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Reply #60 posted 06/10/09 1:48pm

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I love "Adore", in fact I was listening to it this morning but I will never knock anyone for not liking it. I knew someone who didn't like this song and I was initially shocked over that but then I realized that it was cool. We're not going to like the same stuff from Prince. If this song doesn't cut it for you, ok, NEXT. It's really not a big deal if someone doesn't like "Adore".
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #61 posted 06/10/09 2:19pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

TheKing662 said:


i dont get it


Always remember that on the Org... you are NOT allowed to associate any style of music with any culture or demographic of people. To do so means you live in a cave or a hole. In this case, you must submit to the notion that R&B is NOT created by nor listened too primarily by blacks and associated with our culture.

The fact that Adore probably gets played almost every night during the 'Quiet Storm' set list of your local R&B stations means nothing. The fact that in most areas dominated by black culture... it is Prince's slow jams that he is known for, not his other music, is irrelevant here. The fact that Adore has been a night club bump n'grind, 'slow jam' favorite for decades is of no consequence.

All I know is that I could be at a lounge, a club, at the beach. a house party or just cruising by in the car... if Adore comes on I'll hear a unified.. "heyyyyy thats my jam"

I know what you mean... they don't. Shame too. But you're the one who gets labeled closed minded ..living in a hole or cave or something.


That said.... like with all music... some people won't like it just because.. they don;t like it. No real reason why. Its just a matter of personal taste.


Prince is not primarily an 'RnB' artist, and than goodness for that. There are No RnB stations playing 'Quiet storm' type playlists in the UK, Maybe that's our radio stations fault, but in the UK we don't have areas dominated by black culture countrywide, maybe some parts of London, but countrywide? no. we're for the most part a multicultural society, for better, for worse.

On a normal night out, I've not heard Prince in any bar, Nightclub (even ones playing Funk) or pub for at least ten years full stop. He's not popular.

I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day.

But ultimately, you're right in one respect. great song.
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Reply #62 posted 06/10/09 2:41pm

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C'mmon.... wink

people can hate songs like Musicology, Black Sweat, Guitar, Chocolate Box... I don't care that much about THAT... but to hate the classics, that's really tough. I wonder what's wrong with ur tastes/ ears??

Sign O' The Times is a Prince top 3 album, it's among his finest art.... I really don't get how (why?) people can hate anything from this fine album.

It hurts, it hurts.....

next thing people are gonna hate on may be When Doves Cry or Kiss ?

it just doesn't make any sense.... sad
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Reply #63 posted 06/10/09 5:19pm

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Marrk said:

Prince is not primarily an 'RnB' artist, and than goodness for that. There are No RnB stations playing 'Quiet storm' type playlists in the UK, Maybe that's our radio stations fault, but in the UK we don't have areas dominated by black culture countrywide, maybe some parts of London, but countrywide? no. we're for the most part a multicultural society, for better, for worse.

On a normal night out, I've not heard Prince in any bar, Nightclub (even ones playing Funk) or pub for at least ten years full stop. He's not popular.

I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day.

But ultimately, you're right in one respect. great song.


Like you said, you are from the UK and, based on your comment, you know very little about American culture, especially African American culture. As someone who lives in those “areas dominated by black culture,” and I hear both “Do, Me Baby” and “Adore” on either the morning drive shows of adult contemporary black radio or on the quite storm “type” show at least once a week, which is quite interesting since I barely listen to radio. So, it would seem that you should do some research before you make statements about people or places that you do not know. In fact, not only is “Adore” a mainstay on adult contemporary R&B, it is a mainstay at the clubs that I frequent. Just because you live where people don’t like classic R&B—don’t assume that the rest of the world lacks musical taste.

