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PrintableDave1992 said: EmancipationLover said: The problem some people seem to have with this fantastic album result from two major misunderstandings imo:
1) When Prince announced "Emancipation" as the record he was born to make, some people apparantly had something like a super-TGE in mind, i.e. a very band-oriented sound and heavy guitar work. However, Prince changed directions and gave them a pop album. 2) The filler problem: Everyone claims that cutting down the album to one or two discs would improve its quality. But: ask two people about their idea of a one-disc "Emancipation", and you'll get three opinions. The whole concept of the album was to get all of the music out so everyone may decide which tracks they love and which are the ones they skip. Wanna have a one-disc "Emancipation"? Simply warm up your CD burner! This is what I've been trying to tell people forever!  Unfortunately, not all of them listen to you/us...  | |
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Rorywan said: Anyone heard the boot called "Emancipation - Secret Chapter"?
Some interesting tracks and alternate versions on there in very very high quality. Makes an interesting companion disc. I really like the alt version of new world/slave & 2020. 01. Slave 2 the System 02. New World (Alt) 03. Slave (Alt) 04. 2020 05. Feel Good 06. Right Back Here 07. Journey to The Center of Your Heart 08. I Am The DJ 09. Goodbye 10. Emancipation (Alt) [Edited 5/25/09 14:05pm] I have some of those songs, but I never knew another version of New World existed!  What does it sound like? | |
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Militant said: There is something very processed and plastic-y about a lot of it. Many blame Kirky J's role for this. I think it's more than that though.
The flipside of that is that there is some GREAT songs also, and filtered down to 1, or even 1.5 CD's worth there is a CLASSIC album there. well said, because of the 1,5 CD for me IT IS a classic though.... | |
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Dave1992 said: Rorywan said: Anyone heard the boot called "Emancipation - Secret Chapter"?
Some interesting tracks and alternate versions on there in very very high quality. Makes an interesting companion disc. I really like the alt version of new world/slave & 2020. 01. Slave 2 the System 02. New World (Alt) 03. Slave (Alt) 04. 2020 05. Feel Good 06. Right Back Here 07. Journey to The Center of Your Heart 08. I Am The DJ 09. Goodbye 10. Emancipation (Alt) [Edited 5/25/09 14:05pm] I have some of those songs, but I never knew another version of New World existed! What does it sound like?Not very different! Probably just a alt take. Slave to the system is great though, as is 2020 and the other version of Emancipation. IMHO! "My God it's full of Stars"
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Rorywan said: Dave1992 said: I have some of those songs, but I never knew another version of New World existed! What does it sound like?Not very different! Probably just a alt take. Slave to the system is great though, as is 2020 and the other version of Emancipation. IMHO! It's not every different at all. Some are just earlier mixes. I love "I Am The DJ". I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam CHORUS: When I scritchy, scritchy, scratch I will make U shake your back U'll be lookin' up and callin' me sire I'm the leader of the pack I'm the first and only act I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher No, I don't need your money, put half a mil' a year U want your record played, it's got 2 freak my ear Save your dollars (money, money, money) and pawn my sizzlin' tears I am the DJ and I'm all U'll ever hear CHORUS Who needs a freakin' video if the groove ain't all good? MTV could be rollin' but it won't be in the 'hood Check it - when the techno-bunnies request U That's when U're comin' strong Everything else is jack-off It all starts with a good song, ha ha I am the DJ I play what I play I am the DJ Scritch, scritch, scratch I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam, jam, jam, jam, jam! (Yes) CHORUS (Shake your back) (Go, ooh!) (Let me tell U, boy) Baby, oh yeah DJ, DJ (I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher) DJ, check it {x3} DJ {x6} | |
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ernestsewell said: Rorywan said: Not very different! Probably just a alt take. Slave to the system is great though, as is 2020 and the other version of Emancipation. IMHO! It's not every different at all. Some are just earlier mixes. I love "I Am The DJ". I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam CHORUS: When I scritchy, scritchy, scratch I will make U shake your back U'll be lookin' up and callin' me sire I'm the leader of the pack I'm the first and only act I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher No, I don't need your money, put half a mil' a year U want your record played, it's got 2 freak my ear Save your dollars (money, money, money) and pawn my sizzlin' tears I am the DJ and I'm all U'll ever hear CHORUS Who needs a freakin' video if the groove ain't all good? MTV could be rollin' but it won't be in the 'hood Check it - when the techno-bunnies request U That's when U're comin' strong Everything else is jack-off It all starts with a good song, ha ha I am the DJ I play what I play I am the DJ Scritch, scritch, scratch I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam, jam, jam, jam, jam! (Yes) CHORUS (Shake your back) (Go, ooh!) (Let me tell U, boy) Baby, oh yeah DJ, DJ (I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher) DJ, check it {x3} DJ {x6}  "My God it's full of Stars"
