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Reply #90 posted 07/05/09 10:57am

3232

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There r still plenty of places to get rare and officially released Prince material! Long live the Net!

Klick


True...plug one hole..5 more pops up : )
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Reply #91 posted 07/05/09 11:08am

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3232 said:

Can someone enlighten the rest of us?
In what way does a baby dancing to the song "lets go crazy' being played in his mammas kitchen, affect prince's image/royalties/ music/ pocket/ ego, or whatever the fuck it is he his trying to protect?
The next person who interviews him should throw that question at him...I would be glued to the t.v for his brilliant answer to that one.


In order for Prince (or anyone) to keep your copyright, you must keep it out of the public domain. Meaning that in proper use- "not licensed" use most be stopped. If you let anyone use your music/image-then you are in danger of losing your copyright/trademark forever. Because if it becomes public domain (which means any one can use it). And most importantly you can not receive monetary damages if you let it become public domain. So, if Prince lets someone use his music on youtube and does nothing, the store down the street that use's the same song in their radio add-may not be liable for damages.
99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #92 posted 07/05/09 11:20am

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DesireeNevermind said:

it WAS PRINCE. folks i know got their accounts closed over the shit. some people left afterwards because it just got to be too difficult to enjoy anything prince related. what the purple dude wit stick up his ass fails to realize is that no one was making money off of these vidz. in fact, new fans were made because of the vidz. people were wanting to go out and buy his old music because of what they saw on imeem and wanted to buy his latest release even more.

this was about fans who loved the music and the footage sharing it with others, this was not about profiting off of his hard work which is how his dumb ass (i luvs u princey but U R an idiot) perceives it. I mean he could have put all that stuff on lotusflow3r but does he? hell nah. you paid 70 plus bucks for a whack ass website that is not as much fun as an iphone.

folks who originally leaked the shit worked for him so that goes to show how much respect he garners from his inner circle. the vidz will resurface and so will the music, he can't stop it. he will waist money trying too.

p.s.
I love you Prince but I have more respect for MJ right now and he's been dead for 10 days.



Oh GROW UP WHY DON"T U...It's not the end of the world. U woke up this morning, It's a great day. Geeez.



LOVE IT!!! yes
LIVE4LUV
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Reply #93 posted 07/05/09 11:21am

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DesireeNevermind said:

3232 said:


agree 100%...aint nothing "genius" bout this behavior...all the talk bout Prince vs MJ..this is where I admire MJ over Prince..he is just genuine and loyal to his fans...they put bread on his table..I cant stand prince's ego..makes me sick some time.



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As an artist his talent cannot be measured, but as a man and even a buisness man, he sucks sometimes. We talk straight about the ones we love so all them purple koolaid drinkers can kiss my luscious round ass.



XOXOXO Purple kookaid is THE BEST!!!
LIVE4LUV
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Reply #94 posted 07/05/09 11:24am

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i turned a lot of my non-Prince fans onto some of his stuff by posting imeem videos on facebook. a few of them even went out and bought LotusFlow3r.

Prince would cut off his nose to spite his face.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #95 posted 07/05/09 11:42am

ludwig

3232 said:

peterv said:

Changing the subject a little...

Can someone post the names of some the "so called" never-before-seen stuff that was on there. You got me curious...

Thanks in advance.

just doing from memory...& these are just videos and concerts..I never even checked out the music

Pheromone
The full vid for fury (with Miss Panama)
Honky tonk woman( video)
the 3 concerts 1 night was that in L.A?
10min version of cream video.
Bambi tokyo live ( video)
The whole tokyo concert
Nude tour- an entire concert.
Face down
I wanna melt with u
Continental
The future(snl) badass!
3 different versions of the "get off" video.
Superbowl rehearsal, 12 mins of great guitar!
Redheaded step child
Papa
Aftershow in cafe de paris
Dr. feelgood -cover of motley crue,live


I have seen all of that stuff before. Well I'm a hardore fan for 22 years, ...

But you got 1 title wrong. He never performed "The Future" on SNL, you probably meant "Electric Chair".
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Reply #96 posted 07/05/09 11:51am

3232

kewlschool said:

3232 said:

Can someone enlighten the rest of us?
In what way does a baby dancing to the song "lets go crazy' being played in his mammas kitchen, affect prince's image/royalties/ music/ pocket/ ego, or whatever the fuck it is he his trying to protect?
The next person who interviews him should throw that question at him...I would be glued to the t.v for his brilliant answer to that one.


