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Reply #120 posted 07/15/09 8:14am

robertes71

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It's nice.

Wish I didn't have to stare at that goofy photo while I'm listening, tho... confused Seriously, is that a robe?
[Edited 7/15/09 8:15am]
"Plaid shorts are completely over."
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Reply #121 posted 07/15/09 8:15am

funksterr

Hmmm...

1999 The New Master
Old Friends For Sale (The Vault)
The Christ
Movie Star (jam of the year intro)

I can name more, but I wonder:
What has 2000's Prince got against 1980's Prince's music.
And why can't we get the classics for real with no bs.
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Reply #122 posted 07/15/09 8:19am

Anxiety

contrapposto said:

I can't believe I am going to say this but I really don't like it. neutral

On one hand I really appreciate the sentiment and think it's sweet of prince to put this out there knowing that there are purple geeks like me that have hoped this song (and many other unreleased gems) would one day be released.

On the other hand the rerecording of this is light years away from the original (obv just my opinion) and the moment I finished listening my brain was blah... it's just so anticlimactic. Ya know what, it actually made me sad (doesn't take much lately, lol). There was absolutely NO magic in this version- the previous had such a vivid life of it's own and always gave me that feeling you get when you fall in love with a song for the first time. That intangible something that made me get so involved in the prince world waaaay back when I first heard the original. Maybe it's unfair of me to make comparisons since part of the charm of the original may be linked to it being unreleased and rare and the mystery around it. But this IS a remake so I think comparisons are inevitable.

It's not like the icepick in the ear of 1999 the new master ill but to me it falls into the same category of things that should never be tinkered with or rerecorded. BUT, like I said, I think he probably wanted to give us this because there has been such a buzz about it recently on the org- at least there's comfort in knowing he's paying attention!

And wouldn't it be awesome if on the lotusflow3r site he put the original up for download.. wouldn't it? Wouldn't it Prince??? biggrin


yeah, this should have been posted on LF.com, granted.

and yeah, this doesn't capture the lightning in a bottle energy of the original recording, granted.

but for what it is, i think it's fun. if i listen to it with the mindset of, "this is something prince and his band cranked out and gave the montreux site to geek out the fans, it's just a bauble for the ears," then i can get into it.

plus, it always gives me just a crumb of hope when he does something...ANYthing...that acknowledges the past like this.

i'm not making a big deal out of it. it could be better, and of course it's been done better. but since it is what it is, i think it's more fun than if i hadn't heard it at all.

if that makes sense. confuse
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Reply #123 posted 07/15/09 8:23am

DreZone

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The 1986 of version definitely apt for its time, even ahead of it and definitely has the W&L touch without a doubt.

I admit, on the new version I do miss W&L's vocals being replaced with flutes and guitars, but it is a perfect example of taking a song and presenting it to another generation...

Unlike Funksterrs duly noted regurgitated disasters (1999 anyone?), this is what it is - it's a promotional throwaway - but a DAMN GOOD one at that.

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Reply #124 posted 07/15/09 8:25am

luluQueen

OMFG Prince DO something with that HAIR
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Reply #125 posted 07/15/09 8:29am

laurarichardso
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"you don't get the chemistry that you hear on the original"

Maybe you meant to say that in your post but you did not say that.
This versions chemistry is fine as this is the Jazz Fest version not the original.

Once again live in the present if you did not know who played on the orignal may guess is you would not care about the chemistry of the players.

Some of you are so out of it you don't even realize how much the boots, vault and original players really don't matter to the average person whom I assume might comprise the 7,000 or so people who brough tickets to this show.

