Just BuyTheAlbum

why is that a shame?

ps... and you still can't buy the LF album here in Europe afaik,

thedance said:

I DONT KNOW SHIT

I am sure there were many who purchased the CD ... those who are upset with Prince may have decided on alternative ways to get it free , we have to accept that we are in a different time the demographic between the ages of 10-25 are in control of the charts.Its their time now.Strange, it oddly feels 20 years ago music froze in time (and it felt good) we were jamming to the same music as our parents,while rap was emerging the choices were vast.The death of disco left many artist in the cold.So it's possible our era is coming to a close.

Besides,Prince made his money already from Lotusflow3r,the other reality is while music is a quick way of escapism people are not going to part with money so easy these days.
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TheKing662 said:

im 36

no

TheKing662 said:

No. It's a whopping £29.99 in my local HMV, rip off.

Anything else you want me to pick up while I'm at Target? Maybe a prescription you forgot?

thedance said:

Oh well, I bought 2 copies in Milan, Italy, 1 month ago.
If you're having trouble finding it, you can always ask Yormeister:
http://prince.org/profile/yormeister
http://users.skynet.be/yo...e_cd.htm#I

in Germany at Saturn for 25,99 Euros that is...

W T F ?

TheKing662 said:

I cant get any of those albuns hear in Rio.....

At the moment anyone can sell more records than Prince ..... he not with a major record label... wake up! he's indie

shoot, maybe prince should do a tour or some promotional activity if he cares about selling more copies of his album.

I'm not interesting in making Prince a superstar and a chart-topper again. I've done that, over and over. We all have. We've all bought his albums, sometimes more than one copy when one gets lost, jacked up, or worn out. If I ever buy a second copy these days of something, it's used. I never buy a new one a 2nd time. We've all bought Lotus (except some UK fans). What are we to do with a 2nd copy? I mean, our friends can only have so many coasters before it just becomes silly.

ernestsewell said:

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None of you have a clue

This cd sold pretty well for an independent record and would have sold more if P bothered to promote it. However, he has already made his money and he will put out another CD next year or the year after. Long after the Dream has faded.

laurarichardson said:

I'm glad it sold as well as it did. I'm only buying one copy though, at this point, unless the one I have self-implodes, or the cat uses it for a scratching post. It's too bad Prince can't promote an album beyond 1 or 2 songs. How many are on the whole set? And Bria is nothing more than a studio artist. She'll never pull it off live, and she knows it. Prince has promotional A.D.D.

I fear what 2010 will bring. Maybe..just maybe, the decade will go out, and the next one will come in, with something great.

What do you mean Prince didn't promote it...at least in the US....
what do you think all those Target commercials were for?

The-Dream is actually a fan of prince's music. Hes not anywhere near as great as prince but anyone in music or otherwise who has looked up to prince in my book deserves some respect. They know good music when they hear it!

and wait until the young kid think they are hearing some out of this world stuff when ELECTRIK RED comes out meanwhile it's Prince inspired.

The Dream will really be rich then ...


ladies and Gentleman the new potty-mouth Vanity 6





http://www.youtube.com/wa...t8QB8nmT2I
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DO I hear oh Sheila

http://www.youtube.com/wa...t8QB8nmT2I
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utopia7 said:

Talk about a YAWN fest.
The R-rated Pussycat Dolls.


BTW. LF is $45 here in Aust. Glad I got mine off a friend in the States.

callimnate said:

45$
WOW

Joininthedance said:

"All those" Target commercials was ONE commercial, played over and over. It was a song that wasn't even put to video (ie: Chocolate Box, Crimson & Clover). 30 seconds is promotion? The commercials didn't even start to air unitl the 2nd night of his Leno stint.

I forget, what other TV shows was he on talking about the set, and playing songs from it besides Leno and Ellen? Oh...Tavis? Yeah, he talked out of his butterscotch hiney about chemicals in the sky, and not voting. Did he show up on GMA or Today or CBS This Morning? Nope. The View? Nope. Oprah? Nope. American Idol? Nope. ANYWHERE? No. I mean did he do anything significant beyond a very, VERY small handful of TV appearances? Okay 3 nights in LA. Cool, but .....anyone hear crickets now?

