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Thread started 06/04/09 8:36am

whistle

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Money Don't Matter 2 Night

this is probably my least favorite Prince single ever, and i can't figure out why. i want to say 'it's not what i listen to Prince for', but what does that mean? is it because it's about social/political issues? i loved Sign O' The Times as a single, it didn't even bother me that he wasn't in the video, but for Money Don't Matter, it irritated me.

i can't call Money Don't Matter a bad song, it just seems like a downer. i loved everything else on D&P (except Jughead, naturally).

what do you think? am i the only one who doesn't like it?
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Reply #1 posted 06/04/09 8:39am

shonenjoe

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I don't really dig Diamonds and Pearls much, but this was the first song I heard from it via cassette single...

And compared to the other stuff on that album, it's fantastic. It's midtempo and minimal, it's refreshing how restrained it is next to the rest of the album. It's too long and the lyrics aren't really remarkable, but otherwise, I've always liked this song.
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Reply #2 posted 06/04/09 8:41am

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Shows how different we all are, this is one of my all time favorite Prince singles.
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Reply #3 posted 06/04/09 8:59am

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This is one of the best songs on Diamonds And Pearls in my opinion. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 06/04/09 9:56am

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So I was humming this in my head and then it inexplicably turned into "And God Created Woman"... very similar vibe (yet completely different subjects).

It's a great tune, I would say it's also very overlooked (maybe because it follows Jughead).



whistle, you may not like it because at the time, we were just given "Gett Off" and "Cream" as singles that rocked all summer, then we got "Money Don't Matter 2Night"... you're right, certainly a downer. The video didn't help matters either. Plus "Call the Law" ranks pretty low on the B-side scale.
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Reply #5 posted 06/04/09 10:01am

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the spike lee version of the video could still b played in this day and age

"president mr president where r the jobs mr president? economic recovery? yeah what happend?"
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #6 posted 06/04/09 10:05am

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I really like this song.

I remember back in the day reading in some muso magazine about the chord structure for this song, the journalist suggested there were some Steely Dan influences going on!

The only thing that irks me though are the distorted vocals, I know Prince deliberately left them on but I don't think it adds anything to the track.
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Reply #7 posted 06/04/09 10:10am

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Dave1992 said:

This is one of the best songs on Diamonds And Pearls in my opinion. shrug

I agree with u Dave. This and "Willing and Able" are the true masterpieces on that album to me.
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Reply #8 posted 06/04/09 10:24am

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djfine said:


I remember back in the day reading in some muso magazine about the chord structure for this song, the journalist suggested there were some Steely Dan influences going on!



I never thought of it before (I'm not a musician, so I don't understand chord progressions) but I can totally hear Steely Dan in this song.
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Reply #9 posted 06/04/09 11:34am

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I love Money Don't matter.., and have always done so,

it has the sweet pop sound of a Beatles song, imo... heart

and it's a political song against poverty, starvation and the 1st war in the gulf - isn't it?.....
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Reply #10 posted 06/04/09 11:38am

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djdaffy1227 said:

Shows how different we all are, this is one of my all time favorite Prince singles.

Mine too. I nearly passed out when he played it during the soundcheck I went to for the ONA tour clapping
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Reply #11 posted 06/04/09 11:39am

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daPrettyman said:

Dave1992 said:

This is one of the best songs on Diamonds And Pearls in my opinion. shrug

I agree with u Dave. This and "Willing and Able" are the true masterpieces on that album to me.

I would put strollin in there too. nod
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Reply #12 posted 06/04/09 11:55am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

daPrettyman said:


I agree with u Dave. This and "Willing and Able" are the true masterpieces on that album to me.

I would put strollin in there too. nod

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Reply #13 posted 06/04/09 12:23pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

daPrettyman said:


I agree with u Dave. This and "Willing and Able" are the true masterpieces on that album to me.

I would put strollin in there too. nod


Bar 'Push' this whole album is great for me.

Yeah thats right: even Jughead wink
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Reply #14 posted 06/04/09 12:25pm

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djfine said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I would put strollin in there too. nod


Bar 'Push' this whole album is great for me.

Yeah thats right: even Jughead wink

Push is one of my favorites from that album underattedly funky with a strong message. Of course the vibe is different but if we are talkin masterpieces then Sacrifice of Victor is tops! clapping
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Reply #15 posted 06/04/09 12:33pm

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It's one of the better tracks on the album, and hinted at some of the stuff you were going hear from Prince in the future. (old school sound).

It actually fits better into Musicology than it does D&P, honestly.


I never liked D&P, but it does have a few standout songs, and it revived Prince's career at a time it was sagging after his artistically and commercially disastrous Graffiti Bridge episode. lol (before anyone knocks me, I do like several tracks from Graffiti Bridge rolleyes )
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Reply #16 posted 06/04/09 1:02pm

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I see your point about it not being what you listen to Prince for, I feel that way about some tracks, but MDM2N is one of the strongest tracks on D&P and one of his most mature singles IMO.