He is doing the jazz thing now so deal with it or move on.
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OldFriends4Sale said:

Living in the past, I'm living in 2009,
your attitude needs adjustment, don't read crap into my post that isn't there

I'm not saying those people should have been on this recording, and that was just a list of the people who did create that piece with Prince
If I didn't add those peoples names you probably would not have said a damn thing

All the fuck I said was you don't get the chemistry that you hear on the original.




laurarichardson said:

"
is missing:Eric Leeds, Wendy, Sheila E, Lisa, Atlanta and a few others... "

So according to you if others are playing on this track they can't be friends of Prince?

eek
Some of you need to get out of the past that you are living in sad

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[Edited 7/15/09 7:47am]
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Reply #126 posted 07/15/09 8:35am

Imago

tricky99 said:

contrapposto said:

I can't believe I am going to say this but I really don't like it. neutral

On one hand I really appreciate the sentiment and think it's sweet of prince to put this out there knowing that there are purple geeks like me that have hoped this song (and many other unreleased gems) would one day be released.

On the other hand the rerecording of this is light years away from the original (obv just my opinion) and the moment I finished listening my brain was blah... it's just so anticlimactic. Ya know what, it actually made me sad (doesn't take much lately, lol). There was absolutely NO magic in this version- the previous had such a vivid life of it's own and always gave me that feeling you get when you fall in love with a song for the first time. That intangible something that made me get so involved in the prince world waaaay back when I first heard the original. Maybe it's unfair of me to make comparisons since part of the charm of the original may be linked to it being unreleased and rare and the mystery around it. But this IS a remake so I think comparisons are inevitable.

It's not like the icepick in the ear of 1999 the new master ill but to me it falls into the same category of things that should never be tinkered with or rerecorded. BUT, like I said, I think he probably wanted to give us this because there has been such a buzz about it recently on the org- at least there's comfort in knowing he's paying attention!

And wouldn't it be awesome if on the lotusflow3r site he put the original up for download.. wouldn't it? Wouldn't it Prince??? biggrin



There isn't any original one. Since this was unreleased and we have only heard it before because some one STOLE it from prince. What we heard maybe version 7 for all we know. Some of u act as if the music belongs to u when it prince's creation and he has the freedom to make a million different versions of it and release none of them if he so desires.

U act like a bunch of ungrateful children. Be happy u have 2 versions. And prince is free to release music where and how he wants. He never said every sound and message from him would be funneled thru the website. Like I said every move Prince makes will be critized no matter what.

Whether it was legal, illegal, his, ours, or belonged to Adolph Hitler isn't even remotely relevant to what contraposto is trying to say about the song.


Version "A" is superior to the one that is posted on that link now, regardless of the legality of either version.


I mean, shit--ecstacy is illegal and we all know it's better than aspirin. rolleyes
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Reply #127 posted 07/15/09 8:36am

Imago

Anxiety said:

contrapposto said:

I can't believe I am going to say this but I really don't like it. neutral

On one hand I really appreciate the sentiment and think it's sweet of prince to put this out there knowing that there are purple geeks like me that have hoped this song (and many other unreleased gems) would one day be released.

On the other hand the rerecording of this is light years away from the original (obv just my opinion) and the moment I finished listening my brain was blah... it's just so anticlimactic. Ya know what, it actually made me sad (doesn't take much lately, lol). There was absolutely NO magic in this version- the previous had such a vivid life of it's own and always gave me that feeling you get when you fall in love with a song for the first time. That intangible something that made me get so involved in the prince world waaaay back when I first heard the original. Maybe it's unfair of me to make comparisons since part of the charm of the original may be linked to it being unreleased and rare and the mystery around it. But this IS a remake so I think comparisons are inevitable.

It's not like the icepick in the ear of 1999 the new master ill but to me it falls into the same category of things that should never be tinkered with or rerecorded. BUT, like I said, I think he probably wanted to give us this because there has been such a buzz about it recently on the org- at least there's comfort in knowing he's paying attention!

And wouldn't it be awesome if on the lotusflow3r site he put the original up for download.. wouldn't it? Wouldn't it Prince??? biggrin


yeah, this should have been posted on LF.com, granted.

and yeah, this doesn't capture the lightning in a bottle energy of the original recording, granted.

but for what it is, i think it's fun. if i listen to it with the mindset of, "this is something prince and his band cranked out and gave the montreux site to geek out the fans, it's just a bauble for the ears," then i can get into it.

plus, it always gives me just a crumb of hope when he does something...ANYthing...that acknowledges the past like this.

i'm not making a big deal out of it. it could be better, and of course it's been done better. but since it is what it is, i think it's more fun than if i hadn't heard it at all.

if that makes sense. confuse

contraposto is right. You are wrong.
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Reply #128 posted 07/15/09 8:38am

contrapposto

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tricky99 said:

contrapposto said:

I can't believe I am going to say this but I really don't like it. neutral

On one hand I really appreciate the sentiment and think it's sweet of prince to put this out there knowing that there are purple geeks like me that have hoped this song (and many other unreleased gems) would one day be released.

