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Thread started 05/16/09 12:19pm

HAZE03

Beautiful Strange

If this link works can someone tell me where this version is from? And can I legally obtain it?

sorry everyone
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Reply #1 posted 05/16/09 12:25pm

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i've not checked the link, but the first studio version was on the beautiful strange vhs and tv broadcast, and the first officialy released studio version on cd was on the rave un2 the joy fantastic remix cd. there have been a few live versions such as at paisley park and other aftershows between about 2002 and 2007 approx
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Reply #2 posted 05/16/09 12:26pm

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it's the unreleased version that was played on the interview he had with mel b. no you can't obtain it "legally" and if you don't remove that link from your post, i will be forced to hurt you mad lol
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Reply #3 posted 05/16/09 2:03pm

ernestsewell

To beef up the points made:

"Beautiful Strange" was the title of an interview he did with Mel B from The Spice Girls. It was around 1998, right about when NewPowerSoul was hitting the streets.

The SONG can be found in part on that interview.

The studio version can be found on Rave IN2 The Joy Fantastic, which was the special edition of Rave UN2 The Joy Fantastic. It was released only through 1800NEWFUNK. I ordered mine online for $15 and got it about six weeks later. You might find it on eBay, or even Amazon.com used from an independent seller. It comes in a jewel case, not a plastic digipak like Rave Un2 did. It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down). The artwork inside is different too, as is the CD label itself.

I THINK the version that was on NPGMC (streamed or on the interview) was a bit LESS produced than the one on the Rave IN2 album. That CD version is bit more trippy, but basically the same song. Just extra psychedelic guitar soloing over certain parts.
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Reply #4 posted 05/16/09 2:31pm

HAZE03

ernestsewell said:

To beef up the points made:

"Beautiful Strange" was the title of an interview he did with Mel B from The Spice Girls. It was around 1998, right about when NewPowerSoul was hitting the streets.

The SONG can be found in part on that interview.

The studio version can be found on Rave IN2 The Joy Fantastic, which was the special edition of Rave UN2 The Joy Fantastic. It was released only through 1800NEWFUNK. I ordered mine online for $15 and got it about six weeks later. You might find it on eBay, or even Amazon.com used from an independent seller. It comes in a jewel case, not a plastic digipak like Rave Un2 did. It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down). The artwork inside is different too, as is the CD label itself.

I THINK the version that was on NPGMC (streamed or on the interview) was a bit LESS produced than the one on the Rave IN2 album. That CD version is bit more trippy, but basically the same song. Just extra psychedelic guitar soloing over certain parts.


I had both CD's until a friend never returned one. I really loved the remixes on that cd. I have since obtained the psychedelic version and am grateful for that but I really love the mysterious dark sound of the begining of the unreleased version.
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/09 2:47pm

bstrange

B(eautiful) Strange....

My favorite.... biggrin Especially the live version at Nighttown.... cool
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Reply #6 posted 05/16/09 3:43pm

salaciousV

bstrange said:

B(eautiful) Strange....

My favorite.... biggrin Especially the live version at Nighttown.... cool


Never heard that version.

This song is kick ass up and down the street.
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Reply #7 posted 05/16/09 5:47pm

Tame

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Beautiful song. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #8 posted 05/16/09 5:52pm

mzsadii

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Awesome Song!
Prince's Sarah
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/09 6:46pm

Dayclear

Sexy. biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 05/16/09 7:15pm

salaciousV

Heard the loose live version, sawweeet!
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Reply #11 posted 05/18/09 12:13am

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Prince made some sort of comment about Madonna "stealing" the title for her Beautiful Stranger single. It was referred to on his website at the time, I guess in jest.

Beautiful Strange version 1(VHS) - Prince on guitar solo
Beautiful Strange version 2(RaveIn2) - Mike Scott on guitar solo
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/09 12:49am

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ernestsewell said:

To beef up the points made:

"Beautiful Strange" was the title of an interview he did with Mel B from The Spice Girls. It was around 1998, right about when NewPowerSoul was hitting the streets.

The SONG can be found in part on that interview.

The studio version can be found on Rave IN2 The Joy Fantastic, which was the special edition of Rave UN2 The Joy Fantastic. It was released only through 1800NEWFUNK. I ordered mine online for $15 and got it about six weeks later. You might find it on eBay, or even Amazon.com used from an independent seller. It comes in a jewel case, not a plastic digipak like Rave Un2 did. It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down). The artwork inside is different too, as is the CD label itself.

