billed as a 1st and a 2nd show and NOWHERE was it stated that they would be different shows , right? That was all assumptions on our side, nothing more, nothing less. Don't like it? Pity but it was your OWN risk

I agree that Prince appears to have some egomaniac issues but let's keep things fair,ok? Suggestions are fine I think but the way they are expressed here, they DO seem to reflect on personalities and appear as complaints in search of complaints ONLY.

On the other hand, no need to suggest getting laid or smoke pot either. (read the harrasment sticky???!!!)

Sorry to ramble but I'm getting sick and tired of the only Prince Message board being polluted with all this namecalling and stuff, especially on a rather interesting thread like this one

outta here....
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Reply #63 posted 07/19/09 11:04am

Anxiety

LOGIC said:

Well, after the triple-show event in L.A this year
I would agree that it IS kind of a disappointment to
see him repeating that many tracks within a single
evening.


When did P do THAT before with both shows announced
and sold in advance even, Anxiety?!


To my mind, Udo made some valid statements indeed,
and it had been reported before that the original
plans were including a third show, touching different
grounds, style-wise, so why take such a remarkable
step backwards here? Too bad that with P you'll
just never know.


For starters, 7/7/07. there was a lot of repetition within the set lists throughout the day. from my recollection, it wasn't that big of a deal because there were a lot of people who couldn't make all three shows.
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Reply #64 posted 07/19/09 11:05am

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[Picture removed on request of NPG/lotusflow3r

Sorry. -Mars23]


a camera... cool




I just hope and pray that the DVD won't be a "Best of Montreux".....beg

I hope both shows will be released...

but it's Prince... so.. pray
[Edited 7/19/09 11:07am]
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Reply #65 posted 07/19/09 11:21am

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> For starters, 7/7/07. there was a lot of repetition
> within the set lists throughout the day.
> from my recollection, it wasn't that big of a deal
> because there were a lot of people who couldn't make
> all three shows.

You said it, Anxiety. Those were 3 different venues
even. But if folks are paying the steep prices which
P enjoys charging in a setting such as the Montreux
Festival, and if he's appearing twice for twice the
cash, then why not present them with something else
but 2x 90 minutes?

To my mind, Prince knows that it would be damaging his
reputation if he did these same-day repetitions more
often. And rightfully so. I mean The Beatles used to
do tours between 1964 and 1966 with 2 daily shows of
just 30-minutes each, playing almost no unexpected
stuff at all. But that was then, and I'm sure Prince
wouldn't be too happy about having to comment on this.

If you're at the Olympics & you're known for running
100 meters in less than 10 seconds, then folks might
be irritated if it suddenly takes you 12 seconds to
reach the finishing line. Funny comparison, but I
guess you'll get my point: Prince has come up
with his own standards in every resoect imaginable –
so why should we not dare to take the freedom to
remind him of just those?

I'm sure both gigs were quite outstanding anyway.
(Just in case anyone may have felt tempted to
recommend some pot or some wild, swinging sex to me
also now.)
Free the music.
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Reply #66 posted 07/19/09 11:29am

potser

udo said:

potser said:

Udo is the only real genius.Udo needs a life. Who needs
Udo?

Very insightful remarks to counter my statements.
You have no business with my life, I was actually there.



Dear Udo,

I was there as well, both concerts (were you the sadly looking guy with the earplugs in?), and although short I had the time of my life. I saw a genius at work. One of his best concerts ever at least from the one I saw. And you are right, you can say whatever you want. I actually liked some songs to be heared for the 2nd time. Wish he had done empty room twice and wish he will never do Elixer again.
So just keep nagging. I never react to your probably honest and negative posts, and sometimes I feel you might be right, but this time you were ruining my morning after smile

sleep safe,
[Edited 7/19/09 12:22pm]
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Reply #67 posted 07/19/09 11:30am

harveya

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MobeenAzhar said:

Ok, I'm on the train back to the airport. I'm the man with the yellow stripe across my eyes-you see me? Anyway, show one was a dream set list. He played really beautiful, intricate versions of new and old stuff. The stage was spaced out and with such a small band, you could hear every note that was played. As he said: 'when you have this band, you don't need a big band'. It was great to hear obscurities and the elixer tunes. The only issue was the repetition in the 2 sets-you have enough tunes man-sort it out! Overall, a fantastic night.