In order for Prince (or anyone) to keep your copyright, you must keep it out of the public domain. Meaning that in proper use- "not licensed" use most be stopped. If you let anyone use your music/image-then you are in danger of losing your copyright/trademark forever. Because if it becomes public domain (which means any one can use it). And most importantly you can not receive monetary damages if you let it become public domain. So, if Prince lets someone use his music on youtube and does nothing, the store down the street that use's the same song in their radio add-may not be liable for damages.


this is totally different..that toddler have no clue about the purple midget..he is just dancing to something playing faintly in the background..to him, if you show him a pic of Prince, he might just think that Prince is one of his playmate from the sandbox..they the same height(with heels).
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Reply #97 posted 07/05/09 11:53am

Yeshua4all

kewlschool said:

3232 said:

Can someone enlighten the rest of us?
In what way does a baby dancing to the song "lets go crazy' being played in his mammas kitchen, affect prince's image/royalties/ music/ pocket/ ego, or whatever the fuck it is he his trying to protect?
The next person who interviews him should throw that question at him...I would be glued to the t.v for his brilliant answer to that one.


In order for Prince (or anyone) to keep your copyright, you must keep it out of the public domain. Meaning that in proper use- "not licensed" use most be stopped. If you let anyone use your music/image-then you are in danger of losing your copyright/trademark forever. Because if it becomes public domain (which means any one can use it). And most importantly you can not receive monetary damages if you let it become public domain. So, if Prince lets someone use his music on youtube and does nothing, the store down the street that use's the same song in their radio add-may not be liable for damages.


Now that was informative and it makes perfect sense.
thumbs up!
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Reply #98 posted 07/05/09 12:26pm

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I will say this much, things are still "normal" over at imeem.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #99 posted 07/05/09 12:33pm

Dayclear

I've been a member over there for years, and I just wanna say that they gave sufficient notice of the upcoming changes weeks before they made them so it WAS not a surprise to us. The members have started another video site and have noticfied the others to join them by email. If you din't get one they must not want you to know. nod
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Reply #100 posted 07/05/09 12:44pm

idas

I think both of you need to take a step back. as much as I love this stuff and have an immense collection myself, at the end of the day, P is very fierce about protecting his legacy and how his content is shared. It's the same battle that's fought with the record lables...control over distribution. You can take it personal if you want, but at the end of the day its about the artist legacy. The yunguns coming up nowadays will hopefully be more educated in protecting what's theirs and not signing deals that offer little financial upside...you're seeing alot of that with rappers who stay indie and can remain indie and make millions without needing to sign to a major.

Finally, this whole P vs MJ thing...come on. I sat and watched P's interview with Tavis Smiley this AM, and I'm glad I did. That's the one thing about P that people miss. He's very intelligent and speaks well on a lot of current issues that affects us as a society, some with a twist on his own, but hey, everyone is entitled to an opinion. he has a good sense of history and, unlike MJ, is well respected and can hold his own with the black intelligenista.


3232 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

it WAS PRINCE. folks i know got their accounts closed over the shit. some people left afterwards because it just got to be too difficult to enjoy anything prince related. what the purple dude wit stick up his ass fails to realize is that no one was making money off of these vidz. in fact, new fans were made because of the vidz. people were wanting to go out and buy his old music because of what they saw on imeem and wanted to buy his latest release even more.

this was about fans who loved the music and the footage sharing it with others, this was not about profiting off of his hard work which is how his dumb ass (i luvs u princey but U R an idiot) perceives it. I mean he could have put all that stuff on lotusflow3r but does he? hell nah. you paid 70 plus bucks for a whack ass website that is not as much fun as an iphone.

folks who originally leaked the shit worked for him so that goes to show how much respect he garners from his inner circle. the vidz will resurface and so will the music, he can't stop it. he will waist money trying too.

p.s.
I love you Prince but I have more respect for MJ right now and he's been dead for 10 days.

agree 100%...aint nothing "genius" bout this behavior...all the talk bout Prince vs MJ..this is where I admire MJ over Prince..he is just genuine and loyal to his fans...they put bread on his table..I cant stand prince's ego..makes me sick some time.
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Reply #101 posted 07/05/09 12:54pm

DMSRCMC12

MJ also took photos with HIS fans.Face it people HE was a NICE guy to HIS FANS,to People-HE was kind.Unlike Prince NEVER a photo never a PHOTO with any of US>
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Reply #102 posted 07/05/09 12:56pm

