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Reply #60 posted 06/13/09 8:01pm

JayJai

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pplrain said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Stastistically it is true. For every old man you know who has a healthy kid (no doubt by a younger woman or even possibly with fertility help) there is another old man who has a child with special needs or short term health problems.


http://www.ivf1.com/male-...fertility/
Older men cause infertility
Couples with fertility problems where the male is over 40 have increased difficulty in conceiving.

We know reproductive health is associated with age. Most studies and findings focus on the female age as the determining factor for a successful, healthy pregnancy. While it is true that most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormalities and that this is attributed to the age of a female egg, recent findings suggest that the male age has something to do with infertility and miscarriage rates more than previously thought.

Age and Male Reproduction
Men can reproduce at almost any age because they never stop making sperm. Women, on the other hand, are born with all the eggs they will ever have. This means that the eggs age as the woman ages, which can increase the risk for chromosomal abnormalities in an embryo.

Although the risk for sperm chromosomal abnormalities does not increase as men age, the potential for DNA damage does increase as men age. Sperm are produced from stem cells in the testicles that must keep dividing. In order for the cells to divide, the DNA in these cells must divide as well. Because the DNA is dividing to a larger extent, the chances for a genetic mutation occurring increase over time. Combine this with older females chances for reproductive success and the outcomes for a successful pregnancy are quite low. A study completed in 2002 found that the risk of miscarriage increased in older men but only when the women were also older.


Other Factors affecting male fertility
Other age related factors could contribute to a male’s sperm production and quality. The incidence of vascular diseases, accumulation of toxic substances, and infections all increase with age. Infections actually have been shown to significantly lower sperm counts when compared to men with normal function. Erectile dysfunction could be another cause of male infertility, as this problem also increases with age.
A number of studies have also found an increase in the risk of several types of diseases in children who are born to older men .
Paternal Effect
At a recent conference for the European Society of Human Reproduction (ESHRE) in Barcelona, Spain, Dr. Stephanie Belloc of the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction presented results of a new study regarding the effect of male age on fertility. The study observed a decrease in pregnancy rates and an increase in miscarriage when the father is over 40. For the first time, a strong paternal effect on reproductive outcomes was discovered


omg shut up already.... mad

U forgot "DAMN!!!" lol
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #61 posted 06/13/09 8:11pm

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JayJai said:

pplrain said:



omg shut up already.... mad

U forgot "DAMN!!!" lol


... yep .... DAMN! That's what Prince would say. giggle
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Reply #62 posted 06/14/09 12:26am

frenchylatina

he's probably still searchin for his future baby mama shrug
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Reply #63 posted 06/14/09 12:34am

Close2u

I would love to be the mother of Prince's kids
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Reply #64 posted 06/14/09 12:38am

rafael

Close2u said:

I would love to be the mother of Prince's kids




eyepop
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Reply #65 posted 06/14/09 12:47am

Close2u

I know isan't love intense cool
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Reply #66 posted 06/14/09 2:15am

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My mum had me at 45, and my dad was 50 - and look at what perfect result [see avatar] !.. biggrin

No really, one has to trust nature a little more. Plus these days we have all the scientific/technological progress.





DesireeNevermind said:

ganesh said:




But at least he's got sperm, with a quite young woman the melt can be positive..
51 isn't that old, he's less young that's it



He's not getting any younger. the longer he waits the more risk of birth defect even with a young woman. same for a young man with older woman. if its what he truly wants then he needs to hurry up and do the deed.
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Reply #67 posted 06/14/09 2:21am

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ernestsewell said:

mzkqueen03 said:

..i guess u have 2 look at it in a biology-sense...
...there are formulas..
..how 2 have a smarter baby..
...the sex..the look..the body..the height..the weight..
..have'in a child is a science..


