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Thread started 06/18/09 1:33pm

Smillan

Apollonia vs Vanity 6

Hey, I don't have either of these albums. Are they worth getting, does anyone have a favourite? Cheers
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Reply #1 posted 06/18/09 1:51pm

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I love Vanity 6 so much better than Apollonia.
I know Vanity did "Sex Shooter" as a test for audio or whatever sounded much better tan Apollonia 6's.
YES! I SAID IT!
[You know how long I been on ya? Since Prince was on Apollonia.]
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Reply #2 posted 06/18/09 1:58pm

ernestsewell

cheesecakequeen said:

I love Vanity 6 so much better than Apollonia.
I know Vanity did "Sex Shooter" as a test for audio or whatever sounded much better tan Apollonia 6's.


It wasn't a test audio, IIRC. It was due to be another V6 song, but when she jumped ship, it was reworked for A6.
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Reply #3 posted 06/18/09 1:58pm

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cheesecakequeen said:

I love Vanity 6 so much better than Apollonia.
I know Vanity did "Sex Shooter" as a test for audio or whatever sounded much better tan Apollonia 6's.


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Reply #4 posted 06/18/09 1:59pm

ernestsewell

Smillan said:

Hey, I don't have either of these albums. Are they worth getting, does anyone have a favourite? Cheers


Both have good and bad points, but V6 tends to be more popular. It fits right in with 1999, Controversy, The Time, and What Time Is It?

A6 has a few interesting and fun tracks, and a few stinkers as well. They're worth having for collection purposes too.
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Reply #5 posted 06/18/09 2:19pm

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ernestsewell said:

cheesecakequeen said:

I love Vanity 6 so much better than Apollonia.
I know Vanity did "Sex Shooter" as a test for audio or whatever sounded much better tan Apollonia 6's.


It wasn't a test audio, IIRC. It was due to be another V6 song, but when she jumped ship, it was reworked for A6.

Ooooh
Hell, I was lied to!
YES! I SAID IT!
[You know how long I been on ya? Since Prince was on Apollonia.]
R.I.P Michael! Sad, the only time he was in peace, was when he wasn't alive.
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Reply #6 posted 06/18/09 2:30pm

ernestsewell

cheesecakequeen said:

ernestsewell said:



It wasn't a test audio, IIRC. It was due to be another V6 song, but when she jumped ship, it was reworked for A6.

Ooooh
Hell, I was lied to!


I just say that because the original version w/ Vanity was more of a rock number. Not full on rock, but if you've heard it, you know it's a long the lines of LRC, opposed to the reworked pop version we know from A6.
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Reply #7 posted 06/18/09 2:34pm

NastradumasKid

Vanity....obivously.
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Reply #8 posted 06/18/09 2:36pm

Dave1992

Vanity is a better singer and hotter, but I'd fuck the shit out of Apples too.
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Reply #9 posted 06/18/09 2:44pm

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I guess everyone here will say they love Vanity more than Apollonia, maybe becuz Vanity was 1st, she's seen as more original?

Nevermind I love both of them, both have some really great trax.
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Reply #10 posted 06/18/09 2:48pm

carmy

smileu need both albums. they are very era correct.highs and lows on both.loved each one though.
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Reply #11 posted 06/18/09 3:09pm

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^ I agree about highs and lows,

these are great trax imo:

Vanity 6:
Nasty Girl
If a Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up)

Apollonia 6:
Sex Shooter
Happy Birthday Mr. Christian

the rest is so and so... just okay.
[Edited 6/18/09 15:10pm]
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Reply #12 posted 06/18/09 3:16pm

uPtoWnNY

cheesecakequeen said:

I love Vanity 6 so much better than Apollonia.
I know Vanity did "Sex Shooter" as a test for audio or whatever sounded much better tan Apollonia 6's.



Right on both counts.
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Reply #13 posted 06/18/09 3:35pm

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Definitely Vanity 6.

Aside from Sex Shooter, the Apollonia 6 was made up of 'ok' to 'average'
material. If Vanity had stayed with the band, or if Apollonia had been
interested in pursuing a singing career, it would've been a very different
and much stronger album. But since Apollonia wanted to carry on with her
acting career and wasn't interested in staying with the band post Purple Rain
Prince understandably withdrew most of the stronger tracks before it was
released.
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/09 4:04pm

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Both albums are great. Vanity 6 is a bit of an electropop classic, a lot of people really like that album outside of it's Prince connection. It's relatively influential. The Apollonia 6 LP is one of my fav's, but I'm drawn to the campy underdog side of Prince's work any way - 'Happy Birthday Mr. Christian' is one of my all time favourite P. tracks.

They're totally worth getting. After getting all of the albums in his own name(s), I think the produced and related artists albums/productions are just as important to Prince's body of work.