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DMSRCMC12 said:

MJ also took photos with HIS fans.Face it people HE was a NICE guy to HIS FANS,to People-HE was kind.Unlike Prince NEVER a photo never a PHOTO with any of US>

Why does it matter to you if Prince take a picture with you?
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #103 posted 07/05/09 12:57pm

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And stop with the fucking MJ vs Prince bullshit. You guys look really stupid doing that shit and you aren't getting any points by doing that either.
[Edited 7/5/09 12:58pm]
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #104 posted 07/05/09 1:01pm

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Paris9748430 said:

zoetruluv said:

it was also the dumbasses who mentioned it on here.
did you think he wouldnt read it too?
rolleyes



EXACTLY!!!

It's like if someone passed around flyers saying they were giving stolen T.V.'s other electronics. Then they get mad when the cops raid their house!!!

It's like the movie American Gangster.

Frank Lucas would've gotten away with it if he didn't wear gigantic a fur coat to an Ali fight. Which announced to the world that he was a big time criminal!!!

I agree they also got rid of all but 2 of the Wendy and Lisa videos im thinking WTF!!! He may have rights over when they were in the band the Revolution but NOT when they went solo.
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #105 posted 07/05/09 1:04pm

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DMSRCMC12 said:

MJ also took photos with HIS fans.Face it people HE was a NICE guy to HIS FANS,to People-HE was kind.Unlike Prince NEVER a photo never a PHOTO with any of US>

Get back on topic please rolleyes
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #106 posted 07/05/09 1:06pm

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edit
[Edited 7/5/09 13:06pm]
Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #107 posted 07/05/09 1:07pm

Paris9748430

toots said:

Paris9748430 said:




EXACTLY!!!

It's like if someone passed around flyers saying they were giving stolen T.V.'s other electronics. Then they get mad when the cops raid their house!!!

It's like the movie American Gangster.

Frank Lucas would've gotten away with it if he didn't wear gigantic a fur coat to an Ali fight. Which announced to the world that he was a big time criminal!!!

I agree they also got rid of all but 2 of the Wendy and Lisa videos im thinking WTF!!! He may have rights over when they were in the band the Revolution but NOT when they went solo.


That sounds like a Record Label decision.
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #108 posted 07/05/09 1:09pm

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Paris9748430 said:

toots said:


I agree they also got rid of all but 2 of the Wendy and Lisa videos im thinking WTF!!! He may have rights over when they were in the band the Revolution but NOT when they went solo.


That sounds like a Record Label decision.

They were on different label after they went solo (Wendy and Lisa - Virgin I think, and Prince was with another) NO like label involved neutral
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Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #109 posted 07/05/09 2:01pm

DMSRCMC12

purplecam said:

DMSRCMC12 said:

MJ also took photos with HIS fans.Face it people HE was a NICE guy to HIS FANS,to People-HE was kind.Unlike Prince NEVER a photo never a PHOTO with any of US>

Why does it matter to you if Prince take a picture with you?


The point is MJ was NICE 2 HIS fans.PRINCE IS A PRICK but we all love HIM.Prince is a BULLY
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Reply #110 posted 07/05/09 2:13pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Paris9748430 said:




EXACTLY!!!

It's like if someone passed around flyers saying they were giving stolen T.V.'s other electronics. Then they get mad when the cops raid their house!!!

It's like the movie American Gangster.

Frank Lucas would've gotten away with it if he didn't wear gigantic a fur coat to an Ali fight. Which announced to the world that he was a big time criminal!!!



falloff

And in the end he was a SNITCH!!!

anyone who snitches on cops
are not genuine snitches to me.
go head frank!
and paris,you are so right.
ugh,that shit pisses me off.
sometimes i think fans just like
doing shit like this to be obnoxious.
i really do.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #111 posted 07/05/09 2:38pm

Paris9748430

DMSRCMC12 said:

purplecam said:


Why does it matter to you if Prince take a picture with you?


The point is MJ was NICE 2 HIS fans.PRINCE IS A PRICK but we all love HIM.Prince is a BULLY


Um, didn't MJ once charge his fans in Japan over $1000 just for the privilege of letting them shake his hand?

That doesn't sound so NICE to me!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #112 posted 07/05/09 2:41pm

DMSRCMC12

Paris9748430 said:

DMSRCMC12 said:



The point is MJ was NICE 2 HIS fans.PRINCE IS A PRICK but we all love HIM.Prince is a BULLY


Um, didn't MJ once charge his fans in Japan over $1000 just for the privilege of letting them shake his hand?

