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Lyrics. Do you or don't you? So many threads cover his lyrics, whether blasting them as in The Rainbow Children, looking for deeper meaning as in Colonised Mind, following his thoughts and experiences as with Anna Stesia or swooning at the sound of them as with any of the ballads, but what I'd like to know is how many of you are ignorant to his lyrics? How many don't pay attention to them and how many of you don't even know a song all the way through even?
I'll start by saying... wait for it... me. Even his most popular tunes I couldn't sing all the way through. Nowadays, with digital downloads, it's made worse as I couldn't even look at my leisure through the cd liners if I wanted to. | |
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Do you have a learning disability? | |
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iloveannie, I hold her, you kick her | |
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PANDURITO said: iloveannie, I hold her, you kick her
Surely we'll need someone to tell us when to stop? | |
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Dayclear said: Do you have a learning disability?
So taking that as a gibe, as I'm sure was intended, would you like to explain yourself? Suggesting perhaps that I'm committing some unforgivable act by not examining the lyrical side of Prince's music? | |
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Dayclear said: Do you have a learning disability?
That was an unnecessary remark. Some people only care about the music. AND what if someone DID have some kind of auditory processing issue, making it difficult to follow along with the lyrics? Is that person not allowed to listen according to your standards? U have a knack for the tacky, lady. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Personally, I listen several times to songs just to catch the lyrics, every single one. I do this because I'm italian and I speak a very good english and I want to improve my second language.
It's easier with booklets complete with lyrics and liner notes, it's more difficult if on the booklet (if there's any) there are no lyrics. My listening experience is complete, and paradoxically it ain't over, ever. Because each time I found the correct meaning to some words (due to my learning experience in the english language) that drives me to a totally different vision of a particular song. It's very exciting to listen to the Prince lyrics for a non-english | |
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By the way; very interesting topic | |
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Music first...lyrics second
'cause english isn't my first language, but wouldn't name this "ignorant" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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xtraloveable said: Music first...lyrics second
'cause english isn't my first language, but wouldn't name this "ignorant" Would never say that | |
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Anything album past NewPowerSoul is an album I don't know all the words to. | |
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Lyrics are make or break for me. When I have problems with an album, it's rarely because of the music.
Which is why The Rainbow Children and Planet Earth (to name two) will never be top tier in my book - despite some really stellar compositions. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Dayclear said: Do you have a learning disability?
Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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..prince is language..period..
...mzsexybaby ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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most people will know all the lyrics to their fav songs. nuff said. | |
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Sophianestesia said: Personally, I listen several times to songs just to catch the lyrics, every single one. I do this because I'm italian and I speak a very good english and I want to improve my second language.
It's easier with booklets complete with lyrics and liner notes, it's more difficult if on the booklet (if there's any) there are no lyrics. My listening experience is complete, and paradoxically it ain't over, ever. Because each time I found the correct meaning to some words (due to my learning experience in the english language) that drives me to a totally different vision of a particular song. It's very exciting to listen to the Prince lyrics for a non-english I agree. Lyrics are great for improving a foreign language | |
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I can't make out a damn word from, "77 Beverly Park." "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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I hear the music first but as I listen repeatedly - the lyrics have to pass my own completely subjective criteria. ...For instance - I would love to have an instrumental of Bria's 2Nite. I love the groove but the lyrics ruin it for me.
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Dayclear said: Do you have a learning disability?
I do. I've never learned to not read the stupid shit you say. | |
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iloveannie said: PANDURITO said: iloveannie, I hold her, you kick her
Surely we'll need someone to tell us when to stop? x 1000 If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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So despite it being an interesting topic (for two at least) it didn't garner much feedback. As a learning tool it would seem that song lyrics help, although how you cope with slang and Americanisms is to be questioned, whilst for others it would seem disadvantageous to read the message within the songs. The "learning disability" goes to the other foot so to speak
And as for Dayclear, not one person stepped in to say stop. How does it feel to be a woman and be thought of as a tosser? It's usually the domain of the male. | |
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Lyrics are an important part and I don't ignore them, but theres so much more to Prince than lyrics, I really listen for as well.