Now the real deal is that we are having this discussion across thousands of miles of sea, so there is no way for me to bring you here. But, it is a very narrow-minded person to assume that just because his culture is devoid of or dislikes something to assume that others feel or act the same. Black American radio may have stopped playing Prince’s new work, but his classic R&B jams have never left the airwaves of black radio and clubs. Thus, your assumption and declaration that BigDaddyHQ’s statement is flawed or a lie is an elitist (borderline racist) or ignorant (uninformed) assumption. You should never make a statement or assumption about someone else’s culture just because you think that your culture is superior or that everyone else’s culture is like yours. And if this is not what you meant, it is certainly what you articulated or inferred.
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Reply #64 posted 06/10/09 8:59pm

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1725topp said:

Marrk said:

Prince is not primarily an 'RnB' artist, and than goodness for that. There are No RnB stations playing 'Quiet storm' type playlists in the UK, Maybe that's our radio stations fault, but in the UK we don't have areas dominated by black culture countrywide, maybe some parts of London, but countrywide? no. we're for the most part a multicultural society, for better, for worse.

On a normal night out, I've not heard Prince in any bar, Nightclub (even ones playing Funk) or pub for at least ten years full stop. He's not popular.

I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day.

But ultimately, you're right in one respect. great song.


Like you said, you are from the UK and, based on your comment, you know very little about American culture, especially African American culture. As someone who lives in those “areas dominated by black culture,” and I hear both “Do, Me Baby” and “Adore” on either the morning drive shows of adult contemporary black radio or on the quite storm “type” show at least once a week, which is quite interesting since I barely listen to radio. So, it would seem that you should do some research before you make statements about people or places that you do not know. In fact, not only is “Adore” a mainstay on adult contemporary R&B, it is a mainstay at the clubs that I frequent. Just because you live where people don’t like classic R&B—don’t assume that the rest of the world lacks musical taste.

Now the real deal is that we are having this discussion across thousands of miles of sea, so there is no way for me to bring you here. But, it is a very narrow-minded person to assume that just because his culture is devoid of or dislikes something to assume that others feel or act the same. Black American radio may have stopped playing Prince’s new work, but his classic R&B jams have never left the airwaves of black radio and clubs. Thus, your assumption and declaration that BigDaddyHQ’s statement is flawed or a lie is an elitist (borderline racist) or ignorant (uninformed) assumption. You should never make a statement or assumption about someone else’s culture just because you think that your culture is superior or that everyone else’s culture is like yours. And if this is not what you meant, it is certainly what you articulated or inferred.


Couldn't have responded better myself. No one said Prince is primarily an R&B artist.. but he started in R&B and still makes R&B, along with every other genre he touches on. But wow! What notion crossed your mind to even comment on a branch of American culture you admittedly have no way of knowing anything about? We have people who live in the U.S. who don't know what goes on in the neighborhoods or even cities they won't dwell... and you're in the U.K...? Your statements were very ignorant, uniformed and presumptuous.

I guess to you a quiet storm would be a lightning bolt popping you in the 'bum' with out the thunder.

I continue to be amazed how so many people on these forums cannot comprehend a world which doesn't exist according to their limited viewpoint on life..
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Reply #65 posted 06/11/09 2:40am

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Don't know, just find it a bit middle of the road. I remember first hearing it on The Hits and preferring Pink Cashmere, which it was next to on the album.
I personally prefer crucial. I don't hate it though, I like it but not to a huge extent.
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Reply #66 posted 06/11/09 2:51am

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BigDaddyHQ said:

1725topp said:



Like you said, you are from the UK and, based on your comment, you know very little about American culture, especially African American culture. As someone who lives in those “areas dominated by black culture,” and I hear both “Do, Me Baby” and “Adore” on either the morning drive shows of adult contemporary black radio or on the quite storm “type” show at least once a week, which is quite interesting since I barely listen to radio. So, it would seem that you should do some research before you make statements about people or places that you do not know. In fact, not only is “Adore” a mainstay on adult contemporary R&B, it is a mainstay at the clubs that I frequent. Just because you live where people don’t like classic R&B—don’t assume that the rest of the world lacks musical taste.

Now the real deal is that we are having this discussion across thousands of miles of sea, so there is no way for me to bring you here. But, it is a very narrow-minded person to assume that just because his culture is devoid of or dislikes something to assume that others feel or act the same. Black American radio may have stopped playing Prince’s new work, but his classic R&B jams have never left the airwaves of black radio and clubs. Thus, your assumption and declaration that BigDaddyHQ’s statement is flawed or a lie is an elitist (borderline racist) or ignorant (uninformed) assumption. You should never make a statement or assumption about someone else’s culture just because you think that your culture is superior or that everyone else’s culture is like yours. And if this is not what you meant, it is certainly what you articulated or inferred.


