an opinion that by its own definition does not allow for differing opinions to exist, or that dismisses or condemns differing opinions, is not what i consider intelligent. you might want to stifle that laugh.

an opinion that by its own definition does not allow for differing opinions to exist, or that dismisses or condemns differing opinions, is not what i consider intelligent. you might want to stifle that laugh.

.....and If i DON'T?

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Watch you might get banned from the board

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Watch you might get banned from the board

I do agree with some of your points but, why so aggressive and defensive? This is a Prince music discussion forum, right? And I think people have every right to DISCUSS in a friendly manner whether they like a reworked version of an old song or whether they find it weaker than the original. And yes,the old one is an "original" regardless of it being a bootleg song.I for instance will always regard the circulating We Can Funk 1986 version as the "original" version even though I had the Graffiti Bridge version years before I got the bootleg 1986 version...but I still consider the bootleg version closer to the "original" idea of that song. I mean,it was one of Chick Huntsberry´s favorite songs, it is one of MY favorite songs, so what if it´s a bootleg ? The released version is , IMO, ridiculous and just wrong, so I never listen to it.

This being said, I am the kind of listener who , most of the time, enjoys all interpretations of a good Prince song. There doesn´t even have to be a real progression compared to the original,sometimes a very sparse and minimalistic reworking can be very interesting, too.
For instance, I LOVE all versions and incarnations of Something In The Water, from rehearsals to reworkings and live renditions,I can´t get enough of it and don´t compare one version with another but, to each his own, I find it perfectly normal for Prince fans to discuss a new version the way some people do over here.

Then again, I do agree with what you said about MJ and appreciating Prince while he´s still here with us, still out there on the road, performing and looking healthy and happy, no doubt about that. We should appreciate that and not take it for granted but, in all fairness, nothing wrong with some critical scepticism.

Banned 4 what?

I don't understand why people keep saying "well it's JAZZ for a JAZZ FEST" as though that is supposed to explain the limpness of this track. Do y'all listen to jazz? And I'm not talking about the easy listening quiet storm jazz station on your radio. I"m talking about JAZZ. That has life, energy, improvisation, experimentation.

This version, on its own terms, in no comparison to any other version that may exist illegally or not... this version is cautious, breezy, and pleasant. But it's not compelling. It doesn't make you stop what you're doing and want to hit rewind because some note or lyric or vocal just made you say WHOA. It's just MEH.

Even his vocals sound tentative, almost hesitant, on this track. The drumming while quick on the snare is light on the kick, the bass is unremarkable, though the key/synth work does tickle.

But that's it. By JAZZ standards this song is an unremarkable but pleasant listening experience.

Critical of a song that u got 4 free that Prince was kind enough 2 share?
Seems a bit over the top IMHO. Prince did NOT have 2 put this track up.
Would the fans rather not have anything?

Critical of a song that u got 4 free that Prince was kind enough 2 share?
Seems a bit over the top IMHO. Prince did NOT have 2 put this track up.
Would the fans rather not have anything?

Not anywhere near as good as the original, IMHO, but not a bad re-working.

I wonder if the Montreaux people know this song is 20 years old.

Do you seriously expect longtime Prince afficionados to just remain silent and grateful instead of having a discussion in a forum called Prince:MUSIC and More ? Isn´t that an insult to the intelligence of grown folks who have been following and supporting him for decades through the thick and the thin ?
What´s so wrong about discussing a song or having an opinion ....just because the song in question hasn´t been released before?
The old versions DO exist, and just like cineasts who discuss alternative versions of their favorite films, interesting trivia and little tidbits, people here love to share their opinion, whether positive or negative, when it comes to the music of Prince.
I for one,as I said in my post above, appreciate a lot of things about Prince and his music but I think we are not doing any of us, least of all Prince, a big favor when we remain silent or act like sheep just because a song has not "officially" been released.

Prince knows why people go bananas when he plays Empty Room, Large Room or even released but rarely played gems like I´m Yours....he knows that we know these songs and it´s a tongue-in-cheek situation for both parties involved.
And he should finally understand that, no matter how long these gems have been floating around in various quality, that we´d still luckily shell out big bucks to get a proper release of the old gems OR new versions or both, even if we already own them as bootlegs.

I just don´t understand the mutually negative tone of some people around here, whether in favor of Prince or not. Appreciate Prince but also appreciate his intelligent and diverse fan base ( and this great website and its mods).

"you don't get the chemistry that you hear on the original"

Maybe you meant to say that in your post but you did not say that.
This versions chemistry is fine as this is the Jazz Fest version not the original.

Once again live in the present if you did not know who played on the orignal may guess is you would not care about the chemistry of the players.

Some of you are so out of it you don't even realize how much the boots, vault and original players really don't matter to the average person whom I assume might comprise the 7,000 or so people who brough tickets to this show.

He is doing the jazz thing now so deal with it or move on.
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Come on
We don't have the song yet, we got to listen to it
The next step will be to pay for it, which is cool
Kind enough 2 share? reaching just a bit

Music is critiqued
You think Prince doesn't critique other artists and music?

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I think sometimes those who get mad when fans say anything they do consider positive about Prince, think they are protecting Prince or that they are his best friend or lover.

It is a jazz fest with loads of acts on it that are not Jazz acts. What is your point? The track was put out to give people a taste of what he is going to be doing at the fest. Since it is Prince perhaps the live performance will be more like "real jazz".

If you don't like it fine but it would be great if some of you took it for what it is a taste of what the performance at the show will be like.

Why is this so hard to understand?

I did say it, it you read my post with your attitude you would get it,
I was comparing songs
And I didn't say I didn't like it (again if you read my post) I did like it I said I liked it for a remix and I liked it for a live performance at the Jazz fest

I know mostly who played on the original: Eric Leeds also talked about it in an interview: Eric Sheila Lisa Wendy, Atlanta Levi Susannah

No your out of it, to be a Prince fan and not realize how much bands and band members matter to Prince music, there are always discussion on it
Your nuts

Yeah he's doing the show, I'm happy, no one is complaining about that or his current band.

This whole discussion is about the remix of a classic song

THAT'S IT, U ARE MAKING IT MORE THAN THAT. SHUT THE HELL UP AND LET PEOPLE DISCUSS WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT
MACADAMIAN

Well if it's flawed to listen to the song in context of what it used to be (the 20-yr-old version), then I contend it's just is flawed to listen to it in context of what it MIGHT BE in some future performance.

I'm just listening to the song on its own terms. I don't see why that is so hard to understand.

Often times when people criticize a Prince song, one of the most common retorts is "you must just not like that style of music." So the R&B people say to the rock fans "y'all just don't get it"; the rock fans say to the R&B people "y'all just don't get it"; and now the people are saying "it's jazz, just must not get it."

I'm saying listen to it in the context of jazz... the latter half of the song sounds promising, mostly due (not surprisingly) to Prince's guitar work.

But for the most part, it sounds like something that could have come off one of those Bob Belden "princejazz" cds.


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