I THINK the version that was on NPGMC (streamed or on the interview) was a bit LESS produced than the one on the Rave IN2 album. That CD version is bit more trippy, but basically the same song. Just extra psychedelic guitar soloing over certain parts.




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Reply #13 posted 05/18/09 12:52am

Marco81

squirrelgrease said:

Prince made some sort of comment about Madonna "stealing" the title for her Beautiful Stranger single. It was referred to on his website at the time, I guess in jest.

Beautiful Strange version 1(VHS) - Prince on guitar solo
Beautiful Strange version 2(RaveIn2) - Mike Scott on guitar solo



hmm can't remember the booklet credits right now but....maybe the solos are by Prince and the rhythm guitar in the backgrounde from Mike Scott....any idea?
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/09 1:23am

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Marco81 said:

squirrelgrease said:

Prince made some sort of comment about Madonna "stealing" the title for her Beautiful Stranger single. It was referred to on his website at the time, I guess in jest.

Beautiful Strange version 1(VHS) - Prince on guitar solo
Beautiful Strange version 2(RaveIn2) - Mike Scott on guitar solo



hmm can't remember the booklet credits right now but....maybe the solos are by Prince and the rhythm guitar in the backgrounde from Mike Scott....any idea?


The credits are not specific as to lead, but it's commonly understood that Mike Scott did the solo on the Rave In2 CD.

1. Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (5:13)
2. Undisputed (The Moneyopolis Mix) (5:45)
3. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Extended Remix) (8:07)
4. Hot Wit U (Nasty Girl Remix)(4:22)
5. Tangerine (Extended Version) (2:13)
6. So Far, So Pleased (3:23)
7. The Sun, The Moon And Stars (5:15)
8. Man O' War (Remix) (5:12)
9. Baby Knows (Extended Version) (3:52)
10. Eye Love U, But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore (3:33)
11. Beautiful Strange (4:55)
12. Silly Game (3:29)
13. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do (3:15)
hidden bonus track:
14. Prettyman (Extended Version) (5:35)

Produced by Prince
Arranged, composed and performed by prince xcept where indicated
Additional arrangements by Prince
Recorded and mixed at Paisley Park Studios by Hans-Martin Buff and prince
“Baby Knows” and “So Far, So Pleased” mixed at Electric Lady, New York, assisted by Steve Mandel
“Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic” recorded and mixed by Femi Jiya with HM Buff
All computer programming by Kirk A. Johnson and prince
NPG orchestra arranged and conducted by Clare Fischer and recorded by Arne Frager at O’Henry Studios, Burbank, assisted by Jeff Shannon and Victor Carrillo
Horns arranged by Michael B. Nelson and prince
Engineering by HM Buff
Mastered by Tony Dawsey at Masterdisk, NYC
Art direction, photos and design by Steven Parke

Album Credits
Chuck D: rhyme animal on “Undisputed”
Eve: rhyme on “Hot Wit U”
Gwen Stefani: co-lead vox on “So Far, So Pleased”
Sheryl Crow: co-lead vox and harmonica on “Baby Knows”
Ani DiFranco: acoustic guitar on “Eye Love U, But Eye Don’t Trust U Anymore”
Maceo Parker: sax on “Prettyman”
Prince: all instruments and vox on "Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" Rhonda Smith: bass on “So Far, So Pleased” and acoustic bass on “Tangerine”
Marva King: background vox on “So Far, So Pleased” and "Beautiful Strange"
Michael Bland: drums on “Baby Knows”
Kirk A. Johnson: drums on “So Far, So Pleased” and additional percussion on “Man O’ War”
Adele C.: ‘Queen’ on “Undisputed”
Kip Blackshire: background vox on “Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic”, "Baby Knows" and vocoder vox on “Undisputed”
Bros. Jules: Scratches on “Undisputed”, “Hot Wit U” and “Prettyman”
Mike Scott: guitar on “The Greatest Romance Ever Sold” and "Beautiful Strange"
NPG chants on “Undisputed” by Kirk A. Johnson and Morris Hayes
Strings on “The Sun, The Moon And Stars”, “Man O’ War” and “Silly Game” by the NPG Orchestra Horns performed by the Hornheads: Michael B. Nelson, Dave and Kathy Jensen, Kenny Holmen and Steve Strand
Appreciation: Clive Davis, NPG, L. Londell McMillan, Kirk A. Johnson, Hans-Martin Buff, Larry and Tina Graham, Manuela Testolini, Takumi, Parke, Jaqui Thompson, Mayté and the Creator
Props and Favors due 2: Chuck D, Sheryl Crow, Eve, Gwen Stefani, Maceo Parker, Ani DiFranco, Kip, DuJuan & Jonnie Blackshire… and U
Open yo mind, timespace&darknessdonotexist
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/09 2:14am

