In light of the MJ saddness I wonder who knows who takes care of P now?. He's single minded and stubborn as hell, there's no manager,no wife, he's alienated those that helped him on his way up [hopefully some bridges have been mended], his mum and dad have passed away, his friends seem to be made up now of showbiz types who will serve little more than yes people who are probably just glad to name drop him in conversation, his band [hopefully with the exception of Morris H.] are just hired and don't appear to have a real bond with him.
That leaves Larry G and his crew but that seems to have gone quiet as well [whatever your thoughts about Larry's influence on the music and lyrics at least he seems to have kept P clean]
So does anyone know who there is in the inner purple circle that will kick p's ass?, we all need advice sometimes, we all need to hear the truth sometimes and we all need unconditional love all the time. I really don't think P has any of this.

it's some dude called jehova

unique said:

Jehovah it one cool big yin

funkyhead said:

Prince has always seemed quite capable of looking after himself - despite his sometimes eccentric behaviour, he's always appeared quite grounded - all of what you have written is speculation and conjecture....you really have no idea and are just making wild assumptions.

In much the same way as you are making a tenuous link between MJ's circumstances and Prince. They are very different characters - and, its ironic that you're asking if anyone is there to "take care" of Prince, when MJ apparently had many around him that were supposed to be taking care of him too - too many cooks spoil the broth? I'd prefer that Prince remains independant and listens to the voice inside, rather than those of the hangers on!

Mindflux said:

fair point , but the voice inside doesn't always know best. His voice inside seems to tell him to screw people over [all very documented], it tells him to make very poor career / marketing decisons, etc. My point is clearly based on the inforamtion[some true , some conjecture] we have before us which leads me to conclude that he clearly has no one watching his back.

Yeah, well... after all this MJ stuff, with so many sad parallels to Elvis.. maybe Larry Graham isn't so bad after all huh? In fact I'm beginning to feel quite fond of him..

Jeffiner said:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

larry graham helped make prince a brainwashed robot.
prince has lost all grit now that he is sanitized by that hideous cult.
the old prince that stood for so many beautiful things like free expression, equality, liberation..
the new prince stands for rules, constriction and i bet some hate that he is too cowardly to admit to openly.

and he didnt attend his own parents' funeral? thats just foolish.

Larry Graham and the JW thing was the WORST THING that ever happened to P.

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

That's complete and utter B.S. Larry Graham didn't brainwash of force Prince to do anything he didn't want to do.

People need to stop blaming Larry Graham when Prince doesn't do things they want him to do.

You have no idea why Prince didn't go to his parents' funeral. I've had lots of family members die, including my father, my brother, and grandfather. I haven't gone to a single funeral because that's not the way I choose to grieve.

I choose to remember loved ones how they were and not laying in a box. I also don't want to see people I love in any pain.

So I've neve been a part of any so-called "cult".

You're accusing someone of trying to run Prince's life, but you're trying to do the exact same thing.

You want him to act, talk, and be who you want him to be.

You want him to act like he did when he was in his 20's, but he's not in his 20's. He's 51 years old.

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

i agree with this!

Paris9748430 said:

you also make some good points.....

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

I am talking about LG at least not sucking him dry. Prince appears to be in control of his life, unlike MJ and Elvis for instance, who were controlled by the people around them. When Prince met LG he seemed to be at a pretty low point in his life, or at least LG was around when he was hitting a real low personally and professionally, Larry seemed to give him some spiritual guidance, whether you like the direction it took or not. It seemed to help Prince spiritually, emotionally, and gave him some stability... otherwise, the point I was trying to make, is he could have gone down a very different road... got 'lost', whether it might have been drugs, or some other self destructive behaviour. Prince may not be doing what you want him to do creatively, but he seems fairly happy doing what he does, as someone else has said he's not in his 20's anymore, he's a 51 year old man! If those rules and restrictions as you see them keep him grounded and give him a purpose and boundaries in his life, that's probably good for HIM, if not for YOU... you know what I'm saying..?

Oh, and I hate to tell you this, but regardless of Larry Graham, I don't think Prince would have been gyrating around in his underwear and jacking off microphones at this point in his life ... thank the Lord ... 'Old skin', he said it, he is AWARE... that's a good thing !! Oh, and when I saw him at an aftershow in London, he didn't come across as sanitised or constricted in the least, quite the opposite. He made us all feel very free, liberated, beautiful and equal... I have no idea why he didn't attend his parents funerals, but I'm sure he had his own personal reasons which haven't really got anything to do with us!