Think about this:


Some people should be required to pee in a cup before they can post lol
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Reply #68 posted 06/14/09 4:40am

Dayclear

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Reply #69 posted 06/14/09 9:47am

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Reply #70 posted 06/14/09 9:49am

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BriaVelveeta said:


falloff.....is that real?
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Reply #71 posted 06/14/09 10:13am

JayJai

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PurpleMedley122 said:

BriaVelveeta said:


falloff.....is that real?

yea...he/she had a second child recently:
http://abcnews.go.com/Hea...756&page=1
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #72 posted 06/14/09 10:41am

mayrain

Only God knows. He might want one but P seems to want things just right before he has a kid with someone. I think he is a traditional man he wants to be marrried to his baby mama smile
Proverbs 23:9
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Reply #73 posted 06/14/09 11:37am

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These threads are the reason we will never see forums or chat in a official Prince site ever again.
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Reply #74 posted 06/14/09 11:45am

piccolo7

that it lm outta here !!!! mad

people dont knw when to stop talking abt these touchy personal stuff...
this should not be talked abt ,,,,l dont think prince will appreciate u all talking abt personal stuff such as this....

let leave it to GOD alone ..only GOD.knows....GOD will knw what he has in store for prince...so please let leave this alone ..... razz confused

we all should move on ..... cool
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Reply #75 posted 06/14/09 11:27pm

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JayJai said:

PurpleMedley122 said:


falloff.....is that real?

yea...he/she had a second child recently:
http://abcnews.go.com/Hea...756&page=1



was born female and she/he kept all her female reproductive organs and her vagina. she got artificially inseminated to give her wife a baby who couldn't have any more kids due to cancer or something like that. not really a big deal when you think about the plumbing. if the parts work and are in good condition... confused
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Reply #76 posted 06/14/09 11:47pm

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Will Michael Jackson ever have a kid?
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #77 posted 06/15/09 6:15am

JayJai

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muirdo said:

Will Michael Jackson ever have a kid?

spit falloff
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #78 posted 06/15/09 6:28am

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BriaVelveeta said:



I discussed him/her at a meeting a while ago biggrin
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Reply #79 posted 06/15/09 6:35am

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DesireeNevermind said:

For those of you sesitive about the subject and think it should never be discussed it almost seems like you are trying to bring shame to the incident and making it out to be this horrific thing that should be swept under the rug.

consider the following:

Prince broadcasted his expected fatherhood back then making it a public matter, writing songs and putting out videos.


When baby Gregory was on his death bed, Prince lied to the public and tried to make everything okay when he could have just kept quiet


Its been several years and Prince has moved on and is no longer held captive by what happened


Lastly, there may be many a Prince fan who is undergoing or has undergone a similar loss and to say it shouldn't ever be discussed may make it harder on them.


Losing a child is nothing to be ashamed of.


thumbs up! I agree. Sounds as if people here never talk about people that have died. So if a family member dies you pretend as if nothing happened and don't mention the person ever again?

Then again, this is not exactly the same and I don't know what more could be said about this subject. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Hopefully fear is not the only thing keeping him from it. He could always adopt. Sometimes I think that's a better idea than just putting even more people into this world.
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Reply #80 posted 06/15/09 6:45am

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DesireeNevermind said:

For those of you sesitive about the subject and think it should never be discussed it almost seems like you are trying to bring shame to the incident and making it out to be this horrific thing that should be swept under the rug.

consider the following:

Prince broadcasted his expected fatherhood back then making it a public matter, writing songs and putting out videos.


When baby Gregory was on his death bed, Prince lied to the public and tried to make everything okay when he could have just kept quiet


Its been several years and Prince has moved on and is no longer held captive by what happened


Lastly, there may be many a Prince fan who is undergoing or has undergone a similar loss and to say it shouldn't ever be discussed may make it harder on them.


Losing a child is nothing to be ashamed of.


