need i remind you dat Future Baby Mama was #39 on the R&B Charts dats good enough for Prince | |
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TheKing662 said: ernestsewell said: Prince isn't relevant to music anymore. He hasn't been for years.
Dreamer would have made the top 50 if it was promoted right and a single So would a have dozen other songs. Fact is, they didn't for whatever reason. | |
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Smillan said: Is Prince still relevant today? Yes, look at his performances at the O2 and the Superbowl. As far as a live act goes he is still on top form. He's got some exposure recently on TV in the States, look at Jay Leno.
But either he doesn't follow these moments up well / he doesn't seem to be supporting any of these with an album. The Superbowl was blistering hot but no album behind it. When Planet Earth came out he played the shows in London but there was no CD to sell cause it had come out as a free CD in the papers. If he wanted to get big, having a record company behind him, telling him what to do, would be the answer, but does he want this? Probably not I'd say, unless it was a one off. So I guess, referring to the heading, I'd guess that he's making singles, albums, videos for himself or hardcore fans. There are certain missed opportunities, muddled opportunities I feel: a DVD of the O2 performances for example or a one album Lotusflow3r album (rather than the three CDs) Maybe he has the hope that there is the chance that he can make a commercial comeback as an artist again on his own but since Emancipation .... - some great songs (and albums IMHO) but no selling staying power. it's hard 2 promote a album during a tv per4mance when the artist doesn't even do anything new during that per4mance. as compared 2 what bruce springsteen did this year at his per4mance ..PERFORM NEW SHIT not old then u'll have something 2 offer the public. And it shows that u r a relevant act still doing ur craft instead of looking like a nostalgia act. oh wait prince was per4ming in vegas at the time as well man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Everything he did and does... is because of his eccentric personality
why we are here Forever in my life... | |
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zucris said: Everything he did and does... is because of his eccentric personality
why we are here And that's a wrap! Prince's Sarah | |
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mzsadii said: zucris said: Everything he did and does... is because of his eccentric personality
why we are here And that's a wrap! co-sign! I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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JayJai said: mzsadii said: And that's a wrap! co-sign! 1.)Prince isnt mainstream anymore. 2.)Prince fights the 'industry', blackballed himself in the 90's has put a death sentence on his career and music ever sense. Fight the Power, = See Prince in 2009.....non-existent in the charts. The only man to blame is himself... GMAN | |
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prince is an artist. he is creating a lifetime body of work. when he finishes a piece, it may not be up to his standards and he may deem not worthy of releasing to the public so it is never seen or heard. how many pieces of art did rembrandt paint or sketch or etch that nobody ever saw? | |
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musichead said: prince is an artist. he is creating a lifetime body of work. when he finishes a piece, it may not be up to his standards and he may deem not worthy of releasing to the public so it is never seen or heard. how many pieces of art did rembrandt paint or sketch or etch that nobody ever saw?
Then why is he releasing shit? | |
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GMAN2000 said: 1.)Prince isnt mainstream anymore.
2.)Prince fights the 'industry', blackballed himself in the 90's has put a death sentence on his career and music ever sense. Fight the Power, = See Prince in 2009.....non-existent in the charts. The only man to blame is himself... GMAN NAILED IT! | |
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ernestsewell said: musichead said: prince is an artist. he is creating a lifetime body of work. when he finishes a piece, it may not be up to his standards and he may deem not worthy of releasing to the public so it is never seen or heard. how many pieces of art did rembrandt paint or sketch or etch that nobody ever saw?
Then why is he releasing shit? that is your critique. | |
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musichead said: ernestsewell said: Then why is he releasing shit? that is your critique. Doesn't make the question invalid either. | |
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thedance said: blame the media for not playing Prince music.
Not so the media but the industry as a whole. They all work contrary to artistic intent. Money is the only driving power. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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what a stupid question, sorry to be direct. his latest release made the top 200, and we could show you many websites where his vids are discussed.
i guess no more candy for you | |
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PigSkin said: what a stupid question, sorry to be direct. his latest release made the top 200, and we could show you many websites where his vids are discussed.
i guess no more candy for you Oooh, the top 200. Big whoop. He's already lost interest in it. | |
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Shorty said: ernestsewell said: Prince isn't relevant to music anymore. He hasn't been for years.
Ha! that's a funny answer. But that's the truth. Since 1987/88 by the way. We are fans - that's all. Same for the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Paul Mc Cartney, David Byrne, etc. They all make great records, but... | |
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Smillan said:[quote]Is Prince still relevant today? Yes, look at his performances at the O2 and the Superbowl.
wow, he played three covers and three oldies - now that's relevant... maybe someone bought the cd including these smashes, 'purple rain', released in 1984. | |
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TheKing662 said: ernestsewell said: Prince isn't relevant to music anymore. He hasn't been for years.
Dreamer would have made the top 50 if it was promoted right and a single how about a re-release of hendrix' voodoo chile, top 50 for sure... | |
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Graycap23 said: Shorty said: I'd imagine it's because he makes music for himself....it's just a bonus that people like it.
Actually that is closer 2 the truth. agreed "Pedro offers you his protection." | |
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ForbiddenFruit said: Shorty said: Ha! that's a funny answer. But that's the truth. Since 1987/88 by the way. We are fans - that's all. Same for the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Paul Mc Cartney, David Byrne, etc. They all make great records, but... perhaps we should go back and read the thread title...and get back on topic. Cause it's not about if he's "relevant" or not. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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I think he's trying to build a legacy. He is, if anything, prolific. And, unlike his peers, he can speed through projects without the quality suffering so much. There doesn't appear, at least to me, to be any correlation between the speed with which he works and the quality of the music (take for example fans waiting 2 years for the lackluster Musicology, but only a year between gems in the 80s). So my hunch is that he has piles and piles of first rate material in the vault. And, consequently stacks of unreleased videos.
We fans want the music now of course, and hope that he makes it available online. However, I would venture to say Prince might be holding out until he truly retires. There will come a day, and I think even he knows this, in which he'll be too old to tour, perform live with the same vigor, and record a new song every day. When that day comes, I can foresee him releasing all this material with the expectation that the sheer volume and quality of it will shock and amaze the general public. Where peers like Madonna and MJ came on strong in the beginning of their careers, I think Prince is probably looking to have the final say in the end and for posterity. Who amongst his peers would be able to compete with dozens and dozens of unreleased videos (possibly hundreds if you count live footage), and thousands of finished songs? I don't think he wants his music career to fizzle in the same MJ has watched his. I assume Prince wants to pull the rabbit out of his sleeve in the end. I think Prince will eventually release it, but he wants to make a splash. It is hoped that albums like The Dawn and The Divine won't end up being mostly hype and they'll be really mind blowing. History doesn't bode well for those hopes. [Edited 6/9/09 8:08am] | |
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LAWD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!
U think if Prince really cared about his relevancy these days he won't do wat is 'relevant'? The man jus wants to make music and videos that he loves, release to the masses as he pleases, be seen when he wants to, stay indoors and out of the spotlight for as long as he wants, AND HE STILL MAKES MILLIONS! In the end, it's mainly about him... and I still don't get why the way he chooses to go about things seem to bother some ppl. It's kinda funny actually. It's the kinda thing that makes u laugh and shake your head at the same time. I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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piccolo7 is one hundred percent correct. Why would anyone play the video for chocolate box? It's a terrible song. If a DJ put that on in a club he would be thrown out of the booth.
Even when Prince does create a song that could be a top pop single (Black Sweat/Guitar), he lacks that synergy between Radio/TV/Internet that is a MUST in today's music market. Don't think it'll ever happen while he's still on the JW bandwagon "Prince doesn't have verbal diarrhea, he has studio diarrhea...." Allen Leeds | |
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Let's face it. Prince has done everything imaginable to sabotage his own career. Name change, wrong single releases, not touring, blasting the record industry, complaining about artist's rights. I am amazed he is not in exile like Sly Stone with no output at all. He is done as a commercial artist anyway. I believe in his heart he was always an "underground" artist but feeding his ego was a powerful lure and he has always been caught in between. We are a society of measurements. Who has the most top ten hits, who is the best at this or that, who debuted at number one, how many grammys etc. It is tough to resist not putting yourself out there. Whatever he manages to release or let the public hear I am grateful for. Not every piece of art is meant to be sold. Sometimes its just the creation that matters. | |
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dreaminaboutu said: Let's face it. Prince has done everything imaginable to sabotage his own career. Name change, wrong single releases, not touring, blasting the record industry, complaining about artist's rights. I am amazed he is not in exile like Sly Stone with no output at all. He is done as a commercial artist anyway. I believe in his heart he was always an "underground" artist but feeding his ego was a powerful lure and he has always been caught in between. We are a society of measurements. Who has the most top ten hits, who is the best at this or that, who debuted at number one, how many grammys etc. It is tough to resist not putting yourself out there. Whatever he manages to release or let the public hear I am grateful for. Not every piece of art is meant to be sold. Sometimes its just the creation that matters. I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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