Couldn't have responded better myself. No one said Prince is primarily an R&B artist.. but he started in R&B and still makes R&B, along with every other genre he touches on. But wow! What notion crossed your mind to even comment on a branch of American culture you admittedly have no way of knowing anything about? We have people who live in the U.S. who don't know what goes on in the neighborhoods or even cities they won't dwell... and you're in the U.K...? Your statements were very ignorant, uniformed and presumptuous.

I guess to you a quiet storm would be a lightning bolt popping you in the 'bum' with out the thunder.

I continue to be amazed how so many people on these forums cannot comprehend a world which doesn't exist according to their limited viewpoint on life..


Wow, a mountain out of a mole-hill.

I don't know how you guys can read so much, into a few relatively harmless comments. i certainly didn't imply any culture is greater than another, that's not in my book.

when all is said and done, i'm not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it (the fucking radio for crying out loud!). But the fact i don't know intricately about this small part of your culture makes me borderline racist/genocidal? please! look at yourselves. rolleyes

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Reply #67 posted 06/11/09 3:01am

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WetDream said:

DevotedPuppy said:

sigh

:::cracks knuckles:::

I wish Housequake was still up, because I know I posted there why I consider Adore to be Prince's most overrated song. I am not a "hater" (I don't "hate," it requires too much energy); but I always skip Adore (and didn't add it to my mp3 player).

It seems too insincere or phony to me. Like he is saying all the 'right' lines that he thinks girls want to hear just so he can get some play. It's like he's trying to buy red roses, chocolates, lingerie, etc. because that's what society says is 'romantic' and girls like but they're just cheesey tokens, and superficial in the sense that's it's only for show or on the surface. There is no deeper thought behind it. The girl is interchangeable to him.

Plus I'm not a fan of slow, sappy, love songs in general. shrug

On that album, I actually think Forever in My Life is the more sincere love song. Adore is like the player throwing lines, Forever in My Life is the guy who has finally realized he's met the one person he wants 'forever in his life'.



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[Edited 6/5/09 14:40pm]


That is a fantastic look at the song and has made me look at the song differently. Thats a first! i also think your right about Forever in My Life.

Yes, im one who loves slow jams too and Adore is one of the best but, these are great points.
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Ha! Surely that's the point of why Prince is great. It an't nothing to do with how sincere he is. Adore is a classic example of Prince [b]hamming it up, which he does superbly. It features one of his most genuinely funny moments ("Maybe not the ride..." etc.).

Musically it's top-notch 80's Prince: programmed drums, hammond organ, layers of gospel BV's, and... but of course... sitar!

Dayyyuuuumm!!!!!
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Reply #68 posted 06/11/09 6:28am

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Marrk said:

BigDaddyHQ said:



Couldn't have responded better myself. No one said Prince is primarily an R&B artist.. but he started in R&B and still makes R&B, along with every other genre he touches on. But wow! What notion crossed your mind to even comment on a branch of American culture you admittedly have no way of knowing anything about? We have people who live in the U.S. who don't know what goes on in the neighborhoods or even cities they won't dwell... and you're in the U.K...? Your statements were very ignorant, uniformed and presumptuous.

I guess to you a quiet storm would be a lightning bolt popping you in the 'bum' with out the thunder.

I continue to be amazed how so many people on these forums cannot comprehend a world which doesn't exist according to their limited viewpoint on life..


Wow, a mountain out of a mole-hill.

I don't know how you guys can read so much, into a few relatively harmless comments. i certainly didn't imply any culture is greater than another, that's not in my book.

when all is said and done, i'm not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it (the fucking radio for crying out loud!). But the fact i don't know intricately about this small part of your culture makes me borderline racist/genocidal? please! look at yourselves. rolleyes

crazy. neutral

Part of the problem which exist now-a-days is how people can casually make remarks and they really have no clue as to why they were offensive.

what reaction did you really expect after some one makes open and honest comments trying to enlighten others as to how Prince and some of his music (slow jamns in thie case) is viewed in thier culture... and your remarks are....