On the other hand the rerecording of this is light years away from the original (obv just my opinion) and the moment I finished listening my brain was blah... it's just so anticlimactic. Ya know what, it actually made me sad (doesn't take much lately, lol). There was absolutely NO magic in this version- the previous had such a vivid life of it's own and always gave me that feeling you get when you fall in love with a song for the first time. That intangible something that made me get so involved in the prince world waaaay back when I first heard the original. Maybe it's unfair of me to make comparisons since part of the charm of the original may be linked to it being unreleased and rare and the mystery around it. But this IS a remake so I think comparisons are inevitable.

It's not like the icepick in the ear of 1999 the new master ill but to me it falls into the same category of things that should never be tinkered with or rerecorded. BUT, like I said, I think he probably wanted to give us this because there has been such a buzz about it recently on the org- at least there's comfort in knowing he's paying attention!

And wouldn't it be awesome if on the lotusflow3r site he put the original up for download.. wouldn't it? Wouldn't it Prince??? biggrin



There isn't any original one. Since this was unreleased and we have only heard it before because some one STOLE it from prince. What we heard maybe version 7 for all we know. Some of u act as if the music belongs to u when it prince's creation and he has the freedom to make a million different versions of it and release none of them if he so desires.

U act like a bunch of ungrateful children. Be happy u have 2 versions. And prince is free to release music where and how he wants. He never said every sound and message from him would be funneled thru the website. Like I said every move Prince makes will be critized no matter what.


Well, your focus on my use of the word "original" isn't really the point here but if it makes you feel better, I agree with you- there may be seven versions already. Rather than say original I should have said "the previously circulating version that most fans are familiar with that was stolen from him years ago."
all better? comfort

I'm also pretty sure I stated how I appreciated the sentiment, and that I thought it was great that he has been paying attention to some of the love for that song on here, so I do not want to appear ungrateful.

I can't help how I feel (nonplussed) when I hear this- it's only my opinion. shrug But I really do applaud him for the effort, and I mean that sincerely.
[Edited 7/15/09 8:39am]
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Reply #129 posted 07/15/09 8:39am

Imago

contrapposto said:

tricky99 said:




There isn't any original one. Since this was unreleased and we have only heard it before because some one STOLE it from prince. What we heard maybe version 7 for all we know. Some of u act as if the music belongs to u when it prince's creation and he has the freedom to make a million different versions of it and release none of them if he so desires.

U act like a bunch of ungrateful children. Be happy u have 2 versions. And prince is free to release music where and how he wants. He never said every sound and message from him would be funneled thru the website. Like I said every move Prince makes will be critized no matter what.


Well, your focus on my use of the word "original" isn't really the point here but if it makes you feel better, I agree with you- there may be seven versions already. Rather than say original I should have said "the previously circulating version that most fans are familiar with that was stolen from him years ago."
all better? comfort

I'm also pretty sure I stated how I appreciated the sentiment, and that I thought it was great that he has been paying attention to some of the love for that song on here, so I do not want to appear ungrateful.

I can't help how I feel (nonplussed) when I hear this- it's only my opinion. shrug But I really do applaud him for the effort, and I mean that sincerely.
[Edited 7/15/09 8:39am]


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Reply #130 posted 07/15/09 8:42am

tinaz

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I just dont like it... I have never understood the big deal about this song?? I dont hate it but its probably one I would skip over.... What is it about this song so many people like?
~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~
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Reply #131 posted 07/15/09 8:42am

contrapposto

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Anxiety said:



if that makes sense. confuse


Nope, not really! lol





j/k. wink
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Reply #132 posted 07/15/09 8:43am

IstenSzek

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DreZone said:

The 1986 of version definitely apt for its time, even ahead of it and definitely has the W&L touch without a doubt.

