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Thread started 06/29/09 1:48pm

bonniewaiting

Prince's Masters 2012

Will Prince's masters go up for auction in 2012 for him to buy back or will he own them outright at that time?

thanks!
Bonnie ~
[Edited 6/29/09 13:51pm]
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Reply #1 posted 06/29/09 1:51pm

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #2 posted 06/29/09 1:54pm

bonniewaiting

Nice! thats what i though but could not find much about it online. Does anyone know what day it will be? Im sure that day he will be one happy guy!
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Reply #3 posted 06/29/09 2:10pm

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[Edited 12/25/09 17:01pm]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #4 posted 06/29/09 2:15pm

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falloff
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #5 posted 06/29/09 2:17pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

crysball crysball crysball crysball crysball crysball crysball crysball crysball
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...he will get them all back!!!!..
..mzsexybaby'TRUST THE RIDE' yes stirthepot lips


No. He will gain ownership rights to his masters of the For You album in 2012. That's it. Then, he will acquire ownership of the other WB albums with each 35-year anniversary of release.
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Reply #6 posted 06/29/09 2:19pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...he will get them all back!!!!..


No, he won't. rolleyes

He will own the masters after a period of 35 years - for each album individually. He will get For You back in 2013 (1978+35), Prince in 2014 (1979+35), Dirty Mind in 2015 (1980+35) and so on.
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Reply #7 posted 06/29/09 2:22pm

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Genesia said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...he will get them all back!!!!..


No, he won't. rolleyes

He will own the masters after a period of 35 years - for each album individually. He will get For You back in 2013 (1978+35), Prince in 2014 (1979+35), Dirty Mind in 2015 (1980+35) and so on.


Your math is better than mine. wink
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Reply #8 posted 06/29/09 2:25pm

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The question is what will he do with them?

I hope he starts releasing them asap! don't sit on 'em or we'll never get up to date. one a year would be a nice addition to any new albums he releases.

plus bonus tracks of course!!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 06/29/09 2:26pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Genesia said:



No, he won't. rolleyes

He will own the masters after a period of 35 years - for each album individually. He will get For You back in 2013 (1978+35), Prince in 2014 (1979+35), Dirty Mind in 2015 (1980+35) and so on.


Your math is better than mine. wink


I just want to know what it is with folks expecting a writer to do math. I been getting hit with that a lot lately. disbelief lol
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Reply #10 posted 06/29/09 2:28pm

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[Edited 12/25/09 17:01pm]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #11 posted 06/29/09 2:31pm

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #12 posted 06/29/09 3:17pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...one year ago...i said he would get them back...everyone laughed..
..NOW it has all changed biggrin
..slowly?..surely?...it don't matter..prince wants..honey he gets!!..
..mzsexybaby'BOOM!' sexy


They're still laughing at you. Do the math.
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Reply #13 posted 06/29/09 3:27pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

...one year ago...i said he would get them back...everyone laughed..
..NOW it has all changed biggrin

Nothing has changed

The law is still the same that states the masters ordinarily revert back upon notice 35 years after the due date.

And everyone is still laughing
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Reply #14 posted 06/29/09 3:39pm

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lotusflw3r said:

The question is what will he do with them?


Based upon all of the post-Warner Bros albums, once Prince gets his masters back... they will all go out of print immediately.
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Reply #15 posted 06/29/09 4:26pm

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If he gets them back the dirty words/references will be bleeped, changed, or trax will be dropped entirely (ie. Let's Pretend We're Married, Sister, Jack U Off, etc.)

Sad, no?

sad
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Reply #16 posted 06/29/09 4:34pm

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Yes, it was one of the things prophesied by the Mayans.
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Reply #17 posted 06/29/09 4:46pm

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Spanky said:

If he gets them back the dirty words/references will be bleeped, changed, or trax will be dropped entirely (ie. Let's Pretend We're Married, Sister, Jack U Off, etc.)

Sad, no?

sad


Then that will make him a hypercritic. The reason for his stance on the internet was so that people don’t 'bastardize' his songs. If he changes them then he's no different. I hope he leaves them as they are and like us appreciates that these songs are a part of his history and are sacred.
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Reply #18 posted 06/29/09 4:55pm

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chocolatehandles said:

Then that will make him a hypercritic. The reason for his stance on the internet was so that people don’t 'bastardize' his songs.

Yeah, so THEY don't fuck with his songs, it's OK if he does it, they'd be his property.

(I'd hate it too of course, just saying).
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Reply #19 posted 06/29/09 5:04pm

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Let's just believe in it. I want Prince to have what is his. cool
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Reply #20 posted 06/29/09 5:46pm

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Spanky said:

If he gets them back the dirty words/references will be bleeped, changed, or trax will be dropped entirely (ie. Let's Pretend We're Married, Sister, Jack U Off, etc.)

Sad, no?

sad


I shudder to think that he'd actually do that after all this time. I mean, if he doesn't want to curse now, that's cool. But to totally butt fuck his past catalog, the one that got him where he is...I can't imagine it. Although in the back of my mind, I feel like that's what he'd do. He'd overdub shit too, trying to improve on it. He HAS to know that people would NOT buy such rubbish, no matter who they are. Can you imagine The Beatles or Led Zepplin doing that shit? Has ANYONE ever done that, I wonder?
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Reply #21 posted 06/29/09 5:54pm

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Genesia said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...he will get them all back!!!!..