"I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day."

You basically called me a liar about matters you have no clue about. Your statements came across as being racially insensitive because as you said you were.. "not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it". The problem is that whether you're talking R&B, Jazz, Funk, Gospel, The Blues, Hip-Hop or any sub-genre of... music in African American culture is huge. There really isn't too much bigger than music.

Love songs.. ie the 'slow jams'... tend to have tremendous staying power on our radio, in our clubs, in our homes... everywhere. And this includes Prince's slow jams of which Adore happens to be considered one of the greatest. And I'm not saying that every African American is all into R&B and slow jamz... but those who aren't know this to be the general truth.

Essence Magazine,by sheer coincidence... just published a list of the 25 Best Slow Jams of All Time. Guess what song is #11
Essence.com

Please don't tell me you never heard of Essence because it must not be too popular since its not on the rack where you buy your magazines.
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Reply #69 posted 06/11/09 6:39am

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"Adore" is one of the greatest songs that Prince has ever created.It's extremely soulful and heartfelt...he sounds like he's seriously in love.The music,the arrangement,the vocal harmonies....it's just amazing! In my area,this song received tremendous airplay on the R&B stations,even though it never became a single.
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Reply #70 posted 06/11/09 7:09am

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BigDaddyHQ said:

Marrk said:



Wow, a mountain out of a mole-hill.

I don't know how you guys can read so much, into a few relatively harmless comments. i certainly didn't imply any culture is greater than another, that's not in my book.

when all is said and done, i'm not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it (the fucking radio for crying out loud!). But the fact i don't know intricately about this small part of your culture makes me borderline racist/genocidal? please! look at yourselves. rolleyes

crazy. neutral

Part of the problem which exist now-a-days is how people can casually make remarks and they really have no clue as to why they were offensive.

what reaction did you really expect after some one makes open and honest comments trying to enlighten others as to how Prince and some of his music (slow jamns in thie case) is viewed in thier culture... and your remarks are....

"I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day."

You basically called me a liar about matters you have no clue about. Your statements came across as being racially insensitive because as you said you were.. "not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it". The problem is that whether you're talking R&B, Jazz, Funk, Gospel, The Blues, Hip-Hop or any sub-genre of... music in African American culture is huge. There really isn't too much bigger than music.

Love songs.. ie the 'slow jams'... tend to have tremendous staying power on our radio, in our clubs, in our homes... everywhere. And this includes Prince's slow jams of which Adore happens to be considered one of the greatest. And I'm not saying that every African American is all into R&B and slow jamz... but those who aren't know this to be the general truth.

Essence Magazine,by sheer coincidence... just published a list of the 25 Best Slow Jams of All Time. Guess what song is #11
Essence.com

Please don't tell me you never heard of Essence because it must not be too popular since its not on the rack where you buy your magazines.


Sure i have, Vibe too! wink and i get you're trying to be an ass with your last comment, hell i used to buy Black Beat and Right On! on import back in the early 80's.

But, i take back the above paragraph you quoted, An unreserved apology to you for that.

But there is a peanut gallery here! lol
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Reply #71 posted 06/11/09 7:38am

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I heart this song. How many people here know the lyrics word for word and sang along, and pretty badly too lol
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Reply #72 posted 06/11/09 7:43am

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There are 'Adore' haters? Really?!? I don't believe it....
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Reply #73 posted 06/11/09 8:04am

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Marrk said:

Prince is not primarily an 'RnB' artist, and than goodness for that. There are No RnB stations playing 'Quiet storm' type playlists in the UK, Maybe that's our radio stations fault, but in the UK we don't have areas dominated by black culture countrywide, maybe some parts of London, but countrywide? no. we're for the most part a multicultural society, for better, for worse.

On a normal night out, I've not heard Prince in any bar, Nightclub (even ones playing Funk) or pub for at least ten years full stop. He's not popular.

I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day.

But ultimately, you're right in one respect. great song.



Lived in UK 4 over 20 yrs, and still cant believe Prince is not played on Radio.

There are certainly no R&B stations playing any Prince jams, and i am not sure they ever have.

Our commercial Radio 1's and Capital FM's play the odd kiss or 1999 like once every 5 months or so?