The videos...did they EVER get any full length play or were put into rotation on MTV, VH1, VH1 Soul, BET, TV ONE, or Palladia? Nope. People paid $77 to watch them in flash, and eventually they came out anyway....somewhere online I guess.

And it was just released when...March? What's he doing right now to promote an album that he could milk for a good year with singles, or whatever? It's the end of May, pretty much two months that the album has been out. He's sitting back on his haunches letting Target do the work, thinking those 30 million people in and out of their doors are going to just see an end cap with a stack of CDs on it and think "Oh hey, I'll buy one of those." People are TOO tight with money right now, and even $12 is a lot to someone who'd rather eat or get a bus pass for a week than have a Prince CD.

He just could have done (or be doing) a lot more. But really...if he loses interest in something as great as Sign O The Times, what chance does something abysmal like Lotusflow3r have? Zippo. I WISH he had/was done/doing more. I really do. Maybe certain songs would grow on me more. But if Prince doesn't give a crap about it anymore, why should I?

Joininthedance said:

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A commercial is not a enough. Record sales are at an all time low. An artist has to really get out and hustle to see decent sales but once again I think P is at a point in his life were is not concerned about promotion because he is getting money upfront.

Still it would have been nice to see him do more live performances so more people would be motivated to purchase the CD.

ernestsewell said:

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abysmal like Lotusflow3r WTF are you talking about. This CD is abysmal compared to what else that is out right now

laurarichardson said:

Agreed. It's almost like he has a kid mentality with sex. Get the O, forget the foreplay and afterglow. He gets his big pay off, and there's no coddling or nurturing of the product.

laurarichardson said:

Eric Hutchinson, Mika, Tyler Hilton - all have EP's coming out this week or next (or just released one), in anticipation for a new album later this year. Every single one of those EPs would blow Prince out of the water when it comes to songwriting, and even promotion. Sure they're EP's but you know what they're doing? Mika's is a limited edition book, illustrated by an artist to highlight each of the four new songs. Tyler Hilton has one of the best new voices, and yet oddly unheard, in the business, and he's been around for six years or so (I discovered him in about 2002/3 with an EP I found on iTunes). Eric Hutchinson is a phenomenal live performer. I've seen him live within the past year. His EP is all acoustic arrangements of some of the songs from his debut album, Sounds Like This.

What else is different about just these three examples? None of them wanted $77 from their fans, JUST to enter their websites. None of them released an album and left it sitting on the shelf. ALL of them have interacted with their fans either on Facebook, Twitter, myspace, or their own personal sites. People can scoff at those social networks, but it's how a LOT of artists get noticed, promote, and get their album sold (it's exactly what the Family 2.0 is doing for their new album forthcoming). They make themselves available, personable. Why? Because they depend on it. They understand a fan's need to interact and be a part of something like the music the listen to.

Prince has just gotten too big for his own britches, methinks. Too bad.

There is tons of other great music on the shelves right now, released within the past 2 months, that is kicking his ass. I'm just not one who is listening to the set anymore. Kinda lost interest in it about week 2 or so. I've tried to listen since, but I barely make it through Lotus, and only get 2 songs into MPLSound. I found myself just waiting for it to be over, to say "I listened again!", when in fact I just wasn't interested enough to hear anything on it.

Ehh well...to each his own.

ernestsewell said:

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Yes, to each his own because once again some unknown artist are doing something better than P but we will not ever hear from these people again in life. Not that I had heard of them before you mentioned them.

Year after year there is always something doing something better production and songwriting wise than P. There is supposed to be tons of great music yet you only mentioned three acts. Where is the great music of today I think it is on the CD you are so bored with because you are looking for something more than just enjoying the music. Do you really think ordinary people sit around listing to the production style of modern music or bemoan the poor songwriting that goes on today?

Please these are not the elements that everyone is looking for in popular music. I would just like to hear some decent singing and grooves.