I really don't think you needed to bring it to the level you just did. just totally unnecisarry really.
No one said anything about anyone being ashamed of anything....let's not go there ok.
Oi...this thread is/was actually about the future not the past...which is why I didn't personally have an issue with it. To keep the thread on topic lets stick to the future.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #81 posted 06/15/09 8:59am

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VenusBlingBling said:

DesireeNevermind said:

For those of you sesitive about the subject and think it should never be discussed it almost seems like you are trying to bring shame to the incident and making it out to be this horrific thing that should be swept under the rug.

consider the following:

Prince broadcasted his expected fatherhood back then making it a public matter, writing songs and putting out videos.


When baby Gregory was on his death bed, Prince lied to the public and tried to make everything okay when he could have just kept quiet


Its been several years and Prince has moved on and is no longer held captive by what happened


Lastly, there may be many a Prince fan who is undergoing or has undergone a similar loss and to say it shouldn't ever be discussed may make it harder on them.


Losing a child is nothing to be ashamed of.


thumbs up! I agree. Sounds as if people here never talk about people that have died. So if a family member dies you pretend as if nothing happened and don't mention the person ever again?

Then again, this is not exactly the same and I don't know what more could be said about this subject. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Hopefully fear is not the only thing keeping him from it. He could always adopt. Sometimes I think that's a better idea than just putting even more people into this world.




Excellent comments. He could provide a wonderful life for some needy baby/kid. Brangelina and Madge did so why not Prince?

And nope, losing a child or any loved one is nothing shameful and why not talk about it. Past, present, future is all intertwined. Will he have a kid? Does he want one? Maybe or maybe not. And its okay to talk about it cuz he's a man, human like everyone else. Plus he's a mega celebrity so nothing is really sacred.
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Reply #82 posted 06/15/09 9:03am

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i'm 25 weeks pregnant with his love child... i think?! he he
Give what U can, all U can stand, and all of your life will be made!

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Reply #83 posted 06/15/09 9:08am

free0001

Are there any high-profile cases of individuals who claim to be the offspring of Prince? Maybe that should be a new thread, LOL
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Reply #84 posted 06/15/09 9:17am

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free0001 said:

Are there any high-profile cases of individuals who claim to be the offspring of Prince? Maybe that should be a new thread, LOL



we wait 15 years after Metal's magic baby is born biggrin
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Reply #85 posted 06/15/09 9:25am

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DesireeNevermind said:

free0001 said:

Are there any high-profile cases of individuals who claim to be the offspring of Prince? Maybe that should be a new thread, LOL



we wait 15 years after Metal's magic baby is born biggrin



15 years??

Somebody order a sonograph, stat!
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Reply #86 posted 06/15/09 1:44pm

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He almost certainly already has a few, if not several. The public just don't know it. Few sexually active males of his age don't have children unless there's some fertility issue there, which clearly there isn't w/ him. When you add rock star from the mid 70s onwards, that raises the odds considerbly.

My answer is, he does, but we just don't know about it. wink
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Reply #87 posted 06/15/09 8:20pm

free0001

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He almost certainly already has a few, if not several. The public just don't know it. Few sexually active males of his age don't have children unless there's some fertility issue there, which clearly there isn't w/ him. When you add rock star from the mid 70s onwards, that raises the odds considerbly.

My answer is, he does, but we just don't know about it. wink



The stats are on your side Brooksie....I have to agree. Half of the mofo's that you pass by on the street have an unclaimed child. Prince most certainly has at least a half dozen, from Germany to Georgetown, lol.
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Reply #88 posted 06/16/09 2:09am

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brooksie said:

He almost certainly already has a few, if not several. The public just don't know it. Few sexually active males of his age don't have children unless there's some fertility issue there, which clearly there isn't w/ him. When you add rock star from the mid 70s onwards, that raises the odds considerbly.

My answer is, he does, but we just don't know about it. wink


Well, that's definitely not unlikely.
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Reply #89 posted 06/16/09 2:39am

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In Old School Company he sings first comes LOVE then comes Marriage then comes SHORTY (That's him) with the baby carriage!
He has every intention BUT only with the right woman - He's decent and admirable
LOVE always needs to be there FIRST!
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