Wutzup wit that?? Always wondered y?
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Reply #74 posted 06/11/09 8:45am

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Marrk said:

BigDaddyHQ said:


Part of the problem which exist now-a-days is how people can casually make remarks and they really have no clue as to why they were offensive.

what reaction did you really expect after some one makes open and honest comments trying to enlighten others as to how Prince and some of his music (slow jamns in thie case) is viewed in thier culture... and your remarks are....

"I'd wager your whole "Heeeyyyy, that's my jam" paragraph is wishful fantasy and preaching to the peanut gallery. I'd be amazed if you heard 'Adore' in all those different places anytime recently. It's an old album track at the end of the day."

You basically called me a liar about matters you have no clue about. Your statements came across as being racially insensitive because as you said you were.. "not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it". The problem is that whether you're talking R&B, Jazz, Funk, Gospel, The Blues, Hip-Hop or any sub-genre of... music in African American culture is huge. There really isn't too much bigger than music.

Love songs.. ie the 'slow jams'... tend to have tremendous staying power on our radio, in our clubs, in our homes... everywhere. And this includes Prince's slow jams of which Adore happens to be considered one of the greatest. And I'm not saying that every African American is all into R&B and slow jamz... but those who aren't know this to be the general truth.

Essence Magazine,by sheer coincidence... just published a list of the 25 Best Slow Jams of All Time. Guess what song is #11
Essence.com

Please don't tell me you never heard of Essence because it must not be too popular since its not on the rack where you buy your magazines.


Sure i have, Vibe too! wink and i get you're trying to be an ass with your last comment, hell i used to buy Black Beat and Right On! on import back in the early 80's.

But, i take back the above paragraph you quoted, An unreserved apology to you for that.

But there is a peanut gallery here! lol
[Edited 6/11/09 7:12am]


There's not really a peanut gallery here...Just folks who understand that "Adore" is a classic song in certain circles...And that some people have a hard time understanding this...

Now, I agree that some folks went a little crazy with the whole "Adore haters" tag...Indeed, people should be allowed to dislike something if they have no use for it....However, it's just that when I read people describe "Adore" as "syrupy" or as "wedding song" it seems like have no idea what they are talking about...lol

That's like saying you don't like Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" because it sounds like heavy metal records....It's nothing more than a lack of understanding of someone else's culture...
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Reply #75 posted 06/11/09 8:51am

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mostbeautifulboy said:

TheKing662 said:



i think Adore is the theme for black people



Whats the theme for white people?
eek

Whats the theme for asian people
eek

Whats the theme for arab people?
eek


Adore is a beautiful song for everyone biggrin



Right The Wrong is the theme for Native American people.

Te Amo Corazon is the theme for Latin Americans.

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Reply #76 posted 06/11/09 8:57am

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I love Adore. I disagree with the post that claims it's insincere.

I don't think his insincere love songs started until much, much later - hell, probably about 15 years later. Adore is one of the best ballads, and one that doesn't fall into one of Prince's "templates".

I'll give u my heart
I'll give u my mind
I'll give u my body
I'll give u my time


and I love how at that end of every line he sorta half-laughs "heh".
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Reply #77 posted 06/11/09 2:55pm

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Seriously why hate on the haters?? confuse

Some tried to love/like the song and get into it...me well I dont hate it at all, Im just not into it like some are.....make sence?
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Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #78 posted 06/11/09 4:53pm

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Se7en said:

I love Adore. I disagree with the post that claims it's insincere.

I don't think his insincere love songs started until much, much later - hell, probably about 15 years later. Adore is one of the best ballads, and one that doesn't fall into one of Prince's "templates".

I'll give u my heart
I'll give u my mind
I'll give u my body
I'll give u my time


and I love how at that end of every line he sorta half-laughs "heh".