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ernestsewell said: Rorywan said: Not very different! Probably just a alt take. Slave to the system is great though, as is 2020 and the other version of Emancipation. IMHO! It's not every different at all. Some are just earlier mixes. I love "I Am The DJ". I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam CHORUS: When I scritchy, scritchy, scratch I will make U shake your back U'll be lookin' up and callin' me sire I'm the leader of the pack I'm the first and only act I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher No, I don't need your money, put half a mil' a year U want your record played, it's got 2 freak my ear Save your dollars (money, money, money) and pawn my sizzlin' tears I am the DJ and I'm all U'll ever hear CHORUS Who needs a freakin' video if the groove ain't all good? MTV could be rollin' but it won't be in the 'hood Check it - when the techno-bunnies request U That's when U're comin' strong Everything else is jack-off It all starts with a good song, ha ha I am the DJ I play what I play I am the DJ Scritch, scritch, scratch I am the DJ, I can make U dance I play what I play because I can I follow no one, I don't give a damn I'm here 2 have fun and make U jam, jam, jam, jam, jam! (Yes) CHORUS (Shake your back) (Go, ooh!) (Let me tell U, boy) Baby, oh yeah DJ, DJ (I'm the DJ, I can take U higher, higher) DJ, check it {x3} DJ {x6} This is one of my favorite Prince boots. I LOVE THIS SONG!!! I wish he would release it on an album. It would have worked on MPLSOUND. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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It has regularly been said by music reviewers, not necesarilly Prince-fanatics, but relative outsiders that with a better production, and stripped down to a single album, this could have been Prince best album since Sign of the Times.
I somehow agree with them. Around the time of release, maybe a lot of 'us' Prince fans were uber-excited about the promise of Emancipation being 'the album I was dying to make' and were therefore extra dissapointed with the often plastic production and the number of filler. In general Emancipation did get good to very good reviews in the music press, probably based on the situation that underneath the plastic, there were at least 10 - 12 songs on those 3 CD-s that showed that Prince still was a great songwriter. It were these kind of reviews that made me look at the album in another light. [Edited 5/26/09 8:11am] [Edited 5/26/09 8:12am] | |
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Riverpoet31 said: It has regularly been said by music reviewers, not necesarilly Prince-fanatics, but relative outsiders that with a better production, and stripped down to a single album, this could have been Prince best album since Sign of the Times.
I somehow agree with them. Around the time of release, maybe a lot of 'us' Prince fans were uber-excited about the promise of Emancipation being 'the album I was dying to make' and were therefore extra dissapointed with the often plastic production and the number of filler. In general Emancipation did get good to very good reviews in the music press, probably based on the situation that underneath the plastic, there were at least 10 - 12 songs on those 3 CD-s that showed that Prince still was a great songwriter. It were these kind of reviews that made me look at the album in another light. [Edited 5/26/09 8:11am] [Edited 5/26/09 8:12am] He credited the album he was "born" to make. I liked the album (and still do). There are a few duds on there, but it is a good album overall. I listened to it regularly for about 3 or 4 years. I sill revisit it from time-to-time, though. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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luv4u said: I like all 3 discs. My fave is disc II
I also like all 3 discs, although I must say that I like disc II least. Disc I is most consistent but I like disc III best as there a couple of stellar songs there - especially One of us, which is in my Top 10 of Prince songs even though it is a cover. He completely owns that song, so over time I tend to appreciate it as a Prince song. | |
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luv4u said:
I like all 3 discs. My fave is disc II co-co-co-co sign. Such an expansive album. Stuart Maconie (UK critic and DJ) said at the time that you should take 2 weeks off work, put a tent in your garden and just listen to/absorb this album - it deserved that focused attention. Disc 2 contains some of his most open lyrics, heartfelt and perfect vocals - just a beautiful disc. | |
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reinoud said: luv4u said: I like all 3 discs. My fave is disc II
I also like all 3 discs, although I must say that I like disc II least. Disc I is most consistent but I like disc III best as there a couple of stellar songs there - especially One of us, which is in my Top 10 of Prince songs even though it is a cover. He completely owns that song, so over time I tend to appreciate it as a Prince song. I agree with you . Disc 2 is my least favorite of the 3 cds. I found myself listening to disc 1 and 3 lots more. I did like a lot of the ballads on disc 2, but it gets pretty dull to me after a while. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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