1 EMINEM RELAPSE 210,984 -65 608,244 820,400
2 GREEN DAY 21ST CENTURY BREAKDOWN 75,845 -54 165,958 456,655
3 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 52,147 -10 58,072 1,004,304
4 MARILYN MANSON HIGH END OF LOW 49,043 999 687 49,730
5 LADY GAGA FAME 45,321 0 45,262 947,653
6 CHESNEY*KENNY GREATEST HITS II 43,375 -51 89,367 132,844
7 WISIN Y YANDEL LA REVOLUCION 35,608 999 52 35,660
8 GRIZZLY BEAR VECKATIMEST 33,424 999 723 34,148
9 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 33,067 3 32,100 3,285,033
10 RASCAL FLATTS UNSTOPPABLE 27,442 -3 28,319 725,215
11 MONTGOMERY GENTRY FOR OUR HEROES 25,933 0 - 25,933
12 COOK*DANE ISOLATED INCIDENT 25,591 -58 60,551 86,328
13 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 22,412 -2 22,893 1,979,510
14 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 21,401 0 21,375 553,521
15 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 21,391 5 20,356 737,513
16 URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 21,311 25 17,115 387,440
17 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 21,215 0 21,276 2,011,976
18 METHOD MAN/REDMAN BLACKOUT 2 20,481 -64 57,289 78,053
19 VARIOUS NOW 30 20,412 -10 22,580 543,470
20 ALDEAN*JASON WIDE OPEN 18,051 -9 19,732 278,884
21 HILLSONG UNITED ACROSS THE EARTH TEAR DOWN THE 17,679 999 141 13,101
22 BUSTA RHYMES BACK ON MY B S 16,714 -72 59,079 76,031
23 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 15,771 0 15,821 2,204,580
24 DYLAN*BOB TOGETHER THROUGH LIFE 15,747 -27 21,532 244,557
25 MOORE*MANDY AMANDA LEIGH 15,657 999 32 15,691
26 MICHELE*CHRISETTE EPIPHANY 14,857 -30 21,181 149,145
27 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 14,848 -12 16,889 311,385
28 P!NK FUNHOUSE 14,650 -8 15,921 1,095,402
29 SHINEDOWN SOUND OF MADNESS 14,640 2 14,349 490,291
30 JUST DANCE! JUST DANCE! 14,390 999 31 14,421
31 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 14,364 -13 16,424 1,200,995
32 ROSS*RICK DEEPER THAN RAP 13,555 -32 19,825 303,847
33 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 12,991 1 12,875 1,619,777
34 STRAIT*GEORGE TROUBADOUR 12,792 313 3,096 876,207
35 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 12,739 -4 13,313 537,753
36 LADY ANTEBELLUM LADY ANTEBELLUM 12,641 0 12,629 594,782
37 PHOENIX WOLFGANG AMADEUS PHOENIX 12,321 304 3,046 30,923
38 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 12,095 -5 12,734 667,074
39 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 11,829 -17 14,193 946,691
40 SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 11,641 13 10,306 4,150,555
41 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 11,620 -12 13,273 592,638
42 VOEGELE*KATE A FINE MESS 11,177 -70 37,441 48,747
43 JOHNSON*JAMEY THAT LONESOME SONG 11,061 19 9,272 458,212
44 AMOS*TORI ABNORMALLY ATTRACTED TO SIN 11,005 -73 41,033 52,423
45 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 10,991 -9 12,033 2,875,078
46 COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 10,709 -36 16,719 1,161,287
47 CLAPTON*ERIC & STEVE WINWOOD LIVE AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN 10,651 -54 22,997 34,092
48 CIARA FANTASY RIDE 10,173 -34 15,527 132,978
49 RICHIE*LIONEL JUST GO 10,116 -48 19,271 29,531
50 FRAY*THE FRAY 9,878 -4 10,251 554,637
51 KEARNEY*MAT CITY OF BLACK & WHITE 9,765 -63 26,364 34,501
52 LAMBERT*ADAM SEASON 8 FAVORITE PERFORMANCES 9,597 -39 15,720 25,317
53 HOLLYWOOD UNDEAD SWAN SONGS 9,408 -2 9,553 399,060
54 SOULJA BOY TELL'EM ISOULJABOYTELLEM 9,331 13 8,274 260,788
55 IRON & WINE AROUND THE WELL 9,290 -50 18,491 28,271
56 JACKSON*ALAN GOOD TIME 9,066 -5 9,588 821,687
57 PERRY*KATY ONE OF THE BOYS 8,777 -4 9,144 1,026,020
58 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 8,422 -11 9,451 910,742
59 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 8,337 -9 9,160 387,178
60 3OH!3 WANT 8,322 -8 9,025 226,770
61 CAM'RON CRIME PAYS 8,036 -48 15,345 66,478
62 KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 7,955 -14 9,278 271,336
63 JADAKISS LAST KISS 7,783 -27 10,696 277,131
64 DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 7,665 219 2,404 62,852
65 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 7,444 -11 8,352 1,947,712
66 DRAMA GANGSTA GRILLZ: THE ALBUM PT. 7,442 -58 17,703 25,266
67 WEST*KANYE 808S & HEARTBREAK 7,343 -3 7,580 1,540,970
68 COLDPLAY VIVA LA VIDA 7,307 -2 7,461 2,476,155
69 LIL' WAYNE THA CARTER III 7,271 13 6,413 3,163,967
70 FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 7,169 -19 8,842 177,091
71 LONELY ISLAND INCREDIBAD 7,027 -13 8,094 186,950
72 PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 7,020 -25 9,369 341,301
73 ADELE 19 6,888 -19 8,536 658,788
74 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS WHEN THE WORLD COMES DOWN 6,689 11 6,015 416,256
75 KID ROCK ROCK N ROLL JESUS 6,474 -4 6,772 2,961,326
76 YUSUF ROADSINGER 6,411 -29 9,061 39,884
77 AKON FREEDOM 6,390 11 5,732 646,401
78 DAUGHTRY DAUGHTRY 6,304 7 5,886 4,456,388
79 COLE*KEYSHIA DIFFERENT ME 6,295 3 6,099 882,659
80 ROTH*ASHER ASLEEP IN THE BREAD AISLE 6,232 -28 8,653 126,958
81 SEETHER FINDING BEAUTY IN NEGATIVE SPA 6,110 2 6,006 743,409
82 SEAL SOUL 6,081 -19 7,507 434,445
83 PICKLER*KELLIE KELLIE PICKLER 5,985 2 5,870 227,883
84 PLAYING FOR CHANGE SONGS AROUND THE WORLD 5,978 -41 10,061 80,201
85 SILVERSUN PICKUPS SWOON 5,933 -9 6,509 95,985
86 YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 5,879 -5 6,198 116,923
87 CURRINGTON*BILLY LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING 5,838 26 4,634 143,098
88 RASCAL FLATTS VOL. 1-GREATEST HITS 5,741 3 5,575 653,559
89 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 5,647 -9 6,174 1,552,810
90 GUCCI MANE MURDER WAS THE CASE 5,635 -33 8,364 31,088
91 INDIA.ARIE VOL. 2-TESTIMONY: LOVE & POLIT 5,560 37 4,071 241,104
92 MARY MARY SOUND, THE 5,272 -2 5,358 249,127
93 MARTIN*STEVE CROW: NEW SONGS FOR THE 5-STRI 5,241 8 4,834 10,087
94 DEPECHE MODE SOUNDS OF THE UNIVERSE 5,182 -21 6,577 136,878
95 PASSION PIT MANNERS 5,120 -50 10,192 15,393
96 KILLERS DAY & AGE 5,107 36 3,745 628,416
97 WALL*PAUL FAST LIFE 5,075 -42 8,745 35,529
98 HAMILTON*ANTHONY POINT OF IT ALL 5,045 11 4,558 378,846
99 CAGE THE ELEPHANT CAGE THE ELEPHANT 5,025 -3 5,157 35,050
100 ELECTRIK RED VOL. 1-HOW TO BE A LADY 4,963 999 37 5,000