I'll give u chocolate
I'll give u red roses
I'll give u all the cliche' romantic things
Because I just want to get in your pants


whistle

If some guy tried to use lines from Adore on me, I'd straight up laugh in his face; they are SO corny that I couldn't possibly take them seriously. But I guess that works on some people.
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Reply #79 posted 06/11/09 8:38pm

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Adore is amazing!!
it is classic, beautiful, and it is allways a pleasure for Prince , or any man for that matter, to hold a woman in such lite..beautiful...
even though i miss Prince's naughty side...there is much more he can still grace us with..like his Jazz and ballads...rock on Prince!!!
Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning
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Reply #80 posted 06/11/09 9:28pm

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Tame said:

I remember "The Quiet Storm," from Cleveland's WZAK...Where are U from BigDaddyHQ? cool


Hey, I do too, I live in Cleveland (been here all my life). WZAK was my station back then.
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Reply #81 posted 06/11/09 9:30pm

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Angelic1302 said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again! My favorite of all time! I cry every time I hear it.


Me too, especially at the end of the song, when Prince starts singing in his falsetto - ohhhhh! Makes me tear up every time. sigh
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Reply #82 posted 06/11/09 10:58pm

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Adore is a good song, but I've never really understood the gushing over it - It's just never struck me as anything too special.
I've seen the future, and boy it's rough...
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Reply #83 posted 06/11/09 11:11pm

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MantuaPharoah said:

WHY?

I just NEED to know!

Many Prince fans consider this to be Prince's best song. There's even one website that I found that proclaims this to be the 2nd best R&B ballad EVER!

(#1 was A Song for You by Donnie Hathaway)


What's your reason for not liking Adore, or at least claiming it to be average and not all that? The lyrics? The music? The falsetto? The organ The chorus?

Whatever the reason, I'd love to know!!

To me, it's the greatest song in the history of MUSIC! (Maybe it's people making outrageous claims like that which cause you to not like Adore.)

Whatever the reason... now is your chance

What's your problem with the song????

Because in my opinion, it's an audible and expressive work of art.


I don't like the organ and the whoops he sings. Even the tone and tempo that he sings and then harmonzies himself... It sounds too gospel to me.
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Reply #84 posted 06/11/09 11:14pm

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Byron said:

Two reasons to absolutely love "Adore":

"I ain't fuckin' just for kicks..."

And

"Well, maybe not the ride..."



the best line period! The only reason I will actually let the song play.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #85 posted 06/11/09 11:45pm

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Marrk said:

Wow, a mountain out of a mole-hill.

I don't know how you guys can read so much, into a few relatively harmless comments. i certainly didn't imply any culture is greater than another, that's not in my book.

when all is said and done, i'm not talking about an entire culture, just a small part of it (the fucking radio for crying out loud!). But the fact i don't know intricately about this small part of your culture makes me borderline racist/genocidal? please! look at yourselves. rolleyes

crazy. neutral


First, your last two posts remind me of when I hear a white person say, "Hey, don't be offended by my words...some of my best friends are black..." as if purchasing a few black records and magazines somehow balances prejudice if not racist language. Now, I stated in my last post that you may not have meant or intended to be prejudice or racist, but that is what you accomplished.

Secondly, you call someone a liar--someone you don't know, which means you have no proof of their particular experience, but you feel, for some reason, that you have the "right" to call him a liar, and then have the nerve to wonder why he or someone else who shares that particular experience is offended. Then, you top it off by saying that they are being racist for being offended that someone who does not know them or their experience feels that he has the "right" to make assumptions about their experience. Taking into consideration all that you have said and done, if you were not being racist or offensive, what would you call it? Or at least tell me how you feel that you have the "right" to make declarations about people's lives, cultures, or existences without having properly studied them other than feeling that their culture or experience is so marginal that it could not possible be unlike yours.

It is cool to say, "Well, in my hometown Prince isn't played on the radio." But, you went a step further and asserted that BigDaddyHQ must be lying because he is asserting that he lives a different existence than you. Your words are no different than when White Americans say, "Well, we don't have problems with racial profiling or police brutality in our neighborhood, so black people must be lying." Whether it is a major or minor point/issue, when you make false or flawed assumptions about someone else's culture or claim that someone is lying about their cultural experience because it is foreign to you, you are putting yourself in a position of superiority even if it is not your intent to do so.