That doesn't sound so NICE to me!!!

That sound fine 2 me.The man has 2 make money.Prince is a control freak and does not let any one take a photo next 2 HIM because of HIS size!VERY SHORT!
$1000.to shake his hand and photo-when can I pay?
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Reply #113 posted 07/05/09 3:12pm

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I don't have a problem with sites removing Prince's stuff, the problem I have is that it should all be available on lotusflow3r. Such a wasted opportunity.
RIP sad
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Reply #114 posted 07/05/09 3:21pm

Paris9748430

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Prince is a control freak and does not let any one take a photo next 2 HIM because of HIS size!VERY SHORT!


Do you have experience with this subject, or are you just talking out of your ass?

How do you know he doesn't want people to take pictures of him because of his height? Did he tell you personally?

I wouldn't pay 1000 bucks to shake ANYBODY'S hand!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #115 posted 07/05/09 4:06pm

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Paris9748430 said:

DMSRCMC12 said:



Prince is a control freak and does not let any one take a photo next 2 HIM because of HIS size!VERY SHORT!


Do you have experience with this subject, or are you just talking out of your ass?

How do you know he doesn't want people to take pictures of him because of his height? Did he tell you personally?

I wouldn't pay 1000 bucks to shake ANYBODY'S hand!!!

Amen and Amen!
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #116 posted 07/05/09 4:08pm

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Lol I can't even get mad anymore. I do think it's foolish that Prince isn't taking advantage of all these different ways where people, mainly non-fans, can listen and appreciate his music but at the end of the day, it's his music. He has the right to do with it whatever he pleases and I think people need to respect that.
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"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #117 posted 07/05/09 4:15pm

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JayJai said:

Paris9748430 said:



Do you have experience with this subject, or are you just talking out of your ass?

How do you know he doesn't want people to take pictures of him because of his height? Did he tell you personally?

I wouldn't pay 1000 bucks to shake ANYBODY'S hand!!!

Amen and Amen!

co-co- sign clapping
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #118 posted 07/05/09 4:17pm

DMSRCMC12

Paris9748430 said:

DMSRCMC12 said:



Prince is a control freak and does not let any one take a photo next 2 HIM because of HIS size!VERY SHORT!


Do you have experience with this subject, or are you just talking out of your ass?

How do you know he doesn't want people to take pictures of him because of his height? Did he tell you personally?

I wouldn't pay 1000 bucks to shake ANYBODY'S hand!!!

Listen I would NOT pay $1000.00 2 shake His Hand but for a photo standing next to HIM!YES!!!I have been a fan since 1978-seen HIM first in BOSTON in the early 80's.I belive I was at the first aftershow ever!Purple Rain Tour He play at the Hotel HE and the band was staying at.I used to would at the same Hotel.I was there after the show to see friend and HE ask the club band if He could play a bit.
Well that is a bit of the subject.I have been 2 over 112 showes all over the world-I have talk to HIM before He is very nice.Yes He has shaking my hand.He even gave me a cow bell and stick!I have rooms full of music -clothing-MICS That I bought straight from DEZ.
But I have NO photo with HIM,not even in a show-u know HEs on stage and the people in the front get in the photo.I have been in LOTS of fronts row also!I would love that frame shot to have me in it.Why?I don't know!I just would love it.I have talked to my band members over the years,They all say the same thing "GOOD LUCK"NO one stands next 2 HIM for a photo.One time I was at MPLS I became close to His Hair person back in the early 90's she told me He does NOT want to look tiny Next fan.Well I could sit I told her.
Maybe some day!
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Reply #119 posted 07/05/09 4:19pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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TheEnglishGent said:

I don't have a problem with sites removing Prince's stuff, the problem I have is that it should all be available on lotusflow3r. Such a wasted opportunity.



I agree.

Of all the strange stuff he may do, protecting his work is not one of them.

I love all the videos folks have put on imeem and other sites, but cant blame Prince for having them taken down.

I think Prince and all other media artists and businesses should fight this tooth and nail until laws and technology catch up with the ramifications of digital media. Its way too easy for folks to copy work.

If they don’t fight it, they why bother creating anything if you are not going to get paid to even cover your costs. Its cheaper and easier not to make money staying home and watching TV than busting your ass and shelling out production money.
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