X

You were looking slightly worse for wear on the flight back to London City, if that was you minus yellow stripe! Cool T-shirt too...
We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good
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Reply #68 posted 07/19/09 11:38am

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I just got back to the UK from Montreux, haven't slept for 38 hours cos' I couldn't find anywhere to stay and I'm still on a high.

These shows were phenomenal (if a little short but I'll take quality over quantity any day!) I seriously hope that this makes it to (official) dvd cos' those of you who missed them are going to be blown away. He may not have been happy with some of the performances in the first set but trust me they were flawless, Empty Room actually brought tears to my eyes and Prince hasn't had that effect on me since I was a teenager.

Anyway now to hunt down the boots!! lol (and then get some sleep before I collapse!!)




. too tired to spell properly edit.
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Reply #69 posted 07/19/09 11:42am

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potser said:

udo said:


Very insightful remarks to counter my statements.
You have no business with my life, I was actually there.



Dear Udo,

I was there as well, both concerts (were you the sadly looking guy with the earplugs in?), and although short I had the time of my life. I saw a genius at work. One of his best concerts ever at least form the one I saw. And you are right, you can say whatever you want and I actually liked some songs to be heared for the 2nd time. Wish he had done empty room twice.
So just keep nagging. I never react yo you hinest and negative posts, adn sometimes I fgeel you are very right, and this time you were ruining my morning after smile

sleep safe,



nod nod nod


This weekend has just made it to my top Prince performances of all time!
worship worship worship
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Reply #70 posted 07/19/09 11:44am

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To review the shows tho...

I was slightly disappointed with the repeated tunes... he did mention at the beginning of Scandalous that he has too many hits, so...
Empty Room was stunning (altho i'm slightly confused by the marching band styled drum intro...), and it was nice to hear She Spoke To Me, When The Lights, When I Lay My Hands etc played live - not sure if the new tunes worked too well tho.
And did I hear right during All The Critics (excellent stomping version!) "My body don't want to quit, I gotta get another hip"? - Mr. Hayes was chuckling about something after that line...
Enjoyed the Renato/Prince "battles" on keys/guitar...
Prince sitting at the side of the stage on his amp stack for the end guitar part of Large Room was very cool...
I heard a couple of people afterwards mentioning that it seemed as tho he was exorcising his recent divorce with the song selection - and the passion/aggression in some songs would back that up... 2nd show's I Love U... would be a good example, as would Empty Room.

Now... I need sleeeeep... confused
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Reply #71 posted 07/19/09 11:50am

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WOAH VERY NICE SET !!! I bet "ALL THIS LOVE" was killer live


Prince wearing clear wedges ...interesting hmmm
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Reply #72 posted 07/19/09 11:51am

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MobeenAzhar said:

Ok, I'm on the train back to the airport. I'm the man with the yellow stripe across my eyes-you see me? Anyway, show one was a dream set list. He played really beautiful, intricate versions of new and old stuff. The stage was spaced out and with such a small band, you could hear every note that was played. As he said: 'when you have this band, you don't need a big band'. It was great to hear obscurities and the elixer tunes. The only issue was the repetition in the 2 sets-you have enough tunes man-sort it out! Overall, a fantastic night.

X



I was stood right next to you at one point, if I'd known you were an orger I woulda said hi. biggrin
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Reply #73 posted 07/19/09 12:09pm

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xenon said:


This weekend has just made it to my top Prince performances of all time!
worship worship worship


I agree - possibly Prince's best performance, musically, that I've seen, but not due to show length and doubling up songs... Not a complaint, tho, just an observation
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Reply #74 posted 07/19/09 12:18pm

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Anxiety said:

Whether the complaints are valid or not,


NOT

Honestly Anx when you here these show's and see the dvd you're gonna think wtf were people complaining about. As I've said on my last few post's both these shows were FUCKING FANTASTIC but once again it's the usual airsoles complaining about any old shit that pops into their tiny shrivelled brains but as they point out they are entitled to their opinion.

They may be intitled but they're still wrong. lol
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Reply #75 posted 07/19/09 12:34pm

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harveya said:

xenon said:


This weekend has just made it to my top Prince performances of all time!
worship worship worship


I agree - possibly Prince's best performance, musically, that I've seen, but not due to show length and doubling up songs... Not a complaint, tho, just an observation


Yeah that's fair enough, but as I said I would much rather sit through 90 minutes of complete perfection than have to sit my way through 2 an a half hours of hits and mediocre fillers.