Marco81

thanx!...

p.s. too bad it's Mike Scott and not Prince...

squirrelgrease said:[quote]

Marco81 said:



The credits are not specific as to lead, but it's commonly understood that Mike Scott did the solo on the Rave In2 CD.

1. Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (5:13)
2. Undisputed (The Moneyopolis Mix) (5:45)
3. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Extended Remix) (8:07)
4. Hot Wit U (Nasty Girl Remix)(4:22)
5. Tangerine (Extended Version) (2:13)
6. So Far, So Pleased (3:23)
7. The Sun, The Moon And Stars (5:15)
8. Man O' War (Remix) (5:12)
9. Baby Knows (Extended Version) (3:52)
10. Eye Love U, But Eye Don't Trust U Anymore (3:33)
11. Beautiful Strange (4:55)
12. Silly Game (3:29)
13. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do (3:15)
hidden bonus track:
14. Prettyman (Extended Version) (5:35)

Produced by Prince
Arranged, composed and performed by prince xcept where indicated
Additional arrangements by Prince
Recorded and mixed at Paisley Park Studios by Hans-Martin Buff and prince
“Baby Knows” and “So Far, So Pleased” mixed at Electric Lady, New York, assisted by Steve Mandel
“Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic” recorded and mixed by Femi Jiya with HM Buff
All computer programming by Kirk A. Johnson and prince
NPG orchestra arranged and conducted by Clare Fischer and recorded by Arne Frager at O’Henry Studios, Burbank, assisted by Jeff Shannon and Victor Carrillo
Horns arranged by Michael B. Nelson and prince
Engineering by HM Buff
Mastered by Tony Dawsey at Masterdisk, NYC
Art direction, photos and design by Steven Parke

Album Credits
Chuck D: rhyme animal on “Undisputed”
Eve: rhyme on “Hot Wit U”
Gwen Stefani: co-lead vox on “So Far, So Pleased”
Sheryl Crow: co-lead vox and harmonica on “Baby Knows”
Ani DiFranco: acoustic guitar on “Eye Love U, But Eye Don’t Trust U Anymore”
Maceo Parker: sax on “Prettyman”
Prince: all instruments and vox on "Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" Rhonda Smith: bass on “So Far, So Pleased” and acoustic bass on “Tangerine”
Marva King: background vox on “So Far, So Pleased” and "Beautiful Strange"
Michael Bland: drums on “Baby Knows”
Kirk A. Johnson: drums on “So Far, So Pleased” and additional percussion on “Man O’ War”
Adele C.: ‘Queen’ on “Undisputed”
Kip Blackshire: background vox on “Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic”, "Baby Knows" and vocoder vox on “Undisputed”
Bros. Jules: Scratches on “Undisputed”, “Hot Wit U” and “Prettyman”
Mike Scott: guitar on “The Greatest Romance Ever Sold” and "Beautiful Strange"
NPG chants on “Undisputed” by Kirk A. Johnson and Morris Hayes
Strings on “The Sun, The Moon And Stars”, “Man O’ War” and “Silly Game” by the NPG Orchestra Horns performed by the Hornheads: Michael B. Nelson, Dave and Kathy Jensen, Kenny Holmen and Steve Strand
Appreciation: Clive Davis, NPG, L. Londell McMillan, Kirk A. Johnson, Hans-Martin Buff, Larry and Tina Graham, Manuela Testolini, Takumi, Parke, Jaqui Thompson, Mayté and the Creator
Props and Favors due 2: Chuck D, Sheryl Crow, Eve, Gwen Stefani, Maceo Parker, Ani DiFranco, Kip, DuJuan & Jonnie Blackshire… and U
Open yo mind, timespace&darknessdonotexist
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Reply #16 posted 05/18/09 3:14am