As far as the artist that you mentioned none of them have enough of a following to ask anyone for $77. None of them received money up front for their CD so they have to use Facebook, Twitter (which I can’t fucking stand) or myspace. Do you think an artist of P’s stature needs to sit around on one of these site and communicate with fans to get sales? Obviously not since the CD hung around on the charts for two months without P so much as moving his ass.
I do not need to interact with P to enjoy the music and I think many folks on this board have made the mistake of thinking that P owes them something.
I do not see Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones or any older touring act resorting to this type of marketing because they don’t have to and I don’t think P has to either.
He works for himself and at the end of the day he is going be satisfied with the sales of the cd and his web project or not satisfied after all that is the whole point of working for yourself and running your own business.

laurarichardson said:

Well in fairness Laura, that's a bit dismissive. All of those artists have had albums out, done tours, been on TV, and are talented beyond belief. They are the Prince's of today in the regard that they play a lot of instruments, they write all their own music, they start from ground zero like Prince, and are well rounded folks (unlike Prince LOL). There is more to music than Prince and James Brown. Just because you haven't heard of Mika's Life In Cartoon Motion (which was a huge hit and had songs all over MTV, VH1, FUSE, MuchMusic, etc), or Eric's Sounds Like This, or Tyler's The Tracks Of (his seconnd album, as he's been active since 2001 in television (Starred on One Tree Hill, etc) and music), doesn't mean they're flash in the pans. As a matter of perspective, a lot of people today would think of Prince that way. Sure he's been around for 30 years, but to some 20 year old who doesn't really know who he is, they're NOT going to be excited at some Target commercial, and will certainly be put off by a $77 price tag for a website (thought the internet was free?)




Did you expect me to list EVERY SINGLE ARTIST out today that trumps P in regards of musicality and originality? I used three examples. There IS tons of great music out there. Endless. There's been arguments here over and over about how people like Jill Scott and India.Arie, as fucking talented as they are, STILL aren't getting the attention they deserve at this point.

And there's an interesting point you made. Some people do NOT "bemoan" or even notice poor production in music today. We both know it's out there. We could both rattle off probably 10 artists who are horrible at songwriting and/or production. But why don't kids do that today? Because it's ALL they've been fed. They think THAT is what music is supposed to be or sound like. 18 year olds think Britney Spears is "awesome" because they don't know what a great artist can sound like. And we know that "great" doesn't mean charts or anything like that. Prince isn't that popular on the charts in the past decade (in comparison to his past work), but that doesn't dismiss his greatness as a musician, an artist, a former visionary, etc. Right? If you feed a baby peas and tell him it's steak, he'll think it's steak. He has no point of reference to what steak is; so he thinks peas IS steak. So no, people don't sit and bemoan bad production because bad production is the status quo. They don't know the difference.




I do too. We're on the same page there.



Um...YES. YES HE DOES. Because he has NO clue as to what fans would like to hear from him. He THOUGHT he did when he recorded a bunch of songs and threw a Linn drum machine on them after the fact and said "Here's my 80's sound, enjoy it in 2009." But that isn't quite the case. I wish it were, but it's not.



We don't know what these artists got, but they are signed to labels, and certainly got money upfront, as well as for the sales of their album. They're husseling to be sure their album is HEARD, sold, and appreciated. They perform every damn song on an album. Why NOT do that? Even Meatloaf said, "There's a responsibility that if you put a song on an album, and people love it and it's part of their lives, and has become part of their history, you HAVE to do those songs live. It's how you connect. I write the song, they live it. THAT is what they want." Why NOT find out what the fans want to hear? Do we NEED another shortened version of "Let's Go Crazy"

And it was P himself who once said he loved the internet because of the interaction with the fans. Guess he got tired of us/that soon enough. I never have said I HAVE to interact w/ Prince to enjoy his music. I've seen him once live, and that's it, and I still enjoy most of his work through 1997, and only parts of it after that up to now. I just think he's a bit out of touch with his fans, and the reality of the business. He preaches a lot about the biz, and he's probably right on a LOT of those issues. He's certainly been around the block in the business. But he's missing such a huge slice of the market by sitting on his ass and not doing a thing after a few TV performances.

Think about it.... it's 2 months, and he's done with it. Except a Leno appearance this week (which is more about Leno's last week, opposed to Prince promoting an album), he couldn't care less about Lotus. I mean.....who does that? Singles are usually released every 3 months, roughly. He's put out two videos off the bat, which few people saw, and that's it. TWO MONTHS? That's barely enough time to release a single BEFORE an album drops to get people interested in it.
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whys it a shame?
the dreams music is sick . Prince needs to do more promotion
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who the fuck is The Dream...and why should we care.