The quality of the musicianship on these show's is the best I have ever seen. Not only from Prince but the rest of the band too, we all know they're good but after these show's they deserve the upmost kudos.

Hell I woulda paid double the amount just for 2 minutes if these jams.
Some people are like Slinkies...

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Reply #76 posted 07/19/09 12:35pm

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Oh and don't even get me started on Prince's vocals!!! eek
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Reply #77 posted 07/19/09 12:42pm

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udo said:

Not everyone had a great time.
The whole situation sucked quite a bit.
The first show was good, especially the main part.

Prince failed to communicate he was recording a DVD, with us as his too much paying audience, so during the 2nd show fans were pissed with the songs played twice.
Prince was unhappy with these songs from show #1. (perfection...)
He changed the setlist of the 2nd show on the spot but failed to make up to the fans in the first row.

Prince needs a manager: Prince needs to widen his perspective. Prince needs to communicate. Prince needs to be less selfish. (why record a DVD and be #1 at the bank?

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Did you expect P to give you a phone call concerning the filming?
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Reply #78 posted 07/19/09 12:43pm

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lezama said:

udo said:

Complaint?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
See it as a suggestion to improve on stuff.

The fact that you weren't there and/or did not get this information from witnesses does not lessen the truth in my statements.


The fact of you being there doesn't lessen the validity of my observation that all you do is whine and complaine. Getting laid once in a while or smoking a joint are not bad suggestions. smile

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Reply #79 posted 07/19/09 12:48pm

potser

MobeenAzhar said:

Ok, I'm on the train back to the airport. I'm the man with the yellow stripe across my eyes-you see me? Anyway, show one was a dream set list. He played really beautiful, intricate versions of new and old stuff. The stage was spaced out and with such a small band, you could hear every note that was played. As he said: 'when you have this band, you don't need a big band'. It was great to hear obscurities and the elixer tunes. The only issue was the repetition in the 2 sets-you have enough tunes man-sort it out! Overall, a fantastic night.

X


Hey, we saw you, we wanted to talk to you but got caught in the discussion what had happened to you. We could not decide on the following options:

1: You have seen too many reruns of Hiawatha
2: You are pretesting a vertical tanner and you were one lamp short
3: You took the very very long (and sunny) skieing path on Quatre Valley to reach Montreux
4: You made a tribute to MJ by showing some vitiligo spots
5. A new fashion statement
6: You peeked through the letterbox of you neighbour, hoping to see her naked, but instead catched her airbrushing an MJ portrait


By the time we made a decision you were gone. But we nust admit that we liked it.

Hope to see you next year!
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Reply #80 posted 07/19/09 12:50pm

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laurarichardson said:

udo said:

Not everyone had a great time.
The whole situation sucked quite a bit.
The first show was good, especially the main part.

Prince failed to communicate he was recording a DVD, with us as his too much paying audience, so during the 2nd show fans were pissed with the songs played twice.
Prince was unhappy with these songs from show #1. (perfection...)
He changed the setlist of the 2nd show on the spot but failed to make up to the fans in the first row.

Prince needs a manager: Prince needs to widen his perspective. Prince needs to communicate. Prince needs to be less selfish. (why record a DVD and be #1 at the bank?

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Did you expect P to give you a phone call concerning the filming?


Trust me it's not even worth reading Udo's comments. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The guy is a complete fuckin' cock. nod
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Reply #81 posted 07/19/09 1:00pm

cream72

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/...34b85.html

Prince fans from across Europe converged on Montreux for two shows by the American musician whose rare appearance on the continent stretched well into Sunday morning.

Singer Prince returns to his hotel holding an umbrella after the first of his two shows

The 51-year-old star closed the two-week Swiss Montreux Jazz Festival with a mix of old hits including "Little Red Corvette," "Peach" and "Purple Rain" and fresh titles such as "Elixir" from his new album with singer Bria Valente.

Wearing a bright red suit, geometric gold necklace, and red and white platform shoes, the artist appeared on stage with his red guitar, bathed in his trademark purple light.

"Montreux, thank you," Prince said, as he blew a kiss to the crowd before kicking off an encore with "Insatiable."