I admit, on the new version I do miss W&L's vocals being replaced with flutes and guitars, but it is a perfect example of taking a song and presenting it to another generation...

Unlike Funksterrs duly noted regurgitated disasters (1999 anyone?), this is what it is - it's a promotional throwaway - but a DAMN GOOD one at that.

'dre


but what exactly does this present to another generation that the old version
wouldn't if it were released now instead?

this new version is too loose and 'empty' imo. i know it's a reworking and it
is a promo for a jazz festival. fine, fine.

but people are also saying "this is the jazz promo version" falloff get out
of here. this is THE version he released. end of story.

so we should take it as it is, i guess. and i'm glad he released anything at
all right now.

but i also fail to see why it's not unanimously accepted that this new cut is
nowhere near the original.

i wish he would just leave his old material as good and perfect as it was and
release it just like that. just polish the sound up, nothing else. and why is
he releasing a song that wendy and lisa contributed to, on his own once more?

he's got tons of tunes and once again, like with crystal ball, he erases them
from the new version and no doubt doesn't pay them a penny. just seems strange
to me now that he's brushing shoulders with them again. seems like whenever he
has a good thing going, he deliberately has to fuck it up again.

do i even need to mention the website in regards to this song? ouch. another
slap in the face. thanks again prince.

i'm glad you released this track, and contrary to what you guys may think if
you read this post, i am pleased with it and i enjoy it. no doubt i will be
playing this many years from now because it's the type of track i love.

still, the original is much better, and this one should have been released on
his own website too.

should have would have could have. i know. why do i even care? lol i'll just
go listen to the track again and moan to myself whenever i hear that guitar in
the place where wendy and lisa's truly astounding vocal harmony used to be.

oh well.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #133 posted 07/15/09 8:44am

Anxiety

Imago said:


contraposto is right. You are wrong.


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Reply #134 posted 07/15/09 8:45am

Graycap23

Some of u folks will complain about anything.
U wake up, get a new arrangement of a song and a lot of u just complain about it.

Why can't u just enjoy the track?
If u don't like it, fine.....but complain?
I don't get it.
[Edited 7/15/09 8:50am]
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Reply #135 posted 07/15/09 8:47am

NpgSoldier

Am I the only idiot who likes both versions?
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Reply #136 posted 07/15/09 8:49am

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

Some of u folks will complain about anything.
U wake up, get a new arrangement of a song and a lot of u just compliain about it.

Why can't u just enjoy the track?
If u don't like it, fine.....but complain?
I don't get it.


well, if a person doesn't like it and they merely state their opinion, it's not really complaining. not that there hasn't been complaining on this thread, but there have also been people who just happen not to like it and have simply said as much. which is no crime. doesn't make me like the track any more or less. my opinion is still mine, as i'm sure yours is still yours. shrug
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Reply #137 posted 07/15/09 8:50am

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ernestsewell said:

http://www.montreuxjazz.com/?lang=en&cat=news&subcat=news&page=79

Change the "de" after "lang=" to "en" and it's in English.

Thanks for THIS info!!
Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #138 posted 07/15/09 8:51am

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Another vote for "not as good as the original, but pretty cool nonetheless".
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Reply #139 posted 07/15/09 8:51am

coolcat

Is this "Welcome to the rat race" ?

I really like it. Who is playing keyboards?
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Reply #140 posted 07/15/09 8:51am

IstenSzek

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Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:

Some of u folks will complain about anything.
U wake up, get a new arrangement of a song and a lot of u just compliain about it.