A flop or not?

Marrk said:

Not considering it was only available at Target and many who got it thru Lotusflow3r didn't bother with buying the CDs as well.

but on billboard 200 its at 57...down from 55...

Does this count as one cd or as 3 cds?

So, did he shift 340.000 units, or just 113.000 units (1/3 of this)?

What are the rules?

How is this a flop?

This is this weeks chart from the Billboard 200.
Prince sold more than 340000 copies.
For the certification of a platinum or gold record from the RIAA, this means
Lotusflow3r is now a platinum album (3x 340000, more than 100000 records).

I don`t consider it a flop. If you compare the other artists sales, it`s quite good. Not a huge success, but it`s doing quite well for an album without a hit single or no songs at radio or videos on music tv.

And we don`t know about how many people paid 77 $ for the lotusflower site and downloaded the albums there.

One thing i don`t know: in other countries...the imported Lotusflow3r CDS..are they bought from target and count as sold in the US????
[Edited 6/5/09 10:23am]

Nice to see he beat Kellie Pickler and Steve Martin's banjo album!

83 PICKLER*KELLIE KELLIE PICKLER 5,985 2 5,870 227,883

93 MARTIN*STEVE CROW: NEW SONGS FOR THE 5-STRI 5,241 8 4,834 10,087

BigDaddyHQ said:

If you consider the fact that these are worldwide sales, because a lot of people all over the world bought an import, then I would call it a flop.

really annoyed. He has got his $ and cleared off, regardless of your thoughts on the quality of the music this could easily sell much more. He's shifted 340k units through 1 chain store with comparatively little promotion / effort. Has P really reduced his 'art' to a means of making a quick $?. Oh well, add it to the list of projects that had a tonee of potential but were not well executed.

funkyhead said:

I think he truly does not care about CD sales... Concerts is where the money is at...

Prince has never cared about the charts. Ever since he hit the web to sell his music his thing has been putting the music in the hands of the people who wantr it. If you think that a record label has that concern then give Q-tip and Van Hunt a call about the project they had shelved for whatever non musical reasoning. If it's all about getting the music into the hands of those who want it then Prince is number one everytime he drops a cd because anyone who wants it can get it via the web, the paper , at Target or sometimes the wreckastow!

I hate that chart stuff. If Prince doesn't care why do you?
[Edited 6/8/09 6:32am]

If Prince doesn't care about charts, why did he talk about sales of the album being missing from the count during Tavis' interview? Tavis was basically complimenting Prince's ability to hit no.2 on the charts without the help of a major label. Prince totally shrugged off the compliment and ranted about a portion of the sales being missing from the Soundscan totals, as if it were some sort of conspiracy. If he truly doesn't care about charts, he wouldn't have done this.

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[Edited 6/8/09 10:12am]

linus4000 said:

I didn't know there was a new Marilyn Manson album. Is it rocking? Has anybody heard it? I hope it's better than Eat Me, Drink Me.
[Edited 6/8/09 8:58am]

Marrk said:

It sure looks like a flop at this point but who cares? It's an inexpensive triple album of so-so songs. As diehard fans we got our hands on material that never should have seen a release date. Tracks that your friends and family will never give a fck about. That's not how the system is supposed to work, but it did and in our favor. Prince is still in position to blow our minds with a new album in the future (assuming he gets his head together). I'm not going to give Prince sht over this.

If u think, getting paid up front regardless of sales is a flop, u have no idea what artist have 2 go thru. This is 100% a success.

Graycap23 said:

There are people here that will say it was a flop even if it went platinum.

GoldiesParade said:

I see.....

scififilmnerd said:

I like it! But i liked "Eat Me, Drink me" as well Why is it that everybody is ranting so much on "Eat Me, Drink Me"???
I think its his best since "Mechanical Animals". I guess i'm probably the only one in the world who feels so

Sorry for hijacking - back to topic - Prince that is
[Edited 6/8/09 11:56am]

Soulstar77A said:

I dont understand all the dismay?

The Album is a complete FLOP...sure its negativity but
deservedly so.. it wasnt marketed, 1 commercial- 1 place to buy.
A new website that is horrible and overpriced to join + FREE T-shirt..LOL!
1 Music Video
No single released
Jay Leno isnt the ONLY TV show on TV regardless of friendship
Thus proves in the end..Prince isnt that popular anymore.

Its truely sad,...Music Genius Yes....Businessman No.....

GMAN

GMAN2000 said:

And u believe those things were not known going into this?

ludwig said:

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How can it be a flop when it is not widely avalible around the world?
I honestly wonder where some of you have been the last few years.
CD sales are bad for everyone. To see this CD still on the charts with no promotion is pretty good and in addtion I do not think some of you realize that artist are making 4 times the money from these retail deals as they do from ordinary arrangements therefore finanical wise this was not a flop for Prince.

PicassoFace said:

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If he cared that much about how the sales look to the public he would go away and promote the record. Kind of like he did with Musicolgy. Duh

Dude has made his money and moved on.

72 PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 7,020 -25 9,369 341,301
73 ADELE 19 6,888 -19 8,536 658,788

Prince beats an old album from Adele, her album "19" is from early 2008....

ludwig said:

Import sales likely count for a very small portion of Lotuesflow3r's numbers... esp considering it's import cost. It's import sales are not going to outweigh the impact the album's limited availability in the U.S. had, It did something like 170k (apprx) first week alone and those numbers did not include any import sales. Its sales have remained consistent with other CDs on the list during its weeks on the charts.. Also the number excludes (as I mentioned) the Lotusflow3r website numbers while standard release albums count thier internet sales through itunes and such.

No major label backing, no radio support, limited availability... its done well considering. Not a phenomenal success... but far from a flop.

BigDaddyHQ said:

Not true. There were a lot offers from american ebay sellers ON DAY #1 when the album was available at Target. Those guys bought their copies at Target and sold them on ebay from the very beginning. And that's where I have my copy from as well (I live in germany).
[Edited 6/8/09 15:07pm]

^ hey Ludwig, I can tell a similar story, I also bought a copy from an american guy, who got it from Target... I live in Denmark.....

Marrk said:

I think it depends on what metrics you're using. If it's all about the money, then it's not a flop. However, if it's about getting the music out to the maximum number of listeners possible, then that's another story.

audience1 said:

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He really had no chance of getting the music out to the maxium of listeners. Since radio does not play independent artist. He could have promoted it more but all in all in made out like a fat rat.