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Reply #30 posted 06/18/09 5:42pm

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daPrettyman said:

WetDream said:



"the new Mplsound"

and the fact it sounds fresh and uptodate?

good job too, would of hated a 1999 or controversy rehash ( an album of no more candy 4 u's) and would of been embarrassed by it. The new Mplsound is comfortably blazing from the subs in my car 8-)

and btw, if we talking about his new funk in general, F.U.N.K blows alot of his older stuff out the water. The only gripe i have with it is that it sounds a lot like some older stuff.
[Edited 6/18/09 16:24pm]

To me, MPLSOUND does not necessarily sound up to date; it's just new music that he created using the lin drum machine. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the stuff on MPLSOUND as well as many of his recent songs. I think Prince wanted to capture the MPSLOUND that he helped to create. He touched on many of his techniques he used on many of his hits and album cuts during the 1999, Controversy and Dirty Mind eras.

There is NOTHING new about the MPLSOUND. It faded away a long time ago. Hell, Prince was one that helped to kill it. He kind of got rid of it after 87 or so. He was so hell-bent on trying to create new sounds and started following the trends that were current at the time.

Now, to say that a song like "F.U.N.K" blows a lot of his old stuff out of the water is an insult. I would love to know what songs you think it "blows" out the water. I can't think of one. Especially if we're talking prior to the name change.


i respect your opinion mate but, thats just what it is here, opinion. I don't think Mplsound is not up to date because, simply, i do! a lot of it would blow up on the charts. The only thing "old" about it is the Linn but, as we are in the electronic age of music, it fits and also, the programming/arrangements of it are fresh.

Well, i believe there is a lot new about the new Mplsound hence the effect its had on me and others, i think none before sounds like Valentina or Choco Box for example (i will include Black Sweat in this!)

I think F.U.N.K destroys a lot! Im a huge fan of the fonk and F.U.N.K gives me that fonk face BIG TIME. The attitude, the lyrics, the musicianship, the solo's, the voice, the length...god dayamn! But, as i said, my only gripe is that it sounds a lot like some older stuff like Rock Hard In a Funky Place (and thats one track i think F.U.N.K beats).

Its funny though, to the new folks i get into Prince, they show the same love to the new stuff as with the old. F.U.N.K is infact my good friends fave Prince track ever for the reasons i gave.
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Reply #31 posted 06/18/09 5:55pm

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ernestsewell said:

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I don't agree with you on that. He has to adapt with the times and like what was said before, this is the Minneapolis Sound where Prince is concerned NOW, not in 1982.


That's the problem. Prince's music started the early stages of suffering when he adapted to the scene, instead of setting the standard. He invented the Minneapolis sound, as well as Jimmy & Terry with their producing efforts (it's hard to really pin point who started it, but I'd rather think they skipped along hand in hand, both creating it as time went on.) I don't want Prince to put out 1999 part 2. But when he touts a record as a big nod to his former sound, the record had better damn well live up to that. MPLSound didn't. Prince is the one who set the bar on any particular thing he's done. It's what we expect of him, and when he doesn't quite deliver, therein lies the debates for the future, which is great. No one here is out to convince someone else the superiority or substandard nature of any particular album, song, or whatever by the man. Prince started following the rap trend heavily, etc and that's when his creativity took a huge downturn for a while. He's had other downturns in his music based on those around him.


The funk stuff of today is still hitting me. Songs like Black Sweat, Love, The Word, Feel Better..., Dance 4 Me, Chocolate Box, Old School Company and No More Candy 4 U are funky to me and I can dance to it and that's all I ask for.


Some of those songs are good. I liked the 3121 album and most of the songs I can dig still. Same with Planet Earth for the most part. I just expect a higher quality of record from Prince. To me, he just hasn't quite delivered that in quite a while. I think Emancipation was his last really good record (and even that could have been whittled down a notch if needed). Rave was pretty damn decent, but had some flaws. Of course all records have a flaw here and there (read: Jughead).


i think u hit it on the head when u say it's what u xpect not what prince's muse is telling him what 2 create. so if ur not digging what his output is then it's not really prince's fault now is it since as u said, "it's what we xpect", well the we is really u and others but not everyone that takes it 4 what it is and not what he's done in his past efforts then right?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #32 posted 06/18/09 6:15pm

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WetDream said:

daPrettyman said:


How did u come 2 that conclusion?