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punkofthemonth said:

it's the unreleased version that was played on the interview he had with mel b. no you can't obtain it "legally" and if you don't remove that link from your post, i will be forced to hurt you mad lol


actually beautiful strange was released officially on vhs, which included the edited cafe de paris show (the actual show was almost twice in lenght - i was there) the interview with mel b, the come on promo video, and the full length original version of beautiful strange video, which is basically clouds floating about and parts of the lyrics across the screen. i bought a copy of the vhs with proper packaging at paisley park in june 2000. it was also broadcast on channel 4 in 1998 as part of a prince evening, and i think it was also broadcast in other countries. i can't remember if parts of it were on npgmc or not, but i don't recall off the top of my head right now.

at the start of the show there is a clip of prince playing beautiful strange in the studio, playing his hohner direct injected to the soundesk and singing into a mic with a pair of sony hd9000 (i think that's the proper code, the 9000 bit is right) headphones on. the recording stops mid song as the phone rings and prince picks it up to be advised that mel b has arrived

personally i thought the original version was better

rave in2 was originally given away free when members joined the first version of npgmc, much later on there was an option to buy copies but i understood that most if not all didn't have any artwork and just came in a plain jewelcase. they had a bunch of copies on sale in just the jewelcase at paisley at one of the cellys at least. i think they also found another batch at a later time and put them on sale for $5
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/09 3:23am

tomds

ernestsewell said:

It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down). The artwork inside is different too, as is the CD label itself.


In fact his eyes are really looking at you instead of down. That was the only difference between the 2 photo's. Look closely, you will see that the eyes are different. and the artwork from rave in2 was much better than that of rave un2. You have to have them both to complete the collection, because "strange but true" was cut from rave in2 (replaced by "beautiful strange")

I got a free copy when joining NPGMC in 2001. those were the days.
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Reply #18 posted 05/18/09 6:40am

ernestsewell

tomds said:

ernestsewell said:

It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down). The artwork inside is different too, as is the CD label itself.


In fact his eyes are really looking at you instead of down. That was the only difference between the 2 photo's. Look closely, you will see that the eyes are different.


Um.....that's pretty much what I said.
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/09 7:42am

NuPwrSoul

bstrange said:

B(eautiful) Strange....

My favorite.... biggrin Especially the live version at Nighttown.... cool


Yes that live version is amazing! Prince's screaming blending into Candy's sax solo and his guitar solo--great arrangement. And then Rhonda's bass solo
eek She proves her bonafides in that performance.
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Reply #20 posted 05/18/09 9:31am

tomds

ernestsewell said:It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down).



Um.....that's pretty much what I said.


This is what you said, looked like you weren't sure about the difference. doesn't matter
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Reply #21 posted 05/18/09 9:34am

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[Edited 1/2/10 1:34am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #22 posted 05/18/09 10:50am

ernestsewell

tomds said:

ernestsewell said:It has the same artwork on front (although I've always thought Prince's eyes were looking AT you instead of down).



Um.....that's pretty much what I said.


This is what you said, looked like you weren't sure about the difference. doesn't matter


nana hmm nod
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Reply #23 posted 05/18/09 11:09am

tomds

ernestsewell said:

tomds said:



This is what you said, looked like you weren't sure about the difference. doesn't matter


nana hmm nod


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Reply #24 posted 05/18/09 11:54am

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unique said:

punkofthemonth said:

it's the unreleased version that was played on the interview he had with mel b. no you can't obtain it "legally" and if you don't remove that link from your post, i will be forced to hurt you mad lol


actually beautiful strange was released officially on vhs, which included the edited cafe de paris show (the actual show was almost twice in lenght - i was there) the interview with mel b, the come on promo video, and the full length original version of beautiful strange video, which is basically clouds floating about and parts of the lyrics across the screen. i bought a copy of the vhs with proper packaging at paisley park in june 2000. it was also broadcast on channel 4 in 1998 as part of a prince evening, and i think it was also broadcast in other countries. i can't remember if parts of it were on npgmc or not, but i don't recall off the top of my head right now.

at the start of the show there is a clip of prince playing beautiful strange in the studio, playing his hohner direct injected to the soundesk and singing into a mic with a pair of sony hd9000 (i think that's the proper code, the 9000 bit is right) headphones on. the recording stops mid song as the phone rings and prince picks it up to be advised that mel b has arrived

personally i thought the original version was better

rave in2 was originally given away free when members joined the first version of npgmc, much later on there was an option to buy copies but i understood that most if not all didn't have any artwork and just came in a plain jewelcase. they had a bunch of copies on sale in just the jewelcase at paisley at one of the cellys at least. i think they also found another batch at a later time and put them on sale for $5