Why can't u just enjoy the track?
If u don't like it, fine.....but complain?
I don't get it.


well, if a person doesn't like it and they merely state their opinion, it's not really complaining. not that there hasn't been complaining on this thread, but there have also been people who just happen not to like it and have simply said as much. which is no crime. doesn't make me like the track any more or less. my opinion is still mine, as i'm sure yours is still yours. shrug


and here i was, hoping my complaining would influence everyone's opinion

pout
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Reply #141 posted 07/15/09 8:52am

Zannaloaf

errant said:

why does every round of cease & desist always come with a kick ass tune?


bastard mad


lol. Trying to make up for his assHOLYness.
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Reply #142 posted 07/15/09 8:53am

Zannaloaf

ernestsewell said:

Not surprising he cut out:
Every time U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race


that's cause he'd be referring to his own recent behaviour.
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Reply #143 posted 07/15/09 8:54am

KCOOLMUZIQ

This reminds me of seeing him at Club Nokia Per4ming this track. It was a special nite & experience. He pulled out some rare gems that nite . One of my Fav all time intimate shows of him live. Locked in my mind 4ever.....[b]
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #144 posted 07/15/09 8:55am

Zannaloaf

garganta said:

KeithyT said:


not really, we are just being light-hearted biggrin



oh, Ok...

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go look on FaceBook...
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Reply #145 posted 07/15/09 8:57am

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ernestsewell said:

Not surprising he cut out:
Every time U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race



Well, he could have/should have replaced "motherfucker" with "sucker" or something like that, but what do I know.Butchering a couple of lines probably makes more sense. wink
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #146 posted 07/15/09 8:57am

Anxiety

IstenSzek said:

Anxiety said:



well, if a person doesn't like it and they merely state their opinion, it's not really complaining. not that there hasn't been complaining on this thread, but there have also been people who just happen not to like it and have simply said as much. which is no crime. doesn't make me like the track any more or less. my opinion is still mine, as i'm sure yours is still yours. shrug


and here i was, hoping my complaining would influence everyone's opinion

pout


razz
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Reply #147 posted 07/15/09 9:06am

OldFriends4Sal
e

I did say it, it you read my post with your attitude you would get it,
I was comparing songs
And I didn't say I didn't like it (again if you read my post) I did like it I said I liked it for a remix and I liked it for a live performance at the Jazz fest

I know mostly who played on the original: Eric Leeds also talked about it in an interview: Eric Sheila Lisa Wendy, Atlanta Levi Susannah

No your out of it, to be a Prince fan and not realize how much bands and band members matter to Prince music, there are always discussion on it
Your nuts

Yeah he's doing the show, I'm happy, no one is complaining about that or his current band.

This whole discussion is about the remix of a classic song

THAT'S IT, U ARE MAKING IT MORE THAN THAT. SHUT THE HELL UP AND LET PEOPLE DISCUSS WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT
MACADAMIAN


laurarichardson said:

"you don't get the chemistry that you hear on the original"

Maybe you meant to say that in your post but you did not say that.
This versions chemistry is fine as this is the Jazz Fest version not the original.

Once again live in the present if you did not know who played on the orignal may guess is you would not care about the chemistry of the players.

Some of you are so out of it you don't even realize how much the boots, vault and original players really don't matter to the average person whom I assume might comprise the 7,000 or so people who brough tickets to this show.

He is doing the jazz thing now so deal with it or move on.
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OldFriends4Sale said:

Living in the past, I'm living in 2009,
your attitude needs adjustment, don't read crap into my post that isn't there

I'm not saying those people should have been on this recording, and that was just a list of the people who did create that piece with Prince
If I didn't add those peoples names you probably would not have said a damn thing

All the fuck I said was you don't get the chemistry that you hear on the original.





[Edited 7/15/09 7:47am]
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Reply #148 posted 07/15/09 9:06am

Zannaloaf

Anxiety said:

IstenSzek said:



and here i was, hoping my complaining would influence everyone's opinion

pout


razz


I had not heard the original. I like the "live" ish feel of this. He is interacting with his players seemingly better than most of what I heard on the last 3 cd disaster.
I sought out the original. Whole different thing.
Ones a lighter edged airier version, the other definitely more bite.
SO I like them both. Dunno that either would be in my top rotation. But that's cool.
I suppose W&Ls background vocals would pretty much be pulled on ANYthing these days. rolleyes
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Reply #149 posted 07/15/09 9:08am

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music
12/05/2011guitar
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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