serpan99 said: I'm going 2 buy the whole set!
There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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xenophobia2002 said: serpan99 said: I'm going 2 buy the whole set!
There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw Sorry?....Source? thanx | |
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Giovanni777 said: Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously. No it wasn't! The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is probably where the confusion has come from). But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl versions is because they DID master them from the same source material, but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts. [Edited 6/20/09 8:02am] | |
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love2thenines2003 said: xenophobia2002 said: There will also be a European release for all albums (mine sleeved etc), which will be much cheaper btw Sorry?....Source? thanx why ??? It is like it is I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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xenophobia2002 said: love2thenines2003 said: Sorry?....Source? thanx why ??? It is like it is " Why Not but it is not so important "in fine" ! | |
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squirrelgrease said: EmeraldSkies said: I caved,and bought a couple of these.They look interesting.
Give us a review when you get them. You expect me to actually play them? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Giovanni777 said: Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously. No it wasn't! The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is probably where the confusion has come from). But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl versions is because they DID master them from the same source material, but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts. [Edited 6/20/09 8:02am] Thanks for clearing that up. I know the u-Matic was originally developed for video (and analog, at that), so it seems that U-Matic was almost a rudimentary digital storage media at best. Do you know what the sources were for the Girl 6 and Ultimate remasters? Did they go back to the stereo masters, or did they use the U-Matic digital transfers? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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EmeraldSkies said: squirrelgrease said: Give us a review when you get them. You expect me to actually play them? Did you get them? Yes, please. Oh, and pics too. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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I know what these are. I have the same thing from Michael jackson, Cyndi Lauper, Culture Club and Whitney houston. The entire box set goes anywhere from $100 to $200 depending where you buy them I am an 80s Music Junkie ! | |
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squirrelgrease said: EmeraldSkies said: You expect me to actually play them? Did you get them? Yes, please. Oh, and pics too. No they don't get shipped until July,but when I get them I will post pictures. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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I just received a email saying that the release date has been changed,so they will now be shipping on July 15th. [Edited 6/22/09 13:32pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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yeah me too, release date is delayed a week. Prince 4Ever. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Giovanni777 said: Did U know that Sign O' The Times CD was actually mastered from a cassette version? Seriously. No it wasn't! The CD was mastered in the same way as virtually all CDs were for most of the 80's. Via a digital transfer from the original 1/4 inch Stereo Master onto U-Matic 3/4 inch tape (which looks like an extra big VHS cassette, which is probably where the confusion has come from). But anyway, that's not really the issue with regard to sound quality, the reason why most early CDs sound flat and harsh compared to their vinyl versions is because they DID master them from the same source material, but DIDN'T correct the eq to account for the differences between CD and vinyl. Original Masters were usually created a lot harsher sounding than how the finished release was supposed to sound, as engineers knew that the transfer onto vinyl lost a lot of this, as vinyl tended to mellow out the sound somewhat. Of course this meant that when the same masters where then used for CD, this mellowing didn't happen. This, coupled with the fact that the mastering process for CDs also tended to make things sound a bit flat meant that early CDs rarely sound as good as their vinyl counterparts. [Edited 6/20/09 8:02am] So U don't agree with what I said previously, HERE?: Giovanni777 said: By using a U matic, there had 2 be one, maybe two levels of error correction, which degrades the sound.
Also, the A-D converters back then were laughable compared 2 now. Tons of error correction, and distortion at low levels. I am also aware of the factor U bring up, but there is no disputing the 2 issues above, when using Umatic tapes. I'm pretty sure they used the Umatic cassette 4 the CD process, NOT the original master tapes. ~G . [Edited 6/22/09 13:48pm] "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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If these WERE actually remastered, and properly, they would sell well.
Especially if the CD labels were replicas, along with replica sleeve and cover. DAG. WB/Rhino should do just that! "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:
http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51 "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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Giovanni777 said: It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:
http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51 I use those Vinyl Replica CD-Rs for my Prince stuff - love 'em. There's never enough purple ones, though. The downside is that there's hardly any space for writing the info. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Just saw the first SHM CD on Ebay. For You on presale (release date July 8) for...
317$..... Who was that saying he's gonna buy all of them? | |
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Well that should put a dent in his econobag Prince's Sarah | |
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Well, you can still get them for $25 from here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/...key=147611
Here's a less-gougy eBayer: http://cgi.ebay.com/PRINC...7C294%3A50 If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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I've Googled SHM-CD and they are just regular Red Book CDs, aren't they?
How are they supposed to sound better? | |
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GirlBrother said: I've Googled SHM-CD and they are just regular Red Book CDs, aren't they?
How are they supposed to sound better? Yes, they are Red Book on the data layer. They won't sound any better than any other Japanese pressing. Period. Unless a proprietary plastic coating is now considered an audio enhancement. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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^ thanks for the pics, I have got mine as well
very fast delivery. Prince 4Ever. | |
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Just ordered Dirty Mind - Lovesexy.
Since I have no idea where my original vinyls are anymore, these were a must buy for me. Is Lovesexy tracked? [Edited 7/18/09 7:30am] | |
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thedance said: ^ thanks for the pics, I have got mine as well
very fast delivery. How do they sound compared to the original CDs? Are they louder and/or is the sound more detailed? Is the equalization much different from the originals? I'm especially interested about the differences with 1999, Dirty Mind and Sign O' The Times. I'm also curious if the Lovesexy CD is tracked... if it is tracked I might maybe buy that one... | |
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daaaaamn that SOTT replica is SERIOUS. I would love one of those. | |
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emesem said: Is Lovesexy tracked?
I have just checked.... and NO, unfortunately Lovesexy is 1 track. Prince 4Ever. | |
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squirrelgrease said: Giovanni777 said: It would be even better if WB/Rhino used something like THESE:
http://www.amazon.com/Ver...B00009WO51 I use those Vinyl Replica CD-Rs for my Prince stuff - love 'em. There's never enough purple ones, though. The downside is that there's hardly any space for writing the info. used to love these to death, but i always wished they didn't have all that Verbatim logo stuff on them | |
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thedance said: emesem said: Is Lovesexy tracked?
I have just checked.... and NO, unfortunately Lovesexy is 1 track. Crap. I knew I should have asked first! | |
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