Beats, Musical arrangement, melody, instruments especially guitar and synths, drumming, his voice effects, the vibe of the song and flow. Some times these are better than the lyrics, I mean some of the homophobic, sexist and anti semitic crap on TRC and other lesser albums I can forgive because the songs concerned are just so damn funky. How funky a song is, is my most important measurement. Scale of Funkiness. (Best to worst) Technicolour Junkie in a funky square (We spell colour like that in British Commonwealth countries) Funkdoobiest Funkity Funky Funk Funk Superfunkicalifragisexy Sexy Motherfunker Crazy Funky Really Funky Funky and then some Funky Brings the Funk Quite Funky Sort of Funky Not very Funky Not all Funky Unfunky No Funk Puts me in a deep blue Funk Funk Free crap No comment So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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iloveannie said: So despite it being an interesting topic (for two at least) it didn't garner much feedback. As a learning tool it would seem that song lyrics help, although how you cope with slang and Americanisms is to be questioned, whilst for others it would seem disadvantageous to read the message within the songs. The "learning disability" goes to the other foot so to speak
And as for Dayclear, not one person stepped in to say stop. How does it feel to be a woman and be thought of as a tosser? It's usually the domain of the male. Sorry... Yesterday I actually meant to answer your question. But I got so annoyed by the rudeness of a comment that I lost focus! I listen very carefully to lyrics. When I listen to a song, I try to make sense of what the singer is saying. I hear the kids I teach say that they don't care as long as it has a good beat- I'll ask them, "What does this or that mean?" in a song, and they either haven't paid attention or have no clue. Girls bop their heads and wiggle to misogynist BS, and boys just walk around spouting stupid stuff and it's okay as long as it's danceable. Sometimes I stare at the speakers like to some of the silly stuff Prince has said. But I have to admit- there are some songs that just make U move no matter what. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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I guess I am weird because I know almost every lyric to every song right on down to little noises he makes..breaths he takes.the little ums and ahs..the screams and the ad lib lyrics and the end of his songs...I just think if you follow all his lyrics(and call me a crazy nut)what he has done is written a modern day version of scripture...(I am going to get so blaststed from that statement) | |
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bobbyc17 said: I guess I am weird because I know almost every lyric to every song right on down to little noises he makes..breaths he takes.the little ums and ahs..the screams and the ad lib lyrics and the end of his songs...I just think if you follow all his lyrics(and call me a crazy nut)what he has done is written a modern day version of scripture...(I am going to get so blaststed from that statement)
Not clear: has Prince created a new writing style or has Prince created a new version of the Scriptures? I guess U meant the first... [Edited 5/19/09 8:39am] | |
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bobbyc17 said: I guess I am weird because I know almost every lyric to every song right on down to little noises he makes..breaths he takes.the little ums and ahs..the screams and the ad lib lyrics and the end of his songs...I just think if you follow all his lyrics(and call me a crazy nut)what he has done is written a modern day version of scripture...(I am going to get so blaststed from that statement)
im sure your not alone, others here do the same.....crazy FAMS Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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I meant as an addition or companion to the Scriptures | |
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bobbyc17 said: I meant as an addition or companion to the Scriptures
Well, I think Prince had a way to interpret the Scriptures back in the 80s and 90s which is now different, due to his 'religious rebirth' as a Jehovah's Witness. | |
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As others have stated, it's the music itself that has to grab me first. However, there are times when I have gone back and listened to the lyrics of a song that I originally wasn't crazy about and then fell in love with it dispite the music. I have always found Prince to be very imaginative with his lyrics, and some of the things he writes are actually deep and profound if you take the time to stop and think about them. I love listening to him live, because he ad libs alot, and is quite funny. And sometimes it could just be a note that he hits that gives me chills. For some reason that last note he hums on "I Can't Make U Love Me" gets me everytime. | |
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...I'M SURE NUFF DIGGING THESE LYRICS!!...
...lets c..body-oil?..check..incense?..check..environmental records?..double-check...i'm a get some serious drawers 2 night...THINK I AIN'T!??!..lets c..if i tell gilbert and jerome 2 meet me at 11...then i creep at 10...that'll give me an hour of free raid!!..more draws..more draws...9:30..i'm getting dressed...had a couple of sips of wine...i swear 2 God..my suit was hanging F-I-N-E!!... ..mzsexybaby ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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