^^^^^

yeah mike was the best...

and it's horrible that he had 2 leave for me 2 realize that...

I still think prince is the most musical artist in the world...
And the most talented...

There is just something about mike

mzspongebob said:

Again, just because Micheal Jackson is in the Guinness Book of World Records that doesn't make him a better artist.

I'm not trying to devalue his importance, but Record Sales and money aren't the ONLY thing that makes an artist great.

Michael was so obsessed with topping himself and topping Thriller that his artistic work suffered greatly because of it.

nyse said:

ya rite people just cant seem to understand that

Paris9748430 said:

ya i know record sales dont mean anything but 2 me Michael is the "best" we will see in our lifetime because his music touched and reached so many people who cares if u can play 100 instruments if your music dont mean sh*t..not saying that about prince but im just saying in general u know i think being a good artist is about more than playing instruments but its my opinion i just grew up on Michael jackson i just found out prince a few years ago his music just dont give me the same feel Michaels does and thats just the way it is for me

paris97 amd mzspongebob

Both have some great arguments...
All artists seem to make some questional desicions...

Growing up as a child
Prince was the coolest, he had the edgy music the girls and the image
But michael was an inspiration...
Micheal touched the whole world...no other artist ever did that...or will

but

the beatles
elvis
and
ellington
also had a huge inpact

nyse said:

I really do hate these Prince vs MJ arguments. Especially in 2009. Especially since one of the men in the supposed "rivalry" is dead.

^^^

yeah ur right...but When I think of the best they are the only 2 that
realy come to mind....

mzspongebob said:

Can you read? Your post and the first line of my post is saying the same damn thing. The people who supported him all along were his die hard fans. A lot of people were afraid to say they were fans because of the child molestation charges, now its these same people who are rushing out to buy cds. I don't know why you are attacking me. My posts on this subject have been kind to MJ versus some people who have outrighly put him down. Why don't you reply back to them?

The Immortals: The Fifty Greatest Artists Of All Time!



1) The Beatles

2) Bob Dylan

3) Elvis Presley

4) The Rolling Stones

5) Chuck Berry

6) Jimi Hendrix

7) James Brown

8) Little Richard

9) Aretha Franklin

10) Ray Charles

11) Bob Marley

12) The Beach Boys

13) Buddy Holly

14) Led Zeppelin

15) Stevie Wonder

16) Sam Cooke

17) Muddy Watters

18) Marvin Gaye

19) The Velvet Underground

20) Bo Diddley

21) Otis Redding

22) U2

23) Bruce Springsteen wne

24) Jerry Lee Lewis

25) Fats Domino

26) The Ramones

27) Nirvana

28) Prince

29) The Who

30) The Clash

31) Johnny Cash

32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles

33) The Everly Brothers

34) Neil Young

35) Michael Jackson

36) Madonna

37) Roy Orbison

38) John Lennon

39) David Bowie

40) Simon and Garfunkel

41) The Doors

42) Van Morrison

43) Sly and the Family Stone

44) Public Enemy

45) The Byrds

46) Janis Joplin

47) Patti Smith

48) Run-DMC

49) Elton John

50) The Band

[From Issue 946 - April 15, 2004]


Source:
http://www.rollingstone.c...irst_fifty
[Edited 7/9/09 1:35am]
[Edited 7/9/09 1:36am]

I think that Rolling Stone list is bullshyt.

To answer the question: I wouldn't say anyone is the best of all time, but for me, Prince is the best entertainer of his time. Of all the concerts I've seen, no one tops him. And I've seen MJ three times at his peak--the "Bad" concerts and was surprised at how anti-climatic it felt to finally see him in person. The greatest part of the show was simply seeing this living legend right in front of me, sweating on me as he flew over the crowd in a crane. He moved like liquid, but he did the same steps over and over again. He didn't appear to be singing live in parts and there was not a lot of interaction with the crowd. Maybe it was because I saw his three shows back to back to back, but somehow it felt a little canned. By the third show? I was pretty bored.

But I soaked it all in and enjoyed the spectacle of it all. It was like being able to shake the President's hand or something. I didn't get a glimpse inside his personality or have any meaningful exchange or anything, but I got my picture to show I was there, damn it!! I saw him!! Ya know?

Then I won tickets to see Prince's "Lovesexy" concert. I almost felt like, why bother? Prince was cool, sexy etc., but "Purple Rain" had come and gone and although I still liked Prince, I felt I had seen the biggest star in the universe already (I was around 15 or so, ok?). Prince felt small by comparison. But, I went anyway and.....Holy snap! The difference was like night and day. Prince was raw, funny, and had a slightly mischievous or dangerous air about him. His show felt organic, spiritual, spontaneous. It was just a richer and more satisfying concert experience for me. I had to give it up and I didn't want to. And, I've since seen Prince 6 other times since then and I think he's gotten better with age.

I think of songs like "Adore" and "Slow Love" "Purple Rain" "The Beautiful Ones".."If I Was Your Girlfriend"..jeez...so much passion and grit....personality. I believe Prince when he sings about God, love, sex, etc. so much so that I almost get embarrassed listening to him sometimes. He's really opposite of MJ in this way and in almost every other aspect. Apples and oranges. In terms of songwriting ability and musicianship, I only see Stevie as his peer. But something about Stevie doesn't excite and engage like Prince, though.