That goes for the Time, NPG, everyone down to Ingrid Chavez and Carmen Electra, there's something on each of those records that Prince was tinkering or expirmenting with that would shape the stuff he released himself, and they fill in the blanks between the transition from album X and album Y.
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Reply #15 posted 06/18/09 4:20pm

3121

Which of these groups sang 'Makeup'? That is a great track.
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Reply #16 posted 06/18/09 4:22pm

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^ Vanity 6 (with Susan on lead vocals)
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Reply #17 posted 06/18/09 4:27pm

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Here's the tracklistings...

Vanity 6

1. Nasty Girl
2. Wet Dream
3. Drive Me Wild
4. He's So Dull
5. If A Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up)
6. Make-Up
7. Bite The Beat
8. 3 x 2 = 6

Apollonia 6

1. Happy Birthday Mr. Christian
2. Sex Shooter
3. Blue Limousine
4. A Million Miles (I Love You)
5. Ooo She She Wa Wa
6. Some Kind Of Lover
7. In A Spanish Villa

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Reply #18 posted 06/18/09 4:27pm

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Great to see Happy Birthday Mr. Christian gets some love in this thread, (Nouveaudance).

I agree it's a great funky track..... cool
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Reply #19 posted 06/18/09 4:45pm

ernestsewell

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3. Blue Limousine


Which sounds exactly like "Toy Box" from Sheila E.
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Reply #20 posted 06/18/09 5:02pm

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^ Probably no coincidence, especially since some of Sheila E's first album was
originally intended for the Apollonia 6 album (though of course, Toy Box is
actually from her second album)...

Tracks originally intended for the Apollonia 6 album...

The Glamorous Life
Sex Shooter
Take Me With U
17 Days
Manic Monday
G-Spot
Oliver's House
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar

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[Edited 6/18/09 17:03pm]
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Reply #21 posted 06/18/09 5:05pm

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thedance said:

Great to see Happy Birthday Mr. Christian gets some love in this thread, (Nouveaudance).

I agree it's a great funky track..... cool


and it was the final track added to the album, right at the last minute.
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Reply #22 posted 06/19/09 4:24am

SoulAlive

BorisFishpaw said:

Aside from Sex Shooter, the Apollonia 6 was made up of 'ok' to 'average' material.


I think "Blue Limousine" is fantastic too wink But I agree,the other tracks are 'ok' to 'average'.


If Vanity had stayed with the band it would've been a very different
and much stronger album.


I agree.The V6 version of "Sex Shooter" is excellent and "Vibrator" is totally outrageous! Add "G-Spot" to this album and you got an incredible Side One right there.It's a shame that Vanity left...the album probably would have been incredible and much stronger than the first album.
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Reply #23 posted 06/19/09 5:23am

MrMul

BorisFishpaw said:


Tracks originally intended for the Apollonia 6 album...

The Glamorous Life
Sex Shooter
Take Me With U
17 Days
Manic Monday
G-Spot
Oliver's House
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar

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[Edited 6/18/09 17:03pm]


5 absolute classic tracks (I mean the first 5). I'm actually glad he gave Glamorous Life to Sheila, and SO glad he kept Take Me With U and 17 Days for himself. I cant imagine them any other way.
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Reply #24 posted 06/19/09 8:42am

xlr8r

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<--rides for Blue Limousine
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Reply #25 posted 06/21/09 8:26am

Wildboy

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BorisFishpaw said:

The Glamorous Life
Sex Shooter
Take Me With U
17 Days
Manic Monday
G-Spot
Oliver's House
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar[Edited 6/18/09 17:03pm]


Holy Crap. This would have been such a strong album. Would have put Vanity on the map forever. I'm making an I tunes tracklist right now. Does a version of 17 Days exist with Vanity/Apples singing?
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Reply #26 posted 06/21/09 9:17am

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I would have a hard time choosing between the two. They're both totally of the moment, it seems to me, yet they hold up really well. Vanity 6 is such a 1982 album, a nice mix of New Wave with what Prince sounded like at the time. I love how V6 fit in with and at the same time could be juxtaposed against the other popular girl groups of that time.

Apollonia 6 is really an overlooked gem of the Minneapolis Sound, for me anyway. Aside from the whole first side, Some Kind of Lover and A Million Miles are wonderful examples of Prince's 84/85 sound (I really wish those two songs had been given to Sheila for The Glamorous Life; I would gladly trade Next Time Wipe the Lipstick Off Your Collar for them). Finally, In a Spanish Villa is slight, but I love it. It's a very nice close to the album.
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Reply #27 posted 06/21/09 10:08am

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Wildboy said:

BorisFishpaw said:

The Glamorous Life
Sex Shooter
Take Me With U
17 Days
Manic Monday
G-Spot
Oliver's House
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar[Edited 6/18/09 17:03pm]


Holy Crap. This would have been such a strong album. Would have put Vanity on the map forever. I'm making an I tunes tracklist right now. Does a version of 17 Days exist with Vanity/Apples singing?


Unfortunately not, though it was Brenda who sang lead vocals on their
version of 17 Days (just like the song which replaced it; Blue Limousine).
In fact you can still hear her vocals in the background on Prince's version.
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Reply #28 posted 06/21/09 2:28pm

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^

Thanks Boris
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