No, he won't. rolleyes

He will own the masters after a period of 35 years - for each album individually. He will get For You back in 2013 (1978+35), Prince in 2014 (1979+35), Dirty Mind in 2015 (1980+35) and so on.


Keep in mind that it's 35 years from the album's original release date. It will not automatically be January 1, 2013. It will be October 2013 for For You, etc.

Still, it's just around the corner . . .
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Reply #22 posted 06/29/09 6:00pm

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ernestsewell said:

Spanky said:

If he gets them back the dirty words/references will be bleeped, changed, or trax will be dropped entirely (ie. Let's Pretend We're Married, Sister, Jack U Off, etc.)

Sad, no?

sad


I shudder to think that he'd actually do that after all this time. I mean, if he doesn't want to curse now, that's cool. But to totally butt fuck his past catalog, the one that got him where he is...I can't imagine it. Although in the back of my mind, I feel like that's what he'd do. He'd overdub shit too, trying to improve on it. He HAS to know that people would NOT buy such rubbish, no matter who they are. Can you imagine The Beatles or Led Zepplin doing that shit? Has ANYONE ever done that, I wonder?


The movie equivalent would be George Lucas constantly adding new CGI footage to the ORIGINAL Star Wars trilogy. The new footage looks so good it is really out of place in most cases.
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Reply #23 posted 06/29/09 7:49pm

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Lets just pray that Prince protects his music from himself.

I know it's his but when he sold it it also became ours and we don't want it changed.
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Reply #24 posted 06/30/09 12:11am

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chocolatehandles said:

Spanky said:

If he gets them back the dirty words/references will be bleeped, changed, or trax will be dropped entirely (ie. Let's Pretend We're Married, Sister, Jack U Off, etc.)

Sad, no?

sad


Then that will make him a hypercritic. The reason for his stance on the internet was so that people don’t 'bastardize' his songs. If he changes them then he's no different. I hope he leaves them as they are and like us appreciates that these songs are a part of his history and are sacred.


Have you heard The Cross played live recently!?
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Reply #25 posted 06/30/09 9:19am

bonniewaiting

Genesia said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...he will get them all back!!!!..


No, he won't. rolleyes

He will own the masters after a period of 35 years - for each album individually. He will get For You back in 2013 (1978+35), Prince in 2014 (1979+35), Dirty Mind in 2015 (1980+35) and so on.


aww well if thats the standard what was the point of all the negotiations with WB? or was THIS the agreement?

why did the Beatles stuff go up for auction for MJ to purchase right from under McCartney's nose?

Bonnie~
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Reply #26 posted 06/30/09 11:24am

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bonniewaiting said:[quote]

Genesia said:




why did the Beatles stuff go up for auction for MJ to purchase right from under McCartney's nose?

Bonnie~


the record label must have wanted to sell them. paul mccartney had brought, I think nat king coles back cat, and had told mj that it was a excellant way to make money. so when the beatles back cat came up for sale mj outbid lennon and mcc who obl didn't have enough money. mjs reply was: "thats bussiness".

the story always cracks me up, because even tho i love the beatles, i find paul mcc so irritating, (almost as much as bono).


if WB effectively owns all of Prince's classic back-catalogue. Why haven't they released them as remasters?. They would make so much money! I always thought Prince had regained ownership and thats why we would never get remasters.

Do WB also not have loads of Prince unreleased stuff as well, like the original crystal ball and dream factory - even roadhouse garden? and many single tracks as well. so why don't they release them>?
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Reply #27 posted 06/30/09 11:39am

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WB can't issue remasters without Prince's agreement. Their "ownership" of
Prince's back catalogue is only the ownership of the right to manufacture and
distribute the released albums "as is". They cannot make changes to those
albums without Prince's permission (so they can't add tracks or remaster them).
They also don't have the right to issue any previously unreleased tracks or
albums.
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Reply #28 posted 06/30/09 11:52am

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jethrouk said:[quote]

bonniewaiting said:

Genesia said:




why did the Beatles stuff go up for auction for MJ to purchase right from under McCartney's nose?

Bonnie~


the record label must have wanted to sell them. paul mccartney had brought, I think nat king coles back cat, and had told mj that it was a excellant way to make money. so when the beatles back cat came up for sale mj outbid lennon and mcc who obl didn't have enough money. mjs reply was: "thats bussiness".

the story always cracks me up, because even tho i love the beatles, i find paul mcc so irritating, (almost as much as bono).


if WB effectively owns all of Prince's classic back-catalogue. Why haven't they released them as remasters?. They would make so much money! I always thought Prince had regained ownership and thats why we would never get remasters.

Do WB also not have loads of Prince unreleased stuff as well, like the original crystal ball and dream factory - even roadhouse garden? and many single tracks as well. so why don't they release them>?
[Edited 6/30/09 11:25am]


I believe that was the publishing rights, with regards 2 MJ and The Beatles.

This thread is based on Prince and the master tapes from his WB career, which SHOULD be referring 2 the original 2" tape masters, tracked out.
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