People will call Michael Jackson the "greatest entertainer in the history of the galaxy". He'll loom even larger in death than he did in life, I'm sure. And that's fine. He has the numbers, the stature, the popularity and the tragedy...He was one of the best dancers to ever grace the stage and was one of the most influential artist in the realm of video, especially. So, I am fine with the world crowning Michael King. But, Prince will forever be that dude for me--I learned this the hard way. lol

Yeah, just because Rolling stone made a list, does not make it true. Plus everybody knows how prejudice and racist they have been throughout the years, although that's gotten a 'little' better.

yes he is to me.....hes the best...no matter what u say...

hes a pure legend of all artist and a genius ... and a real icon too...
theres no one like prince....

free0001 said:

LMAO! Okay....I am so digging the whole "Bravomisio" word.
And the above post. Tis true. I am digging that as well.

Yes, Yep, Aha,Eye Wewe, Quin Si,Doch, Ja, Haan, Yan

The fact that people are taking this thread seriously is mind boggling!

We are talking about music. Music is an art form; and art is completely subjective. There is no such thing as an objective best.

One could be forgiven for thinking this is a thread about sport!

I think people cheering for Prince, MJ etc... to be the best, says more about those people than it does the artists they are cheering for.

Take a deep breath, go away and listen to YOUR favourite (best) artist, and let others listen to theirs.

It may grind people's gears that there are those that think that Justin Timberlake might be better than MJ, for example. Well, get over it! To them that's right, to you it may not be. The truth is, neither of you are right or wrong.

and I don't believe anyone compares.

That Rolling Stone list is pretty impressive. Every music collection should have those . . .

Dayclear said:

um.... 6 of their top 10 are black, and 12 of their top 20 are black. how are they prejudiced?

It wasn't Rolling Stone inventing the list out of thin air. It was compiled by "a panel of fifty-five top musicians, historians, industry executives and critics"... i.e. people who know and understand music and the relative importance of various musicians throughout rock history.

Without a doubt - its a no brainer question really

LittleNicci said:

Yeah, agree, people with the illusion that prince is the greatest ever has no brain?

Prince is GREAT, period! had a major impact on music and pop culture.
But what qualifies one to be G.O.A.T?

I would think, the ability to connect with everyone on the planet and have us ALL pay attention when your stuff drops!
doesnt matter how many gazillion instruments u master...or how fashonable u are. When u can use the whatever u r gifted at and make a global impact and make music that EVERYONE can relate to ...in my opinion thats greatness, there r people out there who probly more talented tham MJ in many areas, but did they use those talents to impact the world an a massive scale/ NO! so why would they get the praises for NOT utilizing theire full potential? Greatness I think should be recognized by the impact one makes...Prince may have had 15mins of that with few songs from purple Rain...had the world singing his verses...MJ on the other hand, he made the world stop and pay attention everytime he drops somthing...and he makes QUALITY products, whether music , videos, concert. prince make some quality stuff too...MJ spends whatever it takes to make his stuff appealing and visually brilliant! prince at times makes us wonder ,who he is making music for ,himself or the public...some lame cheap ass videos..hurried leftover thrown on albums as fillers vs MJ trillers.
Real music should captivate ALL! Prince's version of ""Real music" doesnt have the global impact MJ's stuff has...now why would one see it fit to say he is the greatest ever? he is simply the MOST TALENTED EVER! but with all that talent he never really used his full potential to achieve what MJ achieved...Prince IS by far more rounded and overall a better musician than MJ...but MJ used the little talent he has and made a global impact Prince could only dream of...WHY? MJ does his stuff for fans and global appeal..prince makes music for HIS personal taste and some of us just happens to enjoy (sometimes).
[Edited 7/9/09 8:01am]MJ aims for maximum global impact ..Prince's mentallity is like "I'm great, if you dont like my shit ,you just didnt get it"
[Edited 7/9/09 8:21am]

3232 said:

Based on that logic....Osama Bin Laden wins.....

Graycap23 said:

my mistake, MJ in close 2nd then

skywalker said:

Your posts are fantastic, totally agree.

jonylawson said:

absolute truth.

free0001 said:

and i agree and like it!

nyse said:

Fantastic post. Nice way of looking at it.

Agreed.

3232 said:

The reason why I came at you like that is because you came across like you were speaking in general terms as if you spoke for everyone when you don't. I laughed when you tried to call me arrogant for saying my initial piece because I gave an opinion which is something you didn't do which made you sound arrogant. This wouldn't have happened if you did that, so don't mix me up with your crap. Now THAT's the truth.

Volitan11 said:

LMAO

WTF!?

best guitarist...4 my ears.....yes
best performer....it's NOT even close
best dancer...who cares, it has NOTHING 2 do with making music
best vocalist...Range? Yes, diversity? Yesbest song writer...Yes
best composer...Yes

I'll ADD:
best producer.....look at the output
best artist playing multiple instruments....NOT even close
best band leader.....NOT even close
best LIVE performer.....NOT even close
Most output.....is it close?
Best control of his own career.....Yes