Shockadelica nonsense
whats that about?

khemseraph said:

Jesse Johnson's album 'Shockadelica' - Prince thought it was a shame with a title like that there was no title track for the album, so he recorded 'Shockadelica', got it out there, and it made it appear that Jesse had copied, or was a puppet of, Prince.

Not related to the thread though, as already corrected - Jelllybean Johnson made the quote, not Jesse.

utopia7 said:

OK then, all good, but why can't U say what he said? You're not under an NDA.

"He said something about how many Rock & Roll Hall of famers pay close attention 2 people using their material, images, etc."

Those other Rock & Roll Hall famers should be paying close attention.
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OldFriends4Sale said:

polkadotbliss said:

This upsets me too. I mean, the Revolution was like Miles' Kind of Blue lineup....it was an all-star lineup. What pains me is how bad Prince has treated his former bandmates. Especially Wendy and Lisa. These people have nothing but love for him, and he spits on them. And they did have a big impact on his success. I tihnk they really opened his mind to other music. He'd still be stuck in 1999 mode, and ATWIAD and Parade would've been pure shit.

Prince should show them a lot more respect.

prince is a punk

He's a prick.

a good ass looking punk

Volitan11 said:

Oh Good LORD, this is just so wrong in so many ways, and I'm not going there.


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Giovanni777 said:

wow. You musta never talked to anyone who worked for him

I just read it @ days ago, It was Jesse Johnson and Not Jellybean.....

Narcisists expect "Do Overs" constantly, they want to be treated for repeated offenses as if it is the first time they ever dissed U. There will be no reunions at least not done right because dude dont believe he did anything wrong.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dont worry, they'll all get together (with Prince)..... at his memorial.

Let's keep it real. All of the protegees knew who they were dealing with from jumpstart and they still got into the business with Prince. Considering he wrote most of the material from the early days they shouldn't have expected him to hand over control so easily. Maybe they thought that age and time would've softened him a bit but if anything he's more of a control freak than before. They may have issues with him but he put all of them on the map, so much so that people 25 years later are drooling over the thought of a new cd from The Time & The Family. If you didn't want to be in this situation then you always could've gotten out Prince could find another drummer, guitarist, bass player, keyboardist anytime and their are probably some cats out here who'd give their left nut to play with him on one track and then call it quits.

richardg said:

If you're referring to having read the Spin article, I'm not sure if you read it very thoroughly (no disrespect). The writers/interviewers clearly never talked to JESSE JOHNSON -- it was The Time/The Family's drummer JELLYBEAN JOHNSON. He was the one calling Prince a punk ass. I'm sure the recent problems with The Time and The Family using their respective band names with new releases has something to do with his annoyances with P. Yes, Jellybean has paid respect to P on at least one occasion (on video -- as referenced by Giovanni), but I'm sure he's also seen his fair share of Prince being a complete a** too.

Prince gave him a career.

prince says doo doo plop plop

2freaky4church1 said:

Start a new thing...

Nobody was crying about Prince Nelson being unfair when he gave them a break in 1978. Prince could've chose other players from L.A... He could've forgotten about his "homeboys in Minneapolis", but he did not.



Prince did not cut them off in 1979! These people need to stop...He "put them on" when they had no "inside track" into the industry from MPLS..

Did they "open doors" to the industry for anyone as Prince did for them (without control, or strings attached for the new-comer?


They got their revenge with their success as producers for Janet, and other people..Those guys must have a boatload of $$$$$ from the 80s and early 90s....and they took influence from Prince, and not much the other way around.



None of them publically backed Prince's stance against the industry's contracts in the 90s..



These people (including The Revolution ["The Rebels" were way better]) had a good time and had no worries about their careers.. Why care now?

Honestly, The Time and/or The Family should have remained united when they had they chance! They don't need to be creating songs like they did then.. (Singing about clubs and loose women..)


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Honestly, The Time and/or The Family should have remained united when they had they chance! They don't need to be creating songs like they did then.. (Singing about clubs and loose women..)


But Gigolos Need Love Too and Susannah needs pajamas.

mozfonky said:

A leader does not have to be manipulative and controlling-- only insecure leaders do that, because they don't know of any other way to lead.

duggalolly said:

Well, if we're talking music and many other things too. Everyone has their own ideas, their own sensibilities, if your boss can't trump that there must be a parting of ways. Most people do not take to being controlled very easily. I study sociology and those are the facts. It doesn't sound nice but it is what it is. People are often lazy, self-centered and useless for capitalistic purposes. Not all, but a good many, then there are others who will sell their very soul for a dollar, takes all kinds as a mentor used to say. I used to be fascinated how my college profs could wield so much power over their students lives and these kids would just silently obey with a little cursory "what a bitch" or "what a pompous ass" but they generally spent lots of time doing what they were told to do. I couldn't imagine getting different pools of people into a room like that, imagine crackheads, prostitutes, 12 year olds, etc.., they'd be choking the teacher or vice versa. Even when people have a "good" boss it is covertly understood that they are under control, it's only a more polite form of the same shit.

Zannaloaf said:

I've known several people who have worked 4 him, and no one says he is easy 2 work 4, but many positive things have been said. Most artists R demanding 2 some degree, and expect those who work 4 them 2 be as dedicated as they R.

Funny how no one mentions how challenging it is 2 work 4 Stevie Wonder, but it's not much different from working 4 Prince. No one in the business ever really expects an easy time working 4 a major artist.