Defunct Beautiful Strange VHS order page: http://web.archive.org/we...code=Music

Defunct Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (incorrectly called Rave Un2) order page): http://web.archive.org/we...code=Music

There was a problem with the artwork for the original Jewel Case Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic tray cards. The spine still said Rave Un2, where the rest of the artwork was correct as In2. I think this is why artwork was removed from the cases and sold that way. Folks were buying those $5 Raves like mad at the Celly.

MusicToday handled some (or all) sales of the Rave In2 CD. They even had NOS copies a couple of years ago. I bought one of the last ones. Interestingly, it had the incorrect spine artwork.
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/09 12:10pm

DesireeNevermi
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Prince takes you on a trip inside his mackdaddy shop


Strangely beautiful
Beautiful strange
That's what we said
instead of the name
If U count the times
He took all the blame
U would find the reason
behind the game

In the darkness
we must look 4 the way
Words so strange
that only the mind can say
If it makes no mind
what color or holy day
why is this game
the only one that we play

Dive inside your soul if U wanna know
the light inside the darkness 4ever glows
The son is like the diamond inside the coal
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Reply #26 posted 05/18/09 1:19pm

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squirrelgrease said:

unique said:



actually beautiful strange was released officially on vhs, which included the edited cafe de paris show (the actual show was almost twice in lenght - i was there) the interview with mel b, the come on promo video, and the full length original version of beautiful strange video, which is basically clouds floating about and parts of the lyrics across the screen. i bought a copy of the vhs with proper packaging at paisley park in june 2000. it was also broadcast on channel 4 in 1998 as part of a prince evening, and i think it was also broadcast in other countries. i can't remember if parts of it were on npgmc or not, but i don't recall off the top of my head right now.

at the start of the show there is a clip of prince playing beautiful strange in the studio, playing his hohner direct injected to the soundesk and singing into a mic with a pair of sony hd9000 (i think that's the proper code, the 9000 bit is right) headphones on. the recording stops mid song as the phone rings and prince picks it up to be advised that mel b has arrived

personally i thought the original version was better

rave in2 was originally given away free when members joined the first version of npgmc, much later on there was an option to buy copies but i understood that most if not all didn't have any artwork and just came in a plain jewelcase. they had a bunch of copies on sale in just the jewelcase at paisley at one of the cellys at least. i think they also found another batch at a later time and put them on sale for $5


Defunct Beautiful Strange VHS order page: http://web.archive.org/we...code=Music

Defunct Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (incorrectly called Rave Un2) order page): http://web.archive.org/we...code=Music

There was a problem with the artwork for the original Jewel Case Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic tray cards. The spine still said Rave Un2, where the rest of the artwork was correct as In2. I think this is why artwork was removed from the cases and sold that way. Folks were buying those $5 Raves like mad at the Celly.

MusicToday handled some (or all) sales of the Rave In2 CD. They even had NOS copies a couple of years ago. I bought one of the last ones. Interestingly, it had the incorrect spine artwork.


i just checked mine and it's correct with in2, and the original says un2. they must have done a second batch with new artwork to fuck it up like that, weird as you would have thought they would do a simple reprint
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/09 1:59pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

bstrange said:

B(eautiful) Strange....

My favorite.... biggrin Especially the live version at Nighttown.... cool


Yes that live version is amazing! Prince's screaming blending into Candy's sax solo and his guitar solo--great arrangement. And then Rhonda's bass solo
eek She proves her bonafides in that performance.


nod Actually one of my favorite performances ever by him. All solos are completey amazing and you're right about the screams - mind-blowing. They does not just blend into the guitar solos, he also screams along with some licks later on. You can hear so much agression and even anger in every lick he plays there - no wonder he actually burst a string. And the feedback at the end is the shit.
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Reply #28 posted 05/18/09 4:29pm

rmartin70

The version he did at the Empire Ballroom soundcheck in 2006 was incredible. You know how certain performances stand out, this was definately one for me.
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Reply #29 posted 05/22/09 4:53pm

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Just listened to the Nighttown 2002 version again. Holy mother of God. This IS one of his greatest moments ever. worship x 1 billion.
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