Some 8,000 tickets for his two back-to-back concerts, priced up to $480 (294 pounds) each, sold out in a record eight minutes when his only European booking this summer was announced just days after the death of Michael Jackson.

Prince performed a jazzy version of the song "In a Large Room With No Light" for both shows in Montreux, which organizers praised as a "groovy mix of soul, jazz and funk."

Changing into a metallic grey outfit, he closed the second show with "Purple Rain," a chart-topper marking its 25th year.

John Blackwell (drums), Rhonda Smith (bass) and Renato Net and Morris Hayes (both on keyboards) accompanied Prince at Stravinski Auditorium.

"LOVE OF EUROPE"

Claude Nobs, founder of the festival in its 43rd annual edition, told fans cheering in vain for a second encore: "The jazz set he created here tonight has never been performed elsewhere."

Prince made his only other appearance at the legendary jazz festival along Lake Geneva two years ago, showing up at 3 a.m. to jam with his band at a free cafe.

Smith, his Canadian bassist and vocalist, said that the 2007 experience had convinced Prince to accept the return booking.

"It's the love of the European public. He had a great time last time. There is a lot of respect, a relaxing feel and a very high artistic level," Smith told the Swiss daily Le Matin.

"It's like nowhere else," she said.

"This was a very different show," said Patrick O'Keeffe, from Ireland. "He rarely plays with just three band members, normally it is much bigger band with brass and horns and sax."

Alessandro Rossi drove from Italy to catch the Grammy- and Academy- winner from Minneapolis. Rossi, in a purple t-shirt with "Prince" on the back, said: "Prince is always number one."


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Reply #82 posted 07/19/09 1:02pm

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Anxiety said:

Whether the complaints are valid or not, I know it's not unusual for Prince to repeat songs when he does multiple shows in one day, so I'm not surprised it happened this weekend. That said, just in general, I'm happy to see that he IS mixing up his usual set list and throwing in some lesser-played material. I hope it's a trend that continues, and he keeps throwing some random rare gems in his shows.

nod
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Reply #83 posted 07/19/09 1:08pm

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Prince's singing ability would silence ANY critic last night - my goosebumbs where moshing!! one couldn't help but be memorised by his powerful sexuality.
sound was really tweeked, just flawless.
visually stimulating, but i agree with other comments that the stage was not high enough - i dont remember ever having so much trouble seeing an artist whilst only 7 or 8 meters away from the stage.
setlist was wonderful.

Prince foreplayed the crowd so wonderfully but then walked out ending the concert, i thought, prematurely. i guess i was hoping i'd see the prince super encors hes come to be known for. and then, once he walked off, the crowd called for prince to come back while the festival's host as he tried to make the festival closing speech.

And, i'm sorry to say, the love wasn't really there, he didnt connect with the audience, i mean 'really' connect. to be fair to him though i think it was more the audience which seem to react mostly to his classics (i.e little red corvette)

still, 10/10. i just know his concerts are usually 15/10.
look forward to seeing him again.
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Reply #84 posted 07/19/09 1:16pm

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I could handle the same songs twice, especially when it's songs I haven't heard live like 'WHen I Lay My Hands On U' and the like.
Also happy to see less covers this time out.

Hope he'll play someplace stateside where I can see him.
L.A. was never possible for me, but if he'd even do another residency in Vegas, I'd make the trip this time.

I know I talk a lot of shit, but Prince is incredible live. It erases all his other bullshit for me when I see him perform. I'm always reminded of why I keep hanging around.
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Reply #85 posted 07/19/09 1:17pm

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when eye lay my hands on u sounded phenomenal. did he change the lyrics?
i heard some parts that are not in the original.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #86 posted 07/19/09 1:29pm

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harveya said:

And did I hear right during All The Critics (excellent stomping version!) "My body don't want to quit, I gotta get another hip"?




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Reply #87 posted 07/19/09 1:35pm

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IstenSzek said:

when eye lay my hands on u sounded phenomenal. did he change the lyrics?
i heard some parts that are not in the original.



We're you there?? :faintsatthemissedopportunity:
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Reply #88 posted 07/19/09 1:38pm

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He's looking good. nod
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Reply #89 posted 07/19/09 1:53pm

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do u think it will be up in lotusflow3r
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