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kimrachell said:

I agree, and THAT's exactly what happened to Michael Jackson and Elvis, and I'm sure many more. Prince has his own mind, dances to his own tune, and doesn't give a damn what everyone thinks to a large degree, which I'm sure is kind of necessary to survive in the industry he's in, and the level of fame he has.
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Mindflux said:

Oh I've just seen this post, yes exactly!

The one thing that I know is that when Prince needs, a friend, help of any kind that I am capable of, or a wife.

When love calls...I'm There 4 him.

Shiela

Larry Graham did brainwash Prince, that's a fact:



Source: Notorious:






[Edited 6/28/09 16:36pm]

Paris9748430 said:

OMG! its fucking prince ...ur a twat just thought id let ya know
[Edited 6/28/09 17:29pm]

You can't trust anybody these days. Prince had to learn that the hard way years ago. I know this has made him stop and think, I hope he's not afraid.

optimus said:

Is that the best you can come up with???

I think the question is pretty reasonable -- given the continual reports of Prince turning to medication to manage his hip-related pain and of his aversion to surgery.

Both Michael and Prince provided decades of amazing dance moves. As with professional athletes, injuries can arise from such extreme consistency. I think the question about who helps Prince manage proper boundaries is a fair one -- as with other entertainers and celebrities in similar positions.

Prince please look after yrslf. Human nature is mean. no one has faith, its abt the dolla. Aint that a piss. Please look after yourself. Its tyme 2 unite and b 1. Eye respect u.

lets not turn this into an LG bashing thread [i think overall he was at least a positive influence on keeping P taking care of himself]. All I want to know is who takin' care of our mans best interests?. Is it Bria?,is it Sheila?, is it LG or is it the mild mannered janitor? [hong kong phooey!!]. Looks like no one really knows who is in the inner purple circle?.

Larry Graham and the JW thing was the WORST THING that ever happened to P.

I agree with this statement. Aint shit been the same since they met. I know he

he would changed and matured but P would not be behaving like this. He used to

love us. Now P don't even trust us.

anniechristian1 said:

P stopped loving us long before LG came onto the scene. On a side note do you not remember the story from Mayte's housekeepers [?] talking about that now infamous night with P , the pills and the red wine and subsequent rush to the hostpital. Now if that was the road that P was heading down and LG saved him from that can you honestly say you give a shit about what influence LG had on the music?.

Paris9748430 said:

No....ur a genuis and ur an amazing talent please forgive me

P.S please release some old skool stuff remastered (B-Sides etc) thanks see ya in da purple rain u funky MO-FO!...but ur still a twat

Paris9748430 said:

A lot of people don't want to see that or they just don't care. They want what they want and that's it, forgetting about the one that's supposed to give them what they want. Very selfish if you ask me. I pray for Prince, that's all I can do.

Contrary to popular belief, Larry did not brainwash Prince or anyone else for that matter. If you've ever met and talked with Larry, and I have on several occasions you would know how much of a sweetheart he is and how much he cares for Prince.
You may disagree with his theology, but he is a genuine friend to Prince.

The sad irony was made clear to me when I was watching the personal accounts of Michael's final years until his tragic death this past weekend. MJ was surrounded by people who 'sucked' off of him, drained the life out of him, and didn't care about him. These same 'vampires' for lack of a better term, will move on to the next celebrity who invites them into their lives. Look at Britney, Charlie Sheen, and the Lindsay Lohan's of the world. Some make it out, some are still in it, like Lindsay. Michael, sadly, did not.

Say what you want, but Prince has a true friend in Larry Graham. Someone who doesn't care about Prince's fame and fortune-but his well being. Who cares about the "sound has changed since Larry came into the picture" self centered nonsense?! Prince is happy and, now more than ever, that should mean something to all of us.

thedance said:

thanks for those articles!

I'm not particularly a Larry fan, but I have to agree with the sentiment of may posters about his seemingly positive influence on prince's wellbeing.

Let's remember that Prince has suffered a lot of personal tradegy/ sorrow in his life - and all seemingly in a relatively short time period - many ppl would have sunk in those circumstances. Whatever lifted Prince from that period to one where he appears to be happy and comfortable with his life is up to him.

Of course, we all have an opinion how that has altered our experience of his output/ attitude since his new direction. But it's his choice and many alternatives (self destructive behaviour one example) could have resulted in Prince not being with us here and now.

I don't wanna make comparisons with the terrible circumstances around MJ's demise - and at such a relatively young age - but it does give us timely reflection.

He has no friends!