I love sound of tracks on D&P like this, Strollin' and Willing & Able - makes me wonder why stuff like Jughead and Push are on there - where the hell were tracks like 'Open Book'? That's Prince though right.
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Reply #17 posted 06/04/09 1:09pm

datdude

i thought this would be an appreciation thread for MDM2N. It NEEDS to be. classic Prince curveball of a single, cats only remember the sexy/funky stuff. gotta let 'em know every once in a while, life ain't always a party. few ppl i know APPRECIATE the political prince, let alone the SPIRITUAL Prince
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Reply #18 posted 06/04/09 1:12pm

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oh well. shows you what i know. maybe i need to go back and listen to it a few dozen times. smile
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Reply #19 posted 06/04/09 1:20pm

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NouveauDance said:

I see your point about it not being what you listen to Prince for, I feel that way about some tracks, but MDM2N is one of the strongest tracks on D&P and one of his most mature singles IMO.

I love sound of tracks on D&P like this, Strollin' and Willing & Able - makes me wonder why stuff like Jughead and Push are on there - where the hell were tracks like 'Open Book'? That's Prince though right.



Definitely! nod



I think the music captures the feeling of the lyrics perfectly well; the whole throw-away attitude of a gambler who has already lost anyway in a dark night and the whole story.. I start realising that I like it even more than I already thought I would lol
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Reply #20 posted 06/04/09 1:36pm

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Dave1992 said:

NouveauDance said:

I see your point about it not being what you listen to Prince for, I feel that way about some tracks, but MDM2N is one of the strongest tracks on D&P and one of his most mature singles IMO.

I love sound of tracks on D&P like this, Strollin' and Willing & Able - makes me wonder why stuff like Jughead and Push are on there - where the hell were tracks like 'Open Book'? That's Prince though right.



Definitely! nod



I think the music captures the feeling of the lyrics perfectly well; the whole throw-away attitude of a gambler who has already lost anyway in a dark night and the whole story.. I start realising that I like it even more than I already thought I would lol


Now you know why I started crying when he played this during the soundcheck! Something I never thought I'd ever hear him play live.

One more card and its 22
Unlucky 4 him again
He never had respect 4 money its true
Thats why he never wins
Thats why he never ever has enough
2 treat his lady right
He just pushes her away in a huff
And says money dont matter 2 night

Money dont matter 2 night
It sure didnt matter yesterday
Just when u think uve got more than enough
Thats when it all up and flies away
Thats when u find out that ure better off
Makin sure your souls alright
Cuz money didnt matter yesterday,
And it sure dont matter 2 night

Look, heres a cool investment
Theyre tellin him he just cant lose
So he goes off and tries to find a partner
But all he finds are users (users)
All he finds are snakes in ever color
Every nationality and size
Seems like the only thing he can do
Is just roll his eyes, and say that...

Money dont matter 2 night (dont matter)
It sure didnt matter yesterday
Just when u think uve got more than enough
Thats when it all up and flies away
Thats when u find out that ure better off
Makin sure your souls alright (souls alright)
Cuz money didnt matter yesterday, (dont matter)
And it sure dont matter 2 night

(ooh-wee-ooh, dont matter)
(it dont matter 2 night, no)

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason
2 send a child off 2 war
So what if were controllin all the oil,
Is it worth a child dying 4? (is it worth it? )
If long life is what we all live 4
Then long life will come 2 pass
Anything is better than the picture of the child
In a cloud of gas
And u think u got it bad...


All topped off with a child in a cloud of gas.

stop

and

think

about

it


This is an amazing song with a moral and I will take something like this over the obligatory talk about what's between his broad's legs.

Yes, let's appreciate this song!clapping
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Reply #21 posted 06/04/09 1:40pm

Dave1992

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Reply #22 posted 06/04/09 1:50pm

remko

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I must say i like this song.

i remember being in Poland, 1992 ro 1993. in some kind of Eastern Europe dance club (?)
I asked the DJ to play some prince.... The MF played Money don't matter. Like is is a song to dance 2.... headbang

so no, everytime I hear that song, it brings me back to that dancefloor in Cracow and me and a firnd of mine just not knowing what to do....
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Reply #23 posted 06/04/09 2:21pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Now you know why I started crying when he played this during the soundcheck! Something I never thought I'd ever hear him play live.



Hey which soundcheck was this?

I'd love to hear it - I never got over him cutting it short on the Aladdin show sad
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Reply #24 posted 06/04/09 2:21pm

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djfine said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Now you know why I started crying when he played this during the soundcheck! Something I never thought I'd ever hear him play live.



Hey which soundcheck was this?

I'd love to hear it - I never got over him cutting it short on the Aladdin show sad

ONA LA, April 2000 or 2001. Can't remember the exact timeline lol
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Reply #25 posted 06/04/09 2:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

djfine said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Hey which soundcheck was this?

I'd love to hear it - I never got over him cutting it short on the Aladdin show sad

ONA LA, April 2000 or 2001. Can't remember the exact timeline lol


Thanks dude

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Reply #26 posted 06/04/09 2:41pm

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I like the track and the video
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Reply #27 posted 06/04/09 4:31pm

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It's the only song I skip on the cd. I liked it at the time, just not now.
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Reply #28 posted 06/04/09 4:49pm

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Funny how tastes differ.

I consider it as on of his strongest singles from the '90's. Not as innovative as his singles from the '80's, its more 'traditional' and kept down to one music-style, but definitely well-written and played.

It reminds me a lot of Stevie Wonders music, BTW.
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Reply #29 posted 06/04/09 6:34pm

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I Love, "Diamonds and Pearls," and "Jughead," is a fun song. cool
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