"the new Mplsound"

and the fact it sounds fresh and uptodate?

good job too, would of hated a 1999 or controversy rehash ( an album of no more candy 4 u's) and would of been embarrassed by it. The new Mplsound is comfortably blazing from the subs in my car cool

and btw, if we talking about his new funk in general, F.U.N.K blows alot of his older stuff out the water. The only gripe i have with it is that it sounds a lot like some older stuff.
[Edited 6/18/09 16:24pm]

Finally someone making sense around here. Too far and in between in these parts. highfive
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Reply #33 posted 06/18/09 6:18pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

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I don't agree with you on that. He has to adapt with the times and like what was said before, this is the Minneapolis Sound where Prince is concerned NOW, not in 1982. Doesn't matter if you agree with him or not. If you or anyone else here doesn't believe that it is, then listen to 1999, What Time Is It? or anything Prince did or was associated with in the early 1980's and get your fix there.

The funk stuff of today is still hitting me. Songs like Black Sweat, Love, The Word, Feel Better..., Dance 4 Me, Chocolate Box, Old School Company and No More Candy 4 U are funky to me and I can dance to it and that's all I ask for. Again if that's not hitting you where you live, you got your CD's to hold you through or you can be done with him. I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just being honest with you.


i agree with u. 4 me i never look at any of his albums with the perception of it better sound like this or that. the only thing i did with lotus and mpls was hoping that it was better than planet earth and 4 me it surpasses that with flying colors. his sound has evolved with the times, shame his fanbase is always trying 2 keep his sound grounded in a time capsule.

Amen to that brother. If people here want to stay stuck in the past, to hell with them and let them be. Prince is moving on and we choose to move with him or not. I choose to move, thank you very much!
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Reply #34 posted 06/18/09 6:21pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

ernestsewell said:



Don't misquote me. I never said that, or even hinted at it.



did i flat out say ernestsewell said so and so? nope ..but if ur repsonding 2 me about it, then perhaps it's hitting more closer 2 home than u might think


No darlin', that's an old argument. But you DID use my quote to say I was another one that wanted something from back then, or whatever, opposed to just saying it without quoting me or anything else. So ergo, my reply.
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Reply #35 posted 06/18/09 6:27pm

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ernestsewell said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




did i flat out say ernestsewell said so and so? nope ..but if ur repsonding 2 me about it, then perhaps it's hitting more closer 2 home than u might think


No darlin', that's an old argument. But you DID use my quote to say I was another one that wanted something from back then, or whatever, opposed to just saying it without quoting me or anything else. So ergo, my reply.


but .."darlin'" u do want those old songs back ..big grin
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Reply #36 posted 06/18/09 6:36pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

ernestsewell said:



No darlin', that's an old argument. But you DID use my quote to say I was another one that wanted something from back then, or whatever, opposed to just saying it without quoting me or anything else. So ergo, my reply.


but .."darlin'" u do want those old songs back ..big grin


If I want the old songs, I have the albums. I can go listen to them. So wanting those old songs back is kind of a moot point.
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Reply #37 posted 06/18/09 9:26pm

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WetDream said:

daPrettyman said:


To me, MPLSOUND does not necessarily sound up to date; it's just new music that he created using the lin drum machine. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the stuff on MPLSOUND as well as many of his recent songs. I think Prince wanted to capture the MPSLOUND that he helped to create. He touched on many of his techniques he used on many of his hits and album cuts during the 1999, Controversy and Dirty Mind eras.

There is NOTHING new about the MPLSOUND. It faded away a long time ago. Hell, Prince was one that helped to kill it. He kind of got rid of it after 87 or so. He was so hell-bent on trying to create new sounds and started following the trends that were current at the time.

Now, to say that a song like "F.U.N.K" blows a lot of his old stuff out of the water is an insult. I would love to know what songs you think it "blows" out the water. I can't think of one. Especially if we're talking prior to the name change.


i respect your opinion mate but, thats just what it is here, opinion. I don't think Mplsound is not up to date because, simply, i do! a lot of it would blow up on the charts. The only thing "old" about it is the Linn but, as we are in the electronic age of music, it fits and also, the programming/arrangements of it are fresh.

Well, i believe there is a lot new about the new Mplsound hence the effect its had on me and others, i think none before sounds like Valentina or Choco Box for example (i will include Black Sweat in this!)

I think F.U.N.K destroys a lot! Im a huge fan of the fonk and F.U.N.K gives me that fonk face BIG TIME. The attitude, the lyrics, the musicianship, the solo's, the voice, the length...god dayamn! But, as i said, my only gripe is that it sounds a lot like some older stuff like Rock Hard In a Funky Place (and thats one track i think F.U.N.K beats).

Its funny though, to the new folks i get into Prince, they show the same love to the new stuff as with the old. F.U.N.K is infact my good friends fave Prince track ever for the reasons i gave.
[Edited 6/18/09 17:43pm]

I totally respect ur opinion about everything. However, you don't think "Sister", "Onedayi'magonnabesomebody", "Horny Toad" and "Gotta Stop Messing About" don't sound like "Chocolate Box" or "No More Candy For You"? Same type of songs. Sure, they are different, but the same style.

To me, songs like "Rock Hard In A Funky Place", "FUNK" and "Turn Me Loose" are more jam sessions. These songs sound like something James Brown would have done. I love that style of Prince, but I prefer songs like "Dance 4 Me", "Erotic City", and "Housequake" when I want to hear funky Prince.

I have a huge problem with "FUNK". I really get pissed when I hear this song. It's more about the lyrical content that I get upset about. I don't like the fact that the song is an attack on fans. I don't think he was attacking me personally, but I just thought the song was distasteful. If it was an instrumental or had different lyrics, I would be cool with it, but I get upset everytime I hear it.
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Reply #38 posted 06/19/09 4:38am

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daPrettyman said:

WetDream said:



i respect your opinion mate but, thats just what it is here, opinion. I don't think Mplsound is not up to date because, simply, i do! a lot of it would blow up on the charts. The only thing "old" about it is the Linn but, as we are in the electronic age of music, it fits and also, the programming/arrangements of it are fresh.

Well, i believe there is a lot new about the new Mplsound hence the effect its had on me and others, i think none before sounds like Valentina or Choco Box for example (i will include Black Sweat in this!)

I think F.U.N.K destroys a lot! Im a huge fan of the fonk and F.U.N.K gives me that fonk face BIG TIME. The attitude, the lyrics, the musicianship, the solo's, the voice, the length...god dayamn! But, as i said, my only gripe is that it sounds a lot like some older stuff like Rock Hard In a Funky Place (and thats one track i think F.U.N.K beats).

Its funny though, to the new folks i get into Prince, they show the same love to the new stuff as with the old. F.U.N.K is infact my good friends fave Prince track ever for the reasons i gave.
[Edited 6/18/09 17:43pm]

I totally respect ur opinion about everything. However, you don't think "Sister", "Onedayi'magonnabesomebody", "Horny Toad" and "Gotta Stop Messing About" don't sound like "Chocolate Box" or "No More Candy For You"? Same type of songs. Sure, they are different, but the same style.

To me, songs like "Rock Hard In A Funky Place", "FUNK" and "Turn Me Loose" are more jam sessions. These songs sound like something James Brown would have done. I love that style of Prince, but I prefer songs like "Dance 4 Me", "Erotic City", and "Housequake" when I want to hear funky Prince.

I have a huge problem with "FUNK". I really get pissed when I hear this song. It's more about the lyrical content that I get upset about. I don't like the fact that the song is an attack on fans. I don't think he was attacking me personally, but I just thought the song was distasteful. If it was an instrumental or had different lyrics, I would be cool with it, but I get upset everytime I hear it.


See that may be apart of the problem. a song by prince from his personal perspective should not upset u. That's being way to immersed in feeling that u have some personal relationship with him. If prince feels attacked by fans that is his perspective what's there to be mad about. i find that ridiculous.
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Reply #39 posted 06/19/09 6:40am

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tricky99 said:

daPrettyman said:


I totally respect ur opinion about everything. However, you don't think "Sister", "Onedayi'magonnabesomebody", "Horny Toad" and "Gotta Stop Messing About" don't sound like "Chocolate Box" or "No More Candy For You"? Same type of songs. Sure, they are different, but the same style.

To me, songs like "Rock Hard In A Funky Place", "FUNK" and "Turn Me Loose" are more jam sessions. These songs sound like something James Brown would have done. I love that style of Prince, but I prefer songs like "Dance 4 Me", "Erotic City", and "Housequake" when I want to hear funky Prince.

I have a huge problem with "FUNK". I really get pissed when I hear this song. It's more about the lyrical content that I get upset about. I don't like the fact that the song is an attack on fans. I don't think he was attacking me personally, but I just thought the song was distasteful. If it was an instrumental or had different lyrics, I would be cool with it, but I get upset everytime I hear it.


See that may be apart of the problem. a song by prince from his personal perspective should not upset u. That's being way to immersed in feeling that u have some personal relationship with him. If prince feels attacked by fans that is his perspective what's there to be mad about. i find that ridiculous.

I don't think I have a "personal relationship" with him in any way. I just think that it was distasteful and I cannot stand to listen to that song.
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Reply #40 posted 06/19/09 7:21am

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just cause you came up with something doesn't mean you can still do it.



he hasn't repeated that old sound. Hes came up with a new one..."the new Mplsound"

well all righty. Then the new sound is awful.
Especially the linn drums randomly cranked to eleven with no regard for the music.
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Reply #41 posted 06/19/09 9:24am

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ernestsewell said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



but .."darlin'" u do want those old songs back ..big grin


If I want the old songs, I have the albums. I can go listen to them. So wanting those old songs back is kind of a moot point.



and saying mplsound isn't the mpls sound is moot as well ..i agree thumbs up!
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