You said that your comments are harmless. How is it harmless to call someone a liar when you don't know them or their experience? And how is it not elitist or prejudice or racist to assume that just because something doesn't exist in your world of experiences that it must not exist in somebody else's world of experiences? You said that you are a historian. Is that the same type of historian who denies that Africans had a civilization before contact with whites? Is that the same type of historian who denies that Elvis and Pat Boone stole from black culture? Just as these two lies were perpetuated due to people not doing their homework, so is your lie about Prince's music continuing to be on black radio, especially songs like "Do Me, Baby" and "Adore."

So, you can put all the icon faces you want on your posts and claim that we are overreacting, but you were the one who called someone a liar with no basis or merit to substantiate your declaration, and when you do that we are left to wonder or assume why you would feel so comfortable in denying if not marginalizing someone else’s cultural experience.
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Reply #86 posted 06/12/09 5:44am

lagantest

i am not a fan of adore. infact i have never listened to it all the way through and never put it on my ipod. However i am very open minded with his music for the fact that i could not like a song for a long time and then one day i hear the genius. And so i know one day this will happen with me. Infact i am going to get my sign o' the times album out tomorrow and listen to that track loud and see if my opinion has changed!! i hope so. At the moment it just doesn't grab me. But i will report back on monday to tell you lot how my latest experience with it is.
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Reply #87 posted 06/12/09 12:29pm

acjohns

I remember hearing adore alot in new orleans radio stations when it was out.Even my Uncle who is a minister had adore turned up very loud LOLOLO alot of people down south absolutely loved that song. Ithink many women love not only adore but many of prince's slow songs/ballads.Most guys dont like to hear his ballads unless they are trying to get it on with their girlfriends.
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Reply #88 posted 06/12/09 12:48pm

MantuaPharoah

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nayroo2002 said:

"Adore" is, like many said before, a classic.

I find it even more intriguing that there is no guitar in the song, although it has a very organic production (except for the Linn).

But, if you've ever heard "All That" from Carmen Electra, one wonders just how much Prince respected the song himself... hmmm

Prost!


I have NO IDEA what Prince was thinking when Prince let Carmen Electra use the music from Adore for "All That". That's the WEAKEST peace of lyrical spewage I've EVER HEARD! Talk about sappy... that's just corny and a pop culture train wreck!

All I can say is that for Prince to allow Carmen to use Adore, she must have had the ILL NA NA, and been givin' to our man somethin' AWESOMELY FIERCE!!!

Prince must have been "p*ssy whipped" to levels unknown!
The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else!
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Reply #89 posted 06/12/09 12:54pm

MantuaPharoah

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prodigalfan said:

MantuaPharoah said:

WHY?

I just NEED to know!

Many Prince fans consider this to be Prince's best song. There's even one website that I found that proclaims this to be the 2nd best R&B ballad EVER!

(#1 was A Song for You by Donnie Hathaway)


What's your reason for not liking Adore, or at least claiming it to be average and not all that? The lyrics? The music? The falsetto? The organ The chorus?

Whatever the reason, I'd love to know!!

To me, it's the greatest song in the history of MUSIC! (Maybe it's people making outrageous claims like that which cause you to not like Adore.)

Whatever the reason... now is your chance

What's your problem with the song????

Because in my opinion, it's an audible and expressive work of art.


I don't like the organ and the whoops he sings. Even the tone and tempo that he sings and then harmonzies himself... It sounds too gospel to me.



The gospel sound is part of the charm. He's diggin' chick on some holy level.

No offense, I respect all opinions... but I think that some people who think that this song is nothing special, simply haven't "studied" this song.

It's perfect on so many levels that are beyond the obvious.

I feel like Charlie Murphy when he said "I CHALLENGE you to play Prince in a game of basketball. I CHALLENGE YOU!!!"

With that being said... I CHALLENGE nay sayers of Adore to study the song... every little ethereal nook and cranny. I CHALLENGE YOU!!!!

The song is not at all cheesy.

Listen to the way Prince says "When we be makin' love..." in the second verse.

Have you ever heard the word "love" pronounced so beautifully. What he means here is that it's the most amazingly beautifull thing he's ever experienced! Listen to it!!!!!

Like I said... I CHALLENGE YOU to study Adore, nay sayers!! I CHALLENGE YOU!!!!!
The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else!
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