He should definitely be higher than Nirvana? and Aretha lovely though she is not above P

SoulAlive said:

The minute you put a price tag on it, and mass produce it for sale, it's a commodity. That sucks, but that's the way it is. Having said that, sales don't really matter in the GRAND scheme of things, but in a Catch-22 situation sales=fame=sales.

Nobody ever argues that Thriller is better than Purple Rain. I've never once seen that argument made -- all I've heard is how many copies of Thriller have sold, and how great the videos are, how he revolutionized MTV, etc.

LittleNicci said:

It boggles my mind how Nirvana is rated so highly. They're rated more for their impact on the music scene than their music specifically.

Nirvana is credited with kicking hair metal bands off radio and off of MTV - and I thank them for that! Most notably Poison and Warrant - they HAD to go!

If we're talking greatest SINGLE person as musical talent in the fields of rock, pop, R&B, etc then I'd have to say I can't think of anyone with as much universal talent and fearlessness.

One of my last posts got me thinking about Thriller vs. Purple Rain, so I went through and put together this comparison, just so we could compare the actual music and not the sales figures, music videos, or hype. I'm going to compare what I consider "matched" songs wherever possible.


• Let's Go Crazy vs. Beat It (perfect matchup)
• Take Me With U vs. The Girl Is Mine (perfect matchup - duets)
• The Beautiful Ones vs. Baby Be Mine (good matchup)
• Computer Blue - Human Nature (bad matchup)
• Darling Nikki - The Lady In My Life (bad matchup)
• When Doves Cry vs. Billie Jean (perfect matchup IMO)
• I Would Die For You vs. P.Y.T. (perfect matchup IMO)
• Baby, I'm A Star vs. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (good matchup)
• Purple Rain vs. Thriller (perfect matchup - epic title tracks)


So that's it. 9 songs vs. 9 songs. Thriller doesn't hold up as well as Purple Rain after 25+ years.

No, but he used to be from 1978-1984.

Didn't you know that Prince died on the cross, or should I say the stauros, for the sins of these folks over in this section?



Oh, now I'd have to tell them to their face that they are wrong about that one. But I would give them some credit though, at least she's better than shit hop. Hell, even Shitney Houston is better than shit hop.
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vainandy said:

So who took his place?

Se7en said:

Thriller is better than Purple Rain. Ignoring the fact that MJ didn't write all the songs and Prince wrote all his it's the better album.

Billie Jean
Beat It
Wanna be starting something
Human Nature

are better overall than the best four songs on Purple Rain.

Is it fun to be so wrong?

curioso said:

Oh lawrd.....

curioso said:

Go and read Rolling Stone's Dec 1989 issue where in the 100 Greatest Albums of the 80's they state that the first 4 songs off of Purple Rain is what most artists dream to do in an entire career.

Purple Rain is #2 .Thriller is #3

Both albums are great but why did the world go gaga so quick after Thriller when Prince hit with Purple Rain ????

curioso said:

Are you trying to start some shit or something with this? This is unbelievable.

muleFunk said:

It's just their opnion. They're not the final authority on music. They chose Thriller as 20'th best album ahead of Purple Rain, so what?.

If you comapre the albums ignoring who wrote how much Thriller is better.
When comparing Prince fans like to bring up the fact MJ didn't write all the songs.
Doesn't mean the album is not better.


The best song on thriller is generally considered to be Billie Jean and the best on Purple Rain When Doved Cry.

Billie Jean is better.

The whole album is better musically.
This is a Prince site obviously there is bias.

Does it matter? Wow!


What's the criteria of being the "best"?

rainbowchild said:

I guess it really doesn't matter - it's the music that counts and I'm blessed to have both artists' work in my collection.

curioso said:[quote]If you comapre the albums ignoring who wrote how much Thriller is better.
When comparing Prince fans like to bring up the fact MJ didn't write all the songs.
Doesn't mean the album is not better.


The best song on thriller is generally considered to be Billie Jean and the best on Purple Rain When Doved Cry.

Billie Jean is better.

The whole album is better musically.
This is a Prince site obviously there is bias.[/quot

So who appointed you the ultimate athority on music? Why are you even on this site? You don't come across as much of a fan but as an instigator. I don't understand why you feel the need to make statements without any proof but based on what you feel. We are not bias on this site but we willl attack if you come up in here trying to make allegations with nothing to back it up.

Se7en said:

Same here! They both rock!

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curioso said:

You haven't said anything but the truth candy2277. I'm glad someone else feels the way I do.

Nobody. But if shit hop had not taken over and music as a whole had not turned to bullshit, somebody would have eventually overthrown him.

he is one of the best recording artist out of many IMHO. But not the best best
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toots said:

What up Toots....

If P isn't the 'best best', as you quoted above, it leads one to believe that you feel there is such an artist. A 'best best'.

If so, who is it, really, I'd like to hear.

Must be someone who after you hear their recording or see them in concert, you exclaim. 'now if only Prince could get down like THIS, he'd be the BEST BEST'.

C'mon, spill the beans. Who is your 'best best'?

free0001 said:

Dude chill its called listening to a variety of music. Which is what I happen to do and belong to other artist music sites as well. My music ranges from classical to metal and everything in between.

You arent going to change my mind so move on. I have made my decision respect it.

toots said:

Change your mind? Human Beings, confronted with percived adversity, typically strengthen their foothold on the contrarian position. In other words, you reacted to my reply with a fervor that crystallized your hard stance; that Prince 'is not the best of the best'. I never expected you to come back with, 'I think Prince just might be the BOB'.

In this mind, my musical favorite stands highly above his peer group. Apparently unlike you, I do have a favorite artist and I'm not too shy to explain the 'why' of the matter. It doesn't make P the 'best of all time', because the notion of the GOAT is somewhat immature.

Free0001

curioso said:

I'm confused about what the question is. Is it who's the best performer? The best musical artist? The best musician? Or the best recording artist? Because the latter is too open to opinion unless one based it on sheer popularity.

I ask because if who wrote and put what together doesn't matter then you're comparing apples and oranges, because Prince very clearly doesn't like others to produce. And his managers haven't really "managed" him in any traditional sense of the word. But, if Prince DID, then who knows how lop-sided the question would be.

free0001 said:

huh

Seriously dude YOU asked me to explain why remember? Re-read what you wrote. Now let's move on cause this is what your doing

curioso said:

I am not talking about the issue that came out in the 1990's. I am talking about Dec. 1989. Shit was still fresh then.

curioso said:

'When Doves Cry' is the best song on either album. Then 'Billie Jean.' After that, it's too hard for me. But 1 and 2 are easy.

The Bottom two would easy also. 'Take Me With U' and 'P.Y.T.
In from of them would be 'Baby Be Mine.' That's the top two and bottom three. The easy ones.
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Se7en said:

I like this alot.I never saw it this way.I have been listen 2 Thriller this past 2 weeks.It is a great lp,but it is VERY POP.There is no Heart or drive Like PR.